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Title: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Timothy on January 24, 2014, 06:51:02 PM
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Still hanging on to what I have!  Can't replace it...  Me thinks there's some stinkiosity at the gubernatorial level!


Might think about buying the dies to let the kid load me some...
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: 1Buckshot on January 24, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
My two locale stores "small town Montana" have full shelves and there seams to be a fair amount of ammo on the web stores I visit . I'm not sure what's happing at your location, maybe just more hoarders near by.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Majer on January 24, 2014, 07:25:48 PM
Haven't seen much ammo here in ny, and now with the ny(un)safe act mandating that all ammo has to be bought in person at a brick & mortar store and get a background check(on hold because the state police aren't set up for it yet and the FEDS told King andy he can't use the NICS system for ammo) we can't mail order any in,So far it doesn't apply to components so I've been ordering in as much as I can afford to stock up.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: brushmore on January 24, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
Where I am .22lr is still a rare commodity.  Places sell it as fast as they get it in and you have guys waiting around for the truck to bring it in.  Most other ammo can be found with out much of an issue now.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: alfsauve on January 24, 2014, 08:41:02 PM
Just about to submit a 15,000 bullet order to X-treme (free shipping-no sales tax).  I have about enough primers but might have to pick up a 16 more pounds of powder.

I'm sorry, ammo problem?   







With the exception of .22lr which is a problem.



Remember what doesn't kill you will make you stronger.
Except bears.  Bears will kill you.


And the #1 rule...  okay #2 rule:  Never stick your tongue in a toaster.

Words to live by.








Oh. and #1 rule:  Always bring a gun to a gun fight.  With ammo.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: kmitch200 on January 24, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
My local WallyWorld has had 45, 40 and 22lr - 4 box limit on 22lr. 
9mm is still far and few but I just internet order what I need. In free America you can still do that...

Just shot some 9mm Federal HST 147gr+p through the G19 today, along with some Federal 115gr+p+.
No case bulges on any of it.  :) 
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: mkm on January 25, 2014, 07:16:56 AM
Except for 22lr, most things are readily available. There are still times when Walmart looks mostly bare, but they are farting fewer and farther between.

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Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Timothy on January 25, 2014, 07:56:55 AM
Haven't stopped into my local guy yet this month but I've been to four WW's and it's all the same.  We have about thirty WW within half hour drive of where we live and I suspect it's a similar empty case syndrome.

The local GOAL chapter has been suggesting that the governor and AG have something to do with it but who knows...

No mail order in the peoples republic...
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: ellis4538 on January 25, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
My local WW has 9mm and ? (only asked about 9).  Dropped their 3 box limit on 9! 

Richard
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 25, 2014, 12:41:37 PM
Come North old geezer .

Bragging rights to any one who recognizes who and what I'm misquoting .  ;D
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: kmitch200 on January 25, 2014, 12:51:22 PM
Come North old geezer .
Bragging rights to any one who recognizes who and what I'm misquoting .  ;D

Horace is probably rolling in his grave.... ;)
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Timothy on January 25, 2014, 01:17:08 PM
Come North old geezer .

Bragging rights to any one who recognizes who and what I'm misquoting .  ;D

"Massachusetts is not a place to live in.  The rents are high, the food is bad, the dust is disgusting and the morals are deplorable.  Go North, old Geezer, go North and live free or die!"

Modified for the current context....Kmitch beat me too it though.   ;)
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Big Frank on January 25, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Go west young man. - John B. L. Soule.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 26, 2014, 07:38:55 AM
Go west young man. - John B. L. Soule.

Horace Greeley was of course the one I was after, but for others who look at Frank's post and say "Huh ? "

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1086092/John-B-L-Soule

I definitely like Tims version better though .  ;D
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Big Frank on January 26, 2014, 01:28:59 PM
According to a book I have Horace Greeley reprinted Soule's newspaper article to prove that Soule said "Go west young, man, go west.". Frustrated, Greeley spent the rest of his life denying that he said it, but he always gets credit for it.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: ExurbanKevin on January 26, 2014, 03:34:54 PM
It's getting better near me as well.

Still not 2006, but I think those days are long-gone. There's just too many new shooters and too many new guns right now for supply to keep up with demand.

The good news is, I think the ammo companies have an answer to the question of whether this level of demand is the new norm, and that answer is a resounding "YES!", so maybe they'll start making the investments to bring more product to market.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: ellis4538 on January 26, 2014, 04:27:22 PM
Just wondering what the cost of raw materials is doing to the actual cost of ammo....especially .22 so that when I can actually buy .22 I would have some idea if the price is in line with cost to produce(+mark-up naturally).

Richard
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: 1Buckshot on January 26, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
Companies are gouging. I bought new Remington gold at my local gun store two weeks ago for $23.00, "550 rounds". Cabela's sold some federals' "550 rounds" for just under $21.00 last week. They didn't last long. Hopefully people will stop paying the high prices and they will return close to normal.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: Timothy on January 27, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Been doing a bit of recon on reloading supplies.  Turns out that none of the online retailers will ship bullets, cases, powder, primers, etc. to MA.  It ain't illegal, they just won't do it...

I hold no ill will against any of them.  If I looked at the ridiculous laws here, like CA and several other restrictive states, I'd do the same.

 
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: billt on January 28, 2014, 08:07:13 AM
There's just too many new shooters and too many new guns right now for supply to keep up with demand.

This is hurting the reloading market as well. A lot of new shooters who have been sitting on the fence about reloading, have jumped into it. This is causing a severe powder shortage nationwide. 8 pound containers are not available anywhere in the popular makes like CFE-223, Varget, and H-335. You're lucky if you can find 1 pound containers. If you can, they are priced very high, with a limit too boot.

This is not going away anytime soon, because the demand is above the ability of the manufacturers to produce. Far too many new shooters, guns, and reloaders to keep fed with ammo and components. Bruno's by me usually has a large stock of reloading components. They told me not to expect any 8 pound containers of powder until next July at the earliest. This is going to drag out for another year at least. Prices will no doubt remain high.
Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: kmitch200 on January 28, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
This is hurting the reloading market as well. A lot of new shooters who have been sitting on the fence about reloading, have jumped into it.

Possibly a bunch of the "older" shooters that didn't reload because they couldn't justify the start up cost, or put reloading on hold for a while are ramping up as well.

On a side note, my local Wallyworld hasn't engaged in price gouging.
They may not have it, but if they do it's priced pretty normal.   

Title: Re: Ammo (heavy sigh)
Post by: billt on January 28, 2014, 01:26:32 PM
Possibly a bunch of the "older" shooters that didn't reload because they couldn't justify the start up cost, or put reloading on hold for a while are ramping up as well.

Absolutely. That could very well add to the problem.