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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: fatbaldguy on August 06, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
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In .308. I've looked at AR-10 types, M1-A types, PTR-91 types, and even looked a couple of the Russian AK variants.
I'm ready to 'pull the trigger' on the Ruger SR762. The optic will be a Leupold VX2-R 2-7x33, with the Firedot reticle. I will be changing the butt-stock to something more to my liking later.
Talk me out of it, or re-enforce my selection.
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Or you could buy 2 FN-FALs
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Or you could buy 2 FN-FALs
That's a lot of talking, Haz.
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Deepwater bought one for $700 last year. It is in my safe right now.
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I've had 2 M1As, an inch pattern L1A1, and AR10 (and no longer have any)....make sure there are magazines available for it that are not proprietary...
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I've had 2 M1As, an inch pattern L1A1, and AR10 (and no longer have any)....make sure there are magazines available for it that are not proprietary...
Yep.
It is always the ancillary items that gum up the works.
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I'm with Les. Stick with the AR or M1A because of magazine availability.
Though I went with the FN-FNAR, and I'm paying the price in the cost of mags. I really like the gun though.
Nice choice of optics. I also like the Nikon Monarch line as well.
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I've been putting thought into this and I have downsides to pretty much every one on the market.
Here's the ones I can think of off the top of my head at 7:30 AM.
M-1-A Ejected brass bouncing off your precision, probably expensive, optic, Mag prices
AK pattern, magazine availability and feed problems, (There is a reason 7.62X 39 mags are curved and 7.62X51 aren't )
HK/G3/PTR, Fluted chamber bulges brass making reloading more work and shortening case life, (NOTE, mags are CHEAP though)
FN FAL, Not noted for the type of accuracy you would expect from the others.
AR , If you use a shooting sling the barrel bends, you can allow for it with iron sights, but a scope on the receiver doesn't move with the barrel, Full float tube might eliminate the problem, I don't know. DPMS, or CMMG model lowers let you use other types of Mags, but Armalite uses proprietary mags that at last look cost $70 each
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AR , If you use a shooting sling the barrel bends, you can allow for it with iron sights, but a scope on the receiver doesn't move with the barrel, Full float tube might eliminate the problem, I don't know. DPMS, or CMMG model lowers let you use other types of Mags, but Armalite uses proprietary mags that at last look cost $70 each
You said it yourself: Free float tube. Also, using a loop sling that only "pulls" on the front tube should also help. IMHO, one of the greatest advantages of a DI AR is the ability to float the barrel as well as a bolt gun. I'm assuming the Ruger's gun is a piston model, since their 5.56 is - personally, I would go DI and a free float tube.
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You said it yourself: Free float tube. Also, using a loop sling that only "pulls" on the front tube should also help. IMHO, one of the greatest advantages of a DI AR is the ability to float the barrel as well as a bolt gun. I'm assuming the Ruger's gun is a piston model, since their 5.56 is - personally, I would go DI and a free float tube.
Yep. ^^this^^
My DI 308 may be heavier than hell with it's Kreiger barrel, (it was heavy before) but it shoots like a dream.
Uses DPMS pattern mags cuz that's who made it for Remington. (R25)
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You said it yourself: Free float tube. Also, using a loop sling that only "pulls" on the front tube should also help. IMHO, one of the greatest advantages of a DI AR is the ability to float the barrel as well as a bolt gun. I'm assuming the Ruger's gun is a piston model, since their 5.56 is - personally, I would go DI and a free float tube.
Another option would be the "Monolith" system made by either Ed Brown, or Les Baer, ( It's early, I forget which) but at $7,000+ you better be SURE that's what you want . ;D
They machine the upper receiver and float tube all from one piece of metal.
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I don't know why they have not standardized the magazines for the AR-10, but that is an issue (availability) to consider regardless of the make and model.
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Nobody is showing any love for the SCAR here? I'll be honest, while non traditional this rifle really pulls on my list of wants vs. available funds. I'm sure some have had problems with them, but I have heard mostly only good things.
http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/tactical/scar-series/scar-17/ (http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/tactical/scar-series/scar-17/)
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I shot one of the 5.56 SCARS with a suppressor on one stage at Ft Benning...the "feel" didn't do anything for me, but was only for 10 rounds...I shoot a shorter VietNam era A1 stock on a 16" mid flat top with a 4x32 ACOG with roll over sights.... it does everything I ask of it...
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An inexpensive AR-10 build may be on the way. Palmetto is hinting around again on facebook with screenshots of their lower.
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CMMG lowers and $20 mags
http://www.cmmginc.com/category_s/1848.htm
http://www.cmmginc.com/product_p/mag243-blk.htm
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So palmetto did it. Parts are on sale now. A MSRP of under 200, and SR25 pattern magazines. Decent introductory price on the lowers. Also dont forget to compare the Aero precision prices as well.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-10/psa-pa10-stripped-308-lower-receiver.html (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-10/psa-pa10-stripped-308-lower-receiver.html)
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After waffling, flip-flopping, and changing my mind more times than a woman in a shoe store, the Ruger SR762 is en-route to my gun/toy dealer.
Now, I'm saving for the optic and shopping for metal magazines.
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I would put my DPMS LR-308 up against any other .308 AR weapon. All stock except the trigger.
Not for full time carry, just putting multiple rounds in small holes.