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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Shooting Gallery on Outdoor Channel => Topic started by: ke9xf on June 01, 2008, 08:49:32 AM
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Michael,
One of the things that I don't remember ever seeing is a realistic portrayal of a actual shooting incident. A lot of shooting incidents happen in low light. Taking the viewers thru a simulated actual defensive use of a handgun from the time of the incident including the ringing of the ears, police response,ambulance and news media response and being taken into custody, witnesses, investigation, emotional and legal and financial trepedations and possible outcomes would be a real eye-opener to most people. Explaining each thing that happened and why from the different perspectives would be great !!!
Just my 2 cents worth.
David
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Great Idea! Kinda of a "It happened to me" show. Have the defenders explain exactly what they experienced even if they hopefully didn't have to pull the trigger.
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Michael,
One of the things that I don't remember ever seeing is a realistic portrayal of a actual shooting incident. A lot of shooting incidents happen in low light. Taking the viewers thru a simulated actual defensive use of a handgun from the time of the incident including the ringing of the ears, police response,ambulance and news media response and being taken into custody, witnesses, investigation, emotional and legal and financial trepedations and possible outcomes would be a real eye-opener to most people. Explaining each thing that happened and why from the different perspectives would be great !!!
Just my 2 cents worth.
David
Yes yes....an excellent idea for Best Defense.
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Michael,
One of the things that I don't remember ever seeing is a realistic portrayal of a actual shooting incident. A lot of shooting incidents happen in low light. Taking the viewers thru a simulated actual defensive use of a handgun from the time of the incident including the ringing of the ears, police response,ambulance and news media response and being taken into custody, witnesses, investigation, emotional and legal and financial trepedations and possible outcomes would be a real eye-opener to most people. Explaining each thing that happened and why from the different perspectives would be great !!!
Just my 2 cents worth.
David
Some "what would you do " situations as well, like the one posted by Tyler Durdan to help illustrate that a CC permit is not a badge, but a responsibility.
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There is a lot of surveillance video of shooting out there to replay what went down....what was right, what was wrong and what should have been considered before the event to lessen exposure to danger. It would make a great weekly clip to show one of these videos, recreate a simple stage mockup with boxes representing the scene and replay it showing what was and what should have been.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/29700/another_robbery_gone_bad/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/156456/another_senseless_murder/
Search around....lots more links showing bad things going down. It would be good to analyze real-life successes and failures.
Are we only going to get 13 shows a season for Best Defense and Shooting Gallery.....?????
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There is a lot of surveillance video of shooting out there to replay what went down....what was right, what was wrong and what should have been considered before the event to lessen exposure to danger. It would make a great weekly clip to show one of these videos, recreate a simple stage mockup with boxes representing the scene and replay it showing what was and what should have been.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/29700/another_robbery_gone_bad/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/156456/another_senseless_murder/
Search around....lots more links showing bad things going down. It would be good to analyze real-life successes and failures.
Are we only going to get 13 shows a season for Best Defense and Shooting Gallery.....?????
MORE...MORE...MORE
In both those cases the citizens made MAJOR mistakes, The store clerk should have shot the robber who had the gun, not the one with the money. In the second clip the four men should have concentrated on controlling the GUN not neccesarily the robber, the man shot in the head was unengaged, looking for an opening to punch the robber when his attention should have been on the gun.. Just my opinion, but illustrates the importance of training.
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In both those cases the citizens made MAJOR mistakes, The store clerk should have shot the robber who had the gun, not the one with the money. In the second clip the four men should have concentrated on controlling the GUN not neccesarily the robber, the man shot in the head was unengaged, looking for an opening to punch the robber when his attention should have been on the gun.. Just my opinion, but illustrates the importance of training.
The utter importance of training....absolutely. I always knew I could improve...I never had any idea how much just by watching some of the guests on Shooting Gallery. SG is what pushed me into getting training. Now that I've gotten a family membership at USSA (with training and a training discount!) the family is going to get training. After taking here CCW at USSA, my wife decided she wanted to go to the intro to handgun marksmanship course...on her own...no pushing from me. So, when it cools off a bit she and our 18 and 16 year old are going through the course. After the boys go through the requisites, they have a CQT and Edged Weapons training class they should go through....they'll get to do kewl things like get carjacked, wrestle with gun toting robbers in cars, shoot through windshields, generally learn how to not get killed and "Win The Fight!"
The best thing, none of my boys will get a swagger after this....they just naturally want to avoid overt confrontations and don't want to stand out....but if they ever get to the point of no options....that's what the training is for. Which brings me back to that wonderful idea that ke9xf had that started this....great idea ke9xf. Are you a ham?
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My Christmas wish is for USSA to establish a school here in Florida. All this is awesome!
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I want to add my vote for this IMPORTANT Episode idea.This would be an excellent idea for an episode of best defense.
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When you set up your new show,and for that matter when you pick topics for Shooting Gallery, try to pick products that do not cost a fortune. Not everone can afford a $6,000 race gun. It is nice to see competion matches, but for the most they are out of the realm of regular people. Veiwing matches unless you are into those things, makes people turn to another channel . After haveing been in the retail end of the gun bussiness, I had ten times as many people who wanted a weapon for what-ever reason that was modest in price, and was the most realiable. Perhaps a segment like "This gun was made to last" I know that you can not pitch one make over another, but there should be some way to make it work. Good Luck
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Great idea! Don't know if it'd make a whole series, but an occasional episode or segment.
5 years ago, a bagger at the grocery store where my wife works went nuts and went on a killing rampage with a katana, or some kind of samurai sword. One of the responding officers entered the store with an AR and located the suspect down one of the aisles. When the suspect charged, the officer fired 2 rounds, mortally wounding the attacker.
I was told last week by one of my friends at the department that this officer is now nearly deaf from firing these rounds in the confined grocery aisle.
This came up, because we were discussing how suppressors made a lot of sense in a home defense scenario. My restrictive State of Kalifornia would never allow it, but a common lawful use has been identified by the results of the officer's sacrifice and maybe there's another dumb law that we need to get rid of.
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I was told last week by one of my friends at the department that this officer is now nearly deaf from firing these rounds in the confined grocery aisle.
I did a similar thing a couple months back. My range has an underground 100 yard rifle tube. I was breaking in an AR and doing the one shot - clean - one shot - clean thingy. Well somewhere in that sequence I forget to put my ear muffs back on. Well, one shot and my ears were ringing for a couple of weeks. I can fully imagine in a SD situation in a house at nite having serious consequences to your hearing.
My suggestion for a SG show is on OTHER technology. Hearing protection(see above !), body armor, range technology (SNAIL Systems, target tech etc)would be neat along with lead remediation.