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Title: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Rastus on June 17, 2008, 06:57:36 AM
Whilst musing on policitical correctness and self-examining it's origins and nature it occurred to me that I have not seen a post on what may drive political correctness.  Could it be self exhaultation?  That is to say, "See, I am a good person because I care." which, translated, means, "I am a better person because I care more than you."

Political correctness seems to have its origins in a competetion amongst emotionally damaged and emotionally needy people who have low self-esteem.  Not entirely, of course, as there are in my estimation another facet of those who use political correctness to gain stature and power from the emotionally damaged.  That political capital is then exploited to support a craving for dictatorial-like power to lord over those of proper discernment and is then shared, vicariously, to those who thrive on and supply political correctness.

Is it praise that an individual seeks when expressing those caring, thoughtful, and intellectually bankrupt statements of political correctness?  Is that praise internalized into perverted self-esteem to fuel fundamentally dishonest and impractical thinking which is being converted into a self-perceived and peer acknowledged controlling power?

Could these be fundamental tenants supporting political correctness? 
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Hazcat on June 17, 2008, 07:04:35 AM
Ken,

I think those that are the 'me too' followers may use it to aggrandize themselves but I also believe those that originated did it solely as another way to control the populace.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: jaybet on June 17, 2008, 07:12:35 AM
It is definitely a control issue...a way to control those with whom you disagree. One rarely finds a politically correct-nik applying the same logic to their own beliefs.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: WatchManUSA on June 17, 2008, 09:51:04 AM
It, (political correctness) was developed at the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt, Germany, which was founded in 1923 and came to be known as the "Frankfurt School." It was a group of thinkers who pulled together to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia.”

“And they believed that the only way for communism to advance was to help (or force, if necessary) Western Civilization to destroy itself. How to do that? Undermine its foundations by chipping away at the rights of those annoying individuals.”

“But Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.”

According to Agustin Blazquez with the collaboration of Jaums Sutton in an article entitled, Political Correctness: The Scourge of Our Times.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/4/121115.shtml

Above in the quote box are some excerpts.

It may not be communism used by the left today, but whatever the motivation, a similar methodology is being used against several of our freedoms including the 2nd Amendment.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 17, 2008, 10:55:28 AM
It's intelectual facism using techniques straight out of Orwells 1984.   >:(
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: DDMac on June 17, 2008, 02:00:31 PM
Guys, I had to stop drinkin' for five hours just to understand all of you. No wonder I was all alone at the fishin' hole all those years. Y'all were in school! Learning!
Excellent analysis. And I just thought it was about layin' a guilt trip on somebody.
Mac.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Hazcat on June 17, 2008, 02:06:54 PM
Yeah, Mac.  Your comments are always so light weight.  ::)
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: ericire12 on June 17, 2008, 02:53:26 PM
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Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Hazcat on June 17, 2008, 03:29:26 PM
There you go trying to apply logic to a liberal!  ;)
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: brosometal on June 18, 2008, 02:32:23 AM
Political correctness is, as mentioned above, is low grade thought control with a dash of self-righteousness tossed in for flavor.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Middle Man on June 22, 2008, 09:59:37 AM
It's intelectual facism using techniques straight out of Orwells 1984.   >:(

Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 22, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

Good point, The ultimate Fascists, Germany's Nazi's, were national SOCIALISTS as opposed to the Soviet Union's INTERNATIONAL socialist movement.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Hazcat on June 22, 2008, 10:21:05 AM
I have always found that those that are so quick to throw those terms around (Fascist, Nazi, Racist, etc.) normally have zero idea of the actual meaning of the words.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 22, 2008, 10:22:17 AM
I have always found that those that are so quick to throw those terms around (Fascist, Nazi, Racist, etc.) normally have zero idea of the actual meaning of the words.

Or they are calling you what they are ashamed to admit that THEY are.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: brosometal on June 22, 2008, 08:45:33 PM
Ironic you mention Fascism and George Orwell.  Whilst conservatives, capitalists, and believers in the free market have be pilloried for the last 40 some odd years as neo-fascist, or plain old fascist take a long look at those on the political and ideological left.  They have admired and espoused fascist ideals and values for twice as many years as they have used it as a politically correct insult.

Here are the cliffs notes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

From the wikipedia article on fascism:

Some have argued that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it has become little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:

...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism))

I, when confonted with the "fascist" label in conversation, ask people to define what they mean.  I have added the Orwell quote above to illustrate what they usually mean, but it is funny seeing a leftist goosestepper fumble for a definition.  Try it.  It's fun to see a lefty squirm.  The vague definition will also go along with the PC heart of this thread. It is much easier to "feel" with the crowd instead of thinking for yourself.  To close with a quote:

What is right is not always easy, and what is easy is not always right.
Title: Re: I Care! (more than you do....)
Post by: Pathfinder on June 22, 2008, 09:04:48 PM
From the wikipedia article on fascism:

Some have argued that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it has become little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:

...the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism))

I, when confonted with the "fascist" label in conversation, ask people to define what they mean.  I have added the Orwell quote above to illustrate what they usually mean, but it is funny seeing a leftist goosestepper fumble for a definition.  Try it.  It's fun to see a lefty squirm.  The vague definition will also go along with the PC heart of this thread. It is much easier to "feel" with the crowd instead of thinking for yourself.  To close with a quote:

What is right is not always easy, and what is easy is not always right.

All too true, it is fun. But most of them have no self-respect or shame. So yes, it is fun to make them squirm, but 2 minutes later they don't remember and will make the same stupid mistake over again. Did I mention they are slow learners too?

Kind of like some of the arguments with certain folks on this site.   >:(