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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Slamfire on April 17, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
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Got a set of used Crimson Trace laser grips for a J Frame and have been eager to try them out. These were the original 205 series- now they offer 305 and 405 models. Last Saturday was the day we tried them out on 3 different models, a 442, and old bodyguard airweight and a 940 stainless. Two of us took turns with each gun and then exchanged grips and tried another.
Let me tell you- standard loads in an airweight is NOT a comfortable thing- they really hurt after a while. Switching to 9mm in a stainless gun is much more comfortable and extended practice is enjoyable. This is the way to go for proficiency.
If you tell yourself that the sight radius extends from the gun to the target and simply concentrate on keeping the red dot within the aiming black, you can get some great groups. As the session progressed, we were able to mostly keep shots within the 6 inch green aiming area at 25 and then 50 feet. All shots were taken doouble action- with hammer guns the accuracy would be much better. The confidence you build with practice largely erases the conviction that snubbies cannot hit anything. Try it- it will change your thinking !
I am totally sold on this accessory and have bought another set of grips, as sight adjustment is a bother if you have to adjust each time you switch from your carry to your practice piece.
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I have the LG-405's on my 638 bodyguard. I really like them and they are plenty comfortable when shooting standard or +p ammo in my airweight. I have mine sighted in a 21' and can print rounds without using the sights.
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Another thing I forgot to post- when shooting with the dot, it will wobble around and if you try to keep it stationary you will get frustrated. I was taught in highpower rifle shooting to accept the wobble and remember that you are directing a cone of fire which is increasingly larger with distance. You can be a good shot even if the next shot does not go in the same hole. Accept the wobble and concentrate on pausing the squeeze only when the red dot leaves the black.
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Another thing I forgot to post- when shooting with the dot, it will wobble around and if you try to keep it stationary you will get frustrated. I was taught in highpower rifle shooting to accept the wobble and remember that you are directing a cone of fire which is increasingly larger with distance. You can be a good shot even if the next shot does not go in the same hole. Accept the wobble and concentrate on pausing the squeeze only when the red dot leaves the black.
Good advice
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I got CTs for my Kimber Ultra CDP for Chirstmas and I love them. I can keep all 8 rounds on the paper at 50 yards and in the bull at 25.
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I can keep all 8 rounds on the paper at 50 yards and in the bull at 25.
I'd need paper the size of a barn to do that! Good shootin'!
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Heard alot of good about this laser grip, must be good for the price. ;D
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I thought laser sights were a gimic when they showed up in the 80's, although some of the applications on machine guns made some sense for prison guard application. As they have progressed and become smaller and do not effect the overall dimension of the gun, I started getting more tolerable. When I watched the Crimson Trace episode of SG, that did change my mind, I had not considered the tactical applications of being able to lay in the street with the curb as your only cover and put a pistol across your chest and hit accurately without using the sights. Many more applications were shown that night, and now I have a pair of 205's on my S&W 940. I soon will get another few for my 649, and Glock 17.
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I soon will get another few for my 649, and Glock 17.
make sure you follow intructions for your Glock. Alot of customers have been crying about "the adhesive not sticking well and changing the point of impact". To be honest I think it is their trigger control but none of them want to let me shoot thier gun to be sure. "Just fix it with the company" is what I have been getting. I do and then a couple week later the pistol is for sale/trade for a 1911 or other toy. Then someother customer gets a setup cheap and swear it's the best shooting gun ever.
Just saying.
tex
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My dad has a set on his Kimber Ultra Carry, and I have a set on my Ruger MKII. I'm going to get a S&W 649 and put a set of LG405's on it later in the year. They're a great asset to a defense gun.
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I'll say they are expensive, but if you buy them for the right pistol, they are a lifetime investment. I think I will always have a j-frame in my stable, and a 1911, and for sure a glock. Any ct grips I buy can go from pistol to pistol, just a like a premium scope, it hurts once, but no matter how many rifles I buy, the scope can be transferred.
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I'll say they are expensive, but if you buy them for the right pistol, they are a lifetime investment. I think I will always have a j-frame in my stable, and a 1911, and for sure a glock. Any ct grips I buy can go from pistol to pistol, just a like a premium scope, it hurts once, but no matter how many rifles I buy, the scope can be transferred.
Good point m25operator, I think yyou just sold to the salesman. :D
I think a set of 1911's are a must have just for the dryfire pratice never mind the defence purpose.
tex