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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on October 09, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
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The Uninvited Ombudsman List:
1- Ebola questions reporters need to ask:
Stop me when I get to a question that makes no sense or you've heard the media ask already:
Why didn't president Obama seek out a broad coalition of troops before sending our soldiers to fight the Ebola virus?
What was Obama's basis for seeking to fight it unilaterally, deploying troops without Congressional approval?
Why exactly did he need an extra 1,000 troops to fight the virus, so soon after the first deployment?
Are Russia or Communist China sending in troops to fight the virus?
Why do you send military troops to fight a virus?
When do our troops come home? Is there a rotation schedule?
Do they have to be quarantined for 21 days when they do come home?
What's the plan for troops who come back and have Ebola?
Has the Veterans Administration been prepared for handling Ebola cases?
Is your confidence in their ability to do so as high as your confidence in the CDC?
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What's the CDC procedure for cleaning vomit off a street where an Ebola patient has vomited?
Is it true a guy in shorts and a t-shirt hosed Ebola vomit into a Dallas sewer?
How long can Ebola virus survive in a Dallas sewer? (wrong question)
Does anyone know how long Ebola virus can survive in a Dallas sewer? (that's rhetorical: the answer is no; Can things living in the sewer transmit the virus?)
If the CDC is so well prepared why did they leave that patient's Ebola-tainted stuff sit for days in his apartment with his family members? Please don't duck this question.
Would it be fair to say that the CDC isn't as prepared as many spokespeople say they are?
Are all American cities as prepared as people say the CDC over in Atlanta, Georgia is?
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The Dallas mayor said on national TV all the people in the apartment complex were communicated with, yet the people there said on national TV no one told them anything, why didn't you question him about that?
Anderson Cooper on CNN said the apartment residents spoke many different languages, who translated for the mayor? Why didn't you ask him?
Why did so many people there sit outside mere feet away, with their kids, as we saw on TV, while the room was hosed out with the doors open and fumes sprayed out? Is this standard CDC procedure? Can we have a copy of those procedures?
The Dallas mayor said the tainted goods were treated with bleach, is bleach effective on the virus?
What treatments are available for Ebola patients, and why haven't you reported on that yet?
What's the actual medical test for Ebola virus?
How long does the test take, and who can conduct the test?
How do you dispose of all the gear that comes in contact with Ebola?
Why can't you get Ebola from someone who is pre-symptomatic?
Does that imply a blood transfusion from, or sex with, a pre-symptomatic person would be fine? Why not?
How many cities have a company that can properly quarantine an apartment complex?
Who issues the permits for that?
How did Dallas find the clean-up company it decided to use? Is there another one in town?
Who would you use in Phoenix (or pick a city)?
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Is measuring a person's temperature with an infrared thermometer, as we see airport staff in Liberia doing on TV, a positive test for Ebola?
If a person has no temperature but carries the virus, is it safe for them to board a flight to the U.S.?
If a person has no temperature does that mean it's safe to have sex with them?
How many people per hundred thousand have a non-Ebola fever (or diarrhea or vomiting) on an average day?
If a person has a fever (or diarrhea or vomiting) is that grounds for isolating them for 21 days? Is that legal?
How did the cameraman for NBC get the disease? Why hasn't this question been answered already? What treatment can he get in the U.S. that he can't get somewhere else?
Tell us about the U.S. patent on the Ebola virus. Why hasn't that been covered already?
How exactly does Ebola kill a person?
How long does it typically take from onset of Ebola symptoms for death to occur?
How long can the virus live in airborne droplets of bodily fluid, like from a sneeze?
Does the Ebola virus die instantaneously in air, or in a nanosecond, microsecond, seconds, and how do you know that?
Why isn't there any supply of the experimental drug ZMapp? Has ZMapp been proven effective?
Tell us about other drugs they're testing and how much supply there is.
How are you authorizing human testing of new drugs without clinical safety trials. Is this legal?
What's happening in Brussels, Belgium, where the first patient landed and changed planes?
Where is the ambulance the patient was transported in, how is that being disinfected?
I could keep asking questions like this but I suspect your patience is wearing thin.
Do you get the idea that reporters aren't asking relevant questions? Why is that? Didn't they go to journalism school? What do they teach them in there? Am I being to cynical for you?
Have a nice day. Namaste.
Alan Korwin
The Uninvited Ombudsman
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Some of the Ebola questions are easy.
With a viscous virus that is spreading it's deadly effects so rapidly and complete, the only way to stop it is with boots on the ground and getting it at it's source.
Everyone knows that.
Anyone who thinks air strikes will be effective in stopping or even slowing down a threat like this is either lying about wanting to stop it or completely ignorant about how these threats progress.
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Well Solus, all the other out breaks have been stopped by keeping people out of the effected area and letting it burn itself out.
Those who don't learn history are condemned to repeat it.
Those of us who DO study history are condemned to watch the dumb asses do it and tell the survivors, "We tried to tell you so".
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actually, I wasn't commenting on the Ebola situation...
The statements I made were directed as a parody to the BO's response to ISIS
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It has been somewhat apparent to many on this board that our dear leader is and has been dedicated to the end of America as the world's super power. In action after action, a one-eyed man with macular degeneration could clearly see the outcome would not be of benefit to this country.
Odamna said going in that he wanted to fundamentally change this country. And he is changing it.
We are to be reduced to just another place on the globe. Our concept of manifest destiny is just an egoists song. Our system of justice is and has been racist. Our Reagan/Bush era employment of nearly 100% of the people who want to work has been laid to waste. Income inequities will not be addressed by providing paths of upward mobility, but rather by redistributing the income earned by those not satisfied to work for minimum wage.
And if a plague like Ebola can hasten our trip to our collective knees, fighting it will be made impossible. We won't close the borders, we won't check people from West Africa, we won't properly quarantine people exhibiting symptoms. And that is exactly what is happening.
In short, we're hosed.
If we assume 100 is the average IQ (and the IQ test was designed so that 100 is average) then basic math tells us a full 1 out of 2 Americans fall on or below that mark and 1 out of 2 fall at or above that mark. Plotting it on a Bell curve, we have equal numbers on both sides of the 100-mark at each level. Smart side equals and balances out the dim side, with a few caveats.
All that is then needed is for a few of the "smart" people to feel guilty about not having enough black friends, or actually buy into the socialist paradise philosophy, or to be simply anti-American and you get a criminal elected to the top job. Twice.
The dim side will almost always vote for the idiot who promises something for nothing. So it has always been.
Ebola is simply another fortuitous arrow in the quiver that will hasten our demise.
Crusader Rabbit
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Three boxes, 2 have been proven failures, that only leaves #3.
If we tolerate it, we don't deserve any better.
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Four boxes, but we are still left with the last one....
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4 ?
Soap box, Ballot box, and Ammo box. I count 3.
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4 ?
Soap box, Ballot box, and Ammo box. I count 3.
Jury Box
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
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OK, Now I see, but it's still a vote.
Actually, the most important vote you get is on a Grand Jury, you can vote that even though the subject is guilty you will not enforce the law. A right only the citizens have regardless of what Obama thinks.
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Look up jury nullification.
Jurors can determine The constitutionality of a given charge against the plaintiff regardless of what the judge has to say about it.
The jury is one of the most powerful tools we can use and should use as citizens of United States!
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Unfortunately judges have held jurors in contempt for instructing other jurors on Jury Nullification.
There is a group that works to have all jurors be fully informed of their power.
Here is their page.
http://fija.org/
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Then that judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred!
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There is some rule somewhere about imparting to fellow jurists knowledge you have pertaining to a particular in a case that the other jurists might not have....don't know what it stems from, but here would be an example.
Say a witness to a shooting, under oath, states what he saw and says he is sure of ever detail.
He says... I saw the defendant deliberately aim his gun at the deceased, cock he hammer and shoot him multiple times, deliberately cocking the hammer each time. I vividly remember this in exact detail.
Well, the weapon use was a Glock 17 and you know it has no hammer to be cocked so you know the witness has perjured himself.
You are forbidden from sharing that knowledge with the other jurors.
All I can figure is that it is considered as "evidence" an thus must be introduced to the jury by the attorneys and that, somehow, they apply what ever logic they find in it to the knowledge of Jury Nullification.
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Judges often refuse to talk about nullification even when the jurors ask.
But the jury has the power. They can refuse to return ANY verdict until he explains it.
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Ya would have thought airplanes from Africa would not be allowed by now
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Wouldn't you ?
They were quick enough to shut down air travel to Israel for no real reason.
Obama is an anti American muslim influenced marxist who has done everything in his power to hurt America.
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Wouldn't you ?
They were quick enough to shut down air travel to Israel for no real reason.
Obama is an anti American muslim influenced marxist who has done everything in his power to hurt America.
Ann Barnhardt is agreeing with you again, Tom.
From her current post:
Q. How could Obama and the Washington regime be so seemingly inept?
A. They AREN’T inept. They WANT what remains of the US to collapse. They WANT to facilitate the reformation of the Caliphate. The WANT to create as many crises as possible, because crises and chaos enable them to grab more power.
http://www.barnhardt.biz/
She also gets into an explanation of some metaphysical topic. Thread drift, but I had to chuckle at her example....
2. Let’s talk about Concupiscible and Irascible Appetites, because understanding what they are and how they get perverted explains a lot.
The Concupiscible Appetite is what makes our souls long after things that are pleasant to the senses (like bacon) and avoid those things that are unpleasant to the senses (like Justin Bieber). So, we LOVE bacon, and when we achieve bacon we experience DELIGHT. When we do not achieve bacon, we experience DESIRE. Contrariwise, we HATE Justin Bieber*, and when being exposed to Justin Bieber is possible but not accomplished, we experience AVERSION, and when we actually do experience the evil of Bieber we feel sadness and sorrow. So that’s how the Concupiscible Appetites work.
(* We don’t actually HATE Justin Bieber, and in fact we must pray for that repellant little jerk-wit, because man, it’s not looking good for him if he wraps his Ferrari around a light pole this afternoon. But you have to admit, the Bacon-Bieber thing was a pretty awesome pedagogical device, huh?)
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Concupiscible Appetites.
I'll be interested in understanding when I manage to get past pronunciation. ;D
(According to my spell check she spelled it wrong, but I think it's just unhappy with the tense.)
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Wouldn't you ?
They were quick enough to shut down air travel to Israel for no real reason.
Obama is an anti American muslim influenced marxist who has done everything in his power to hurt America.
Yep.
The puppet regime haven't been able to topple the nation via economic routes (yet), so I guess they are trying germs and/or the media-fueled panic that is sure to ensue.
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My question is, what is the "one" doing that he's using the ebola "crisis" to avert out attention from?
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Gotta create a panic before election day.
I've already read reports of dem spin-doctors claiming the lack of preparedness for ebola is due to GOP-sponsored cuts to the CDC.
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But Peg, the truth is that the GOP INCREASED funding to the CDC, that's why they had money for this stuff.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/10/15/cdc-nih-cry-over-money-press-ignores-their-waste
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a $702,558 grant for the study of the impact of televisions and gas generators on villages in Vietnam.
$175,587 to the University of Kentucky to study the impact of cocaine on the sex drive of Japanese quail.
$55,382 to study hookah smoking in Jordan.
$592,527 to study why chimpanzees throw objects.
A year ago there were news reports about a $509,840 grant from NIH to pay for a study that will send text messages in “gay lingo” to meth-heads.
- See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/10/15/cdc-nih-cry-over-money-press-ignores-their-waste#sthash.zKaMltlj.dpuf
Based on the plethora of other wasteful research projects NIH spent grant money on, an Ebola vaccine certainly did not appear to be a high priority. Forbes published a sampling of 18 wasteful programs paid for by NIH as of October, 2012. This research ranged from a study on “Massage in Rabbits” (costing taxpayers $386,000) to numerous studies exploring the effects of meditation (costing hundreds of thousands of dollars each).
Forbes also reported that NIH spent $31 million on a decade-long study of an experimental heart therapy, despite “the probability of the study yielding usable – let alone clinically important — results approached zero.”
Finally, here are some examples cited by Eric Boehm at Watchdog.org:
The CDC, for example, was busted in 2007 by Oklahoma Republican U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn’s office for a litany of questionable spending decisions.
... Though the agency spent more than $2.6 billion on grants for HIV and AIDS research over five years, the CDC acknowledged that many of those grants “have no objectives” or were otherwise useless. They kept funding them anyway.
“Many times the answer is to spend more money instead of redirecting the money or eliminating the waste,” Thomas Schatz, president of Citizens Against Government Waste, a nonprofit that tracks poor spending decisions by Congress and the federal bureaucracy, told Watchdog.org this week. “Programs that are completely ineffective might get cut by a few percentage points or something, but the wasteful spending still exists.”
The agency has received more than $3 billion from a new research fund created by the Affordable Care Act, but has spent only $180 million of that bounty on researching dangerous diseases.
Instead, it has budgeted millions of dollars each year for community grants aimed at convincing Americans to make smart choices about their health — essentially, taxpayer-funded advertising telling you to put down that giant soda and eat more salad.
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But the fact is, money is not the current issue.
In fact Mark Zuckerburg of Facebook just donated $25 million for research.
The issue is that the Vaccine they had was only in small quantity for testing, these were used up treating the first 2 missionaries They announced a couple weeks after that that the vaccine had BEGUN FDA trials, that is primarily paperwork that can be done while more vaccine is being made for a testing process that can take more than 2 years.
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Since when does the truth weigh in when dealing with socialist libtards??
You know how a good crisis/panic shouldn't be wasted when it can be used to spin an election or agenda.
And oh yeah.... the Vietnamese folk need those TVs so they can stay caught up on Dancing with the Stars, you know...... and we really do need to know why chimps throw things...just to answer the age-old question of who-flung-poo.
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Saw this today:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ebola-Obama-non-citizens/2014/10/17/id/601450/