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Title: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 25, 2014, 02:00:35 PM
The dumb ass offered me a hit from his pipe beer in hand.  Wtf    get off my site now before you are removed.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: jaybet on April 25, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
Hahahahaha!  Guys like that eventually get to thinking everyone else is just like them.
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Post by: tombogan03884 on April 25, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
Ummmm, Aren't you the dumb ass for hiring him in the first place ?
Don't you ask around or check references ?
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 25, 2014, 03:57:31 PM
Ummmm, Aren't you the dumb ass for hiring him in the first place ?
Don't you ask around or check references ?
  sub contractors employee not mine.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: tt11758 on April 25, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
And that, boys and girls, is why they call it 'dope'.    ;D
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Post by: Ping on April 27, 2014, 10:18:50 AM
Hard to believe how many contractors are abusing substances or drinking on the job. I am finding that left and right since I am covering the general contractor spot since being hit by a tornado November 17.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 27, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
Yes it is, every one is always shocked, that I don't drink or smoke.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 28, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
I hate to break it to you boys, but the guys who built the Empire State building used to pay kids to bring them pails of beer.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 28, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
I hate to break it to you boys, but the guys who built the Empire State building used to pay kids to bring them pails of beer.
  yes they did, same as every one until the 70s.  Its real simple, I can not afford to have people intoxicated on my site.  The sheer liabilty is huge, Insurance companys often look for reasons not too pay.

U will not risk every thing I own so you can get your jolleys.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: Timothy on April 28, 2014, 11:22:47 AM
It's the 43 Anniversary of OSHA today! 

Go figure...
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 28, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
Osha is full of shit, don't get me wrong I am all for keep workers dafe, but some of the rule are just a joke.
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Post by: MikeBjerum on April 28, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
  yes they did, same as every one until the 70s.  Its real simple, I can not afford to have people intoxicated on my site.  The sheer liabilty is huge, Insurance companys often look for reasons not too pay.

U will not risk every thing I own so you can get your jolleys.

The sad thing is that it isn't about intoxication.  It was a few bad apples that ruined it for all.  It was abuse that has caused insurance companies to take a zero tolerance stance and ambulance chasers to line up at the testing lab door.

These regulations have gotten so bad that many companies and organizations have adopted zero tolerance.  What does this mean?  It means that our local county snow plow drivers cannot drink at all in the winter.  The blood tests will pull up a single beer from 36 hours prior.  In the summer they can have a beer from the time they get off on Thursday evening until mid afternoon on Saturday (they work four, eleven hour days during the summer months), but nothing, zero, nadda from about four Saturday afternoon on.

My CDL carries a limit of 0.04 for alcohol regardless of what or when I am driving, but if I am driving on the job it had better be 0.00.

The Nanny State took over in the 70's, and we did not notice the boiling water for two decades.
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Post by: kmitch200 on April 28, 2014, 01:35:37 PM
It means that our local county snow plow drivers cannot drink at all in the winter.  The blood tests will pull up a single beer from 36 hours prior.

Ummm......I don't think so. Someone is pulling your leg on this one.

The liver can process approx 0.9 oz of alcohol per hour. (normal functioning liver)
If you have ONE beer, you should be alcohol free, 0.00 in two hours, three if you are a 100# female.

http://adcaps.wsu.edu/alcohol101/blood-alcohol-chart/


 
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: Timothy on April 28, 2014, 01:46:45 PM
Nixon signed OSHA into law.  I was 13 at the time... 
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Post by: MikeBjerum on April 28, 2014, 03:50:32 PM
Ummm......I don't think so. Someone is pulling your leg on this one.

The liver can process approx 0.9 oz of alcohol per hour. (normal functioning liver)
If you have ONE beer, you should be alcohol free, 0.00 in two hours, three if you are a 100# female.

http://adcaps.wsu.edu/alcohol101/blood-alcohol-chart/

Nope!  I have seen the results.  I have never had mine done, but the local union paid for their members to run the test when the rule was put in.  It was a friend of mine who was a part of it.  They did 12, 24, 28, 32, 36 and 40 hours.  Scott, my friend, was 32 hours, and his test came back "Alcohol - Trace"  36 hour subject was smaller than Scott, and came back trace, and the 40 was clean.  The union had expected the 36 to be clean as well, but he wasn't.
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Post by: JC5123 on April 28, 2014, 05:25:33 PM
How much did he have to drink!?!?!?  :o
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Post by: Timothy on April 28, 2014, 05:32:06 PM
I know a lot of engineers who could be some if the most dangerous wingnuts  alive when they're sober! 

Regardless, show up drunk or high and I have no use for you either but, what you do in your own time is not my business.

Party on Wayne and Garth...
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: kmitch200 on April 28, 2014, 06:30:18 PM
How much did he have to drink!?!?!?  :o

^This^ and did they get him treatment for his liver failure?
You're saying they blood tested everyone - STARTING at ZERO - then gave them ONE beer and they hadn't metabolised it in 30 hrs?
Did he OD on tylenol and his cholesterol buster drugs?
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 28, 2014, 09:28:24 PM
How much did he have to drink!?!?!?  :o

One beer per hour over a four hour period.  Timer started at the point the last beer was finished.  That was the standard for all who participated in the blood and urine tests.
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: TAB on April 29, 2014, 12:21:19 AM
I know a lot of engineers who could be some if the most dangerous wingnuts  alive when they're sober! 

Regardless, show up drunk or high and I have no use for you either but, what you do in your own time is not my business.

Party on Wayne and Garth...
   thats just it, after effects and intoxication can last days and even weeks. 
Title: Re: fired a.dumb ass sub today...
Post by: fatbaldguy on April 29, 2014, 03:56:48 PM

My CDL carries a limit of 0.04 for alcohol regardless of what or when I am driving, but if I am driving on the job it had better be 0.00.

Same here.  If even a trace shows up on a random at work.  BuhBye, see ya.  Which of course means I don't drink anymore.