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Title: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: 1776 Rebel on July 14, 2008, 07:02:26 AM
You have just got to love the current New Yorker cover. It actually expresses quite well what a sizable percentage of the voting population really is thinking about these two folks IMHO.

Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: twyacht on July 14, 2008, 07:12:02 AM
Coming from the "left-leaning" New Yorker, this was quite a "racy" cover for them.

With sales for newspapers and mags falling across the country, (except Guns & Ammo, American Handgunner,etc,.. 8))

Was this a "stunt" to promote sales? Or a jab because the New Yorker didn't get the Hildebeast?

Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Hazcat on July 14, 2008, 07:48:14 AM
Answer form team Barrack...

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"The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Sen. Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said.



Though the tuth is ...

...But most readers will see it as tasteless accurate and offensive predictive. And we agree," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said.

Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Ron J on July 14, 2008, 09:39:05 AM
That's a great cover picture!   ;D

What the Obama camp is pissed off about is that the picture of Michele has her with a rifle that has an "illegal" magazine in it.

Wonder how many more left leaning mags/papers are going to comment about Obama's move to the center before they realize he is just doing this for political gain?  Once BHO is elected, that sonofabitch is making a hard left turn. 
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on July 15, 2008, 06:03:54 PM
Obama’s Inexperience Tough to Ignore

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:56 AM

By: Ronald Kessler, NY Times Bestselling Author   

A close look at Barack Obama's career reveals it has been even more mediocre than generally recognized.

Before being elected to the Illinois state Senate, Obama worked as a community organizer and a lawyer in Chicago.

In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.

But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”

“Just because someone writes it, doesn't make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.

Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson's work, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.

“Was [Obama] involved in stuff? Absolutely,” says Robert Ginsburg, an activist who worked with Johnson and Obama on the problem. “But there was stuff happening before him, and after him.”

After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.

Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”

Instead, he said, “I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”

Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.

After going to Harvard Law School, Obama returned to Chicago, where he briefly headed a voter registration drive and then became a lawyer. While Obama’s campaign has touted him as a civil rights lawyer, “Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”

A review of the cases Obama worked on during his brief legal career “shows he played the strong, silent type in court, introducing himself and his client, then stepping aside to let other lawyers do the talking,” the Chicago Sun-Times has reported.

“A search of all the cases in Cook County Circuit Court in which Obama made an appearance since he graduated from Harvard in 1991 shows: zero,” the article said.

Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — a total of 10 cases in his legal career,” the paper said.

If Obama had virtually no impact as either a community organizer or as a lawyer, he was even more invisible in the state Senate and later in the U.S. Senate.

In both bodies, Obama had a reputation for voting “present,” thus avoiding controversial decisions that could be used against him later. In the U.S. Senate, he has missed more than one in five votes.

Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

Contrary to Obama’s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.

In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.

The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.

Look for John McCain to begin exploiting this vulnerability after Labor Day.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: dj454 on July 15, 2008, 06:12:36 PM
+1
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: 1776 Rebel on July 15, 2008, 07:37:11 PM
One more thing. BHO has never had a real job. Never sold anything. Never employed anyone. Never operated a business. So he has no idea what business is about. Get ready.....
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: DDMac on July 16, 2008, 06:38:55 AM
As with Bill Clinton, it does not matter if Obama has horns, a pointed tail and carries a pitchfork, those who yearn to be looked after, with no concern for the moral or actual cost imposed on others,will empower him.
Mac.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Rastus on July 17, 2008, 09:06:46 AM
As with Bill Clinton, it does not matter if Obama has horns, a pointed tail and carries a pitchfork, those who yearn to be looked after, with no concern for the moral or actual cost imposed on others,will empower him.
Mac.
Yup.  He speaks well....err sounds confident....when he has 5 or 6 word sentences and is limited to two or three sentences with a liberal sprinkling of buzzwords that include "change".

I heard some of his speech when off teleprompter and without script.  Total idiot boob.  This is a great lying imposter and 1/2 the public loves him.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: 2HOW on July 17, 2008, 10:52:33 AM
After all he has visited all 57 states,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :o   http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Ron J on July 17, 2008, 10:40:27 PM
As sad as this is, somewhere someone is thinking of Barak … in terms of ballistic tables and range.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: DDMac on July 18, 2008, 05:38:12 AM
Ron, while I'm sure that's true, the most troubling fact to me would be that sufficient numbers of insufficient people are present in the U.S. to elect him in the first place. He isn't the problem, he is only a symptom.
Mac.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: 2HOW on July 18, 2008, 04:20:10 PM
Keep your fingers crossed, hes going to Iraq.  ;D
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 18, 2008, 08:17:42 PM
Keep your fingers crossed, hes going to Iraq.  ;D

First time I've ever been pulling for the sheet heads.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Ron J on July 18, 2008, 08:23:46 PM
Ron, while I'm sure that's true, the most troubling fact to me would be that sufficient numbers of insufficient people are present in the U.S. to elect him in the first place. He isn't the problem, he is only a symptom.
Mac.

Profound and well said. 
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: DDMac on July 19, 2008, 05:41:42 AM
Obama is probably the single safest person (next to Osama) on Earth while visiting the Middle East. If I was on his Secret Service detail, I would be hugging him the whole time. He is THEIR candidate!
Mac.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on July 19, 2008, 08:06:23 AM
In a better world......

Senator Obama would return from this "foreign policy tour" stepping out his plane in full tact gear, 100 lbs extra muscle, HK 417 in his hands, stereo blasting Slayer's Raining Blood and with a puff of a cigar proclaim: "I have a new direction for the war America!"

Media waits with dread.......

"Its time to kick ass and chew bubble gum! .....and I'm all out of gum." (points to those who know the reference)

"Oh and that Constitution thing? I've actually read it! We do have rights after all!"

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That would be a start, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 19, 2008, 11:26:17 AM
Obama is probably the single safest person (next to Osama) on Earth while visiting the Middle East. If I was on his Secret Service detail, I would be hugging him the whole time. He is THEIR candidate!
Mac.

Accidents DO happen. Look at Stonewall Jackson.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: DDMac on July 19, 2008, 04:28:14 PM
Steven Hawking once said, "Oh well.."
Mac.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Rob10ring on July 19, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
I just love going to CNN's politics page and getting bombarded by Obama campaign ads. I don't believe that the Fairness Doctrine should have ever existed and the web would've been outside of its realm, but you'd expect a news source to turn down ads favoring one candidate or another.

Neon, that's funny! I saw They Live in the theater when it came out. Twice. ;D
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on July 24, 2008, 12:22:33 AM
MUDMARINE
******
I am a VHCM member, I spent 12 months in Vietnam (147th CH47-CE) as most of us did.

I am also a disabled veteran; I have been a wheelchair user for 35 years now.

A few months ago I went to listen to Barack Obama at a local college. When he was done with his speech I got in line to ask him a question. When my time came, my question was;

'Senator Obama; I work with disabled veterans throughout the VA Hospital system, what is your plan for our veterans, especially our disabled veterans who use the VA Hospitals for their care. I stated we need mandatory funding for our VA system to ensure the care is available when needed, especially in light of the current situation in Iraq and the numbers of troops who are coming home with severe disabilities.'

He told one of his aide's to get my name, blew me off, did not answer my question and I never heard from him or the aide again.

Is this who we want as our 'Commander in Chief'?

He wouldn't even answer a 'veterans' question, regarding other veterans.

Take it for what it's worth..just thought I'd pass on my experience with Mr. Obama.

Regards,

Gary McDermott
147th ASH Hillclimbers Vung Tau, RVN 68-69
CH 47 CE

If you are wishing for hope and change, you better know what the salesman is selling.
Title: Re: What everyone is REALLY thinking about Obama
Post by: DDMac on July 24, 2008, 06:35:17 AM
Regarding Mr. McDermott's veterans issues question: Obama doesn't know or care. Those are after election "details" to his vision. Veterans are not considered part of his constituency anyway. Reminds me of the Foghorn Leghorn cartoon line, "Don't bother me, boy!".

His recent news video of him amongst the giddy troops at war is misleading. When military personnel are deployed and at war, they are in a mental state that results in attraction to anybody that may be in a position to get them safely home. Their concerns are focused on that moment and tunnel vision interferes with rational consideration of overall consequences. I am STILL grateful to Richard Nixon for getting me off that boat in 1972!

Mac.