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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: CurrieS103 on June 20, 2008, 10:53:07 AM
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A couple of good videos on how you can get yourself into trouble telling the police the truth. Bottom line: Only talk to your lawyer!
The Law Professor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
The Cop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE
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If you have a serious problem evey one should know that you do not talk to ANYONE for at least 24-72 hours to get your head right. When brought in just say" I want an attorney" Tell the attorney" I'm not ready to discuss this tragic event with any one "This gives you more time to answer the questions that will be asked of you while you have your attorney present and also gives you Moe time to go over every little detail of what happened,if you answer the questions right away while you are still shaken after the events you may miss something or say something that you did not intended and things may become distorted.
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A couple of good videos on how you can get yourself into trouble telling the police the truth. Bottom line: Only talk to your lawyer!
The Law Professor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
The Cop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE
Funny you should bring that up. One of my favorite topics. Covered here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/say-no-to-police-searches-really-part-v/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/say-no-to-police-searches-really-part-v/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/do-not-talk-to-police-really-part-iv/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/do-not-talk-to-police-really-part-iv/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-iii/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-iii/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-ii/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-ii/)
And here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-the-police-really/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-the-police-really/)
I especially like the Martha Stewart Analysis which explains remaining silent MAY be considered an affirmative admission and IS NOT
the same as saying " I prefer not to answer any questions without an attorney present"
Welcome to 21st Century Gulag America, comrade!
Best regards,
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My CCW instructor and SD training pros I've been with and studied all agree. The less you say the better. Brief statement, never say the word "kill". Use words like imminent, fear, threatening, etc,.. Make YOUR statement sound like a LEO and then shut up.
Saying " I shot and killed the bastard " is no good. You need the lingo to be more refined. Prepare for a full blown investigation regardless, and in today's world have a good knowledgeable lawyer.
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A wise man once said, "Lawyers are like assholes."
Did you notice the period at the end of that sentence?
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A wise man once said, "Lawyers are like assholes."
Did you notice the period at the end of that sentence?
Every one has one, No one LIKES them ;D
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What did good ol' William Shakespere say about "kill all the lawyers?"
Everyone hates them, right up until you need one. Than you love to hate them, or hate to love them.
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What did good ol' William Shakespere say about "kill all the lawyers?"
Everyone hates them, right up until you need one. Than you love to hate them, or hate to love them.
No one has any use for a "GOOD" lawyer, when you need one you want the dirtiest nastiest, winningest SOB you can find ;D
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Q: Why do sharks not eat lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy.
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Q: Why do sharks not eat lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy.
Thats not quite true, there was a lawyer bit by a shark a couple years ago in Ca. The lawyer survived with minor injuries. The shark's condition was not reported.
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Watch this "Don't talk to the cops" video and save yourself 20 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL_2lT8DojM&feature=related
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"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the abilty."
Say as little as need, then its name, rank and serial number.
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"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the abilty."
"They call me, Tater Salad."
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If you have a serious problem evey one should know that you do not talk to ANYONE for at least 24-72 hours to get your head right. When brought in just say" I want an attorney" Tell the attorney" I'm not ready to discuss this tragic event with any one "This gives you more time to answer the questions that will be asked of you while you have your attorney present and also gives you Moe time to go over every little detail of what happened,if you answer the questions right away while you are still shaken after the events you may miss something or say something that you did not intended and things may become distorted.
Good advice. My LEO friends say their job is to get a confession as quickly as possible because the prevailing theory is that the more immediate a confession the more truthful and accurate it is. Then they say.... with a whisper...."SHUT UP! Don't talk". The psychology behind that statement is that there are many physiological things going on that impair you and that cause you to show...among other things...exuberance and a feeling of euphoria. It's not good to look happy after you've had to shoot someone. The endorphins have kicked in and there is a lot of chemistry going on in a shooter's body that is not condusive to creating a statement.
Case in point, an older gentleman with a CCW killed a man in self-defense on Riverside Drive here in Tulsa. News reporters got there and he appeared downright "happy" he did the deed...that was the endorphins talking, police know it, but very few others know that and that chemically induced attitude did not endear him to much of the populace when shown on local TV.
Once again...great advice...keep quiet. Name, rank and I'm a victim can I file a complaint? Complaint is kind of a code word that starts people thinking you are the innocent one.
I would not have known about the endorphin thing that screws the innocent had it not been for T-R-A-I-N-I-N-G. Like Mr. Bane says from time to time, and it's sage advice, get training!
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Sam Giancana (Late Chicago mob boss, shared girl friend with JFK )once took a young mobster aside and pointing to a mounted Fish said "You see that fish ? If he kept his mouth shut he never would have got caught." Old Sam was shot to death just before he was supposed to testify before a senate commitee.
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Funny you should bring that up. One of my favorite topics. Covered here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/say-no-to-police-searches-really-part-v/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/say-no-to-police-searches-really-part-v/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/do-not-talk-to-police-really-part-iv/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/do-not-talk-to-police-really-part-iv/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-iii/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-iii/)
Here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-ii/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-police-part-ii/)
And here:
http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-the-police-really/ (http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/do-not-talk-to-the-police-really/)
I especially like the Martha Stewart Analysis which explains remaining silent MAY be considered an affirmative admission and IS NOT
the same as saying " I prefer not to answer any questions without an attorney present"
Welcome to 21st Century Gulag America, comrade!
Best regards,
Thanks
Just sent all links to my DPL (Defensive Pistol League)
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Every one has one, No one LIKES them ;D
Or clean up after them! ;D
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And HEY I resemble the title! >:(
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Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a vulture?
A: The lawyer gets frequent flyer miles.
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Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a skunk found dead on the side of a road?
A: The skunk has skid marks in front of it.
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Q: What is the problem with lawyer jokes?
A: Lawyers don't think they're funny, and everyone else doesn't think they're jokes.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3YpdMxrIXg&NR=1
Its Friday, I couldn't help it, been a long week,..
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Thats not quite true, there was a lawyer bit by a shark a couple years ago in Ca. The lawyer survived with minor injuries. The shark's condition was not reported.
What settlement did the lawyer get out of the shark for inflicting physical and emotional damage? ;D
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What settlement did the lawyer get out of the shark for inflicting physical and emotional damage? ;D
I don't know but I think the shark called the poison control center ;D
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Thanks
Just sent all links to my DPL (Defensive Pistol League)
Always a pleasure to serve in any way possible.
Be sure to peruse the fine selection of many other vowels and consonants posted for your reading enjoyment to include but not be limited to -Sleeping Beauty, The Ballet or Build a Tank for your Youngster.
Best regards,
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Why do lawyers wear neckties?
It keeps the foreskin from rolling up over their faces.
What do lawyers use for birth control?
Their personalities.
Did you know that 98% of lawyers give the rest a bad name?