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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => The Best Defense on My Outdoor TV => Topic started by: ske1eter on January 07, 2015, 07:55:27 PM
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During the one-handed shooting demonstration, Mike Seeklander mentions that he's shooting the 1911 so his thumb would ride the thumb safety which makes sense because one can keep a firm grip that way. But then he goes to say that he'd still keep the thumb high and "flag" it even on a striker fired gun. This is where personal experience makes me disagree with the assertion.
I used to use the method that Mike recommends in my various range sessions and matches. Recently, I attended a MAG40 class where Mas suggested curling the thumb down (similar to what one might do with a thumb over thumb grip on a revolver) during a one-handed shooting, *not* down and straight as Mike shows on the program. Mas' suggested grip does not leave a gap under the tang on my grip but does allow me to get a firmer one-hand purchase on the gun compared to a straight or flagged thumb.
Just food for thought as sometimes one size doesn't fit all.
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Just food for thought as sometimes one size doesn't fit all.
Plus Plus, Ditto Ditto on that thought.
I haven't really given my one handed grip that much thought. I bet I should after reading this.
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I didn't see the show, and won't, but as I visualize it you are recommending two different strong hand grips based on one or two hand grip. I agree that one size does not fit all, but I would never recommend a different grip between one and two hand grips. Also, I have equal number of 1911 style and striker fire guns, and I have no reason to grip them differently.
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Many techniques work. I tend to roll my thumb downward because I shoot A LOT of revolver, especially cowboy action shooting and ICORE competition. CAS revolver shooting especially is strong-hand only shooting, as the weak hand is operating the gun. It's critical to have a rock steady strong-hand grip on the revolver as it moves from target to target. I've experimented with number of different grips and settled on that strong thumbs downward "fist." I specifically "set" the revolver grip before I start my run.
OTOH, I shoot a high thumb on safety strong hand with any single action semiauto and don't give it a second thought, and I've probably shot striker guns the same way, especially in competition.
There is never one "truth" in shooting. I've sorta had my nose rubbed in that point as I've focused more on precision rifle…my "technique" with the rifle, which worked just super deluxe with an AR under 100 yards, was a hindrance as I moved to longer ranges. "Absorb what is useful; discard what is not; add what is uniquely your own…"
Michael B
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Michael,
I think you go along with what I meant to say. You shoot consistently, and it is more based on what works close to universally than each gun different, even though it is different between models. The most revealing thing you said is that you've "probably" done something.
Enough from me, because at this point I go into rambling that does not translate well on the written page typed screen.
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Enough from me, because at this point I go into rambling that does not translate well on the written page typed screen.
Too many fumes, eh?? ;)
:o
;D
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I use the grip I use on any handgun. Semi, auto, revos...and that all started with shooting revolvers.
(I hate a thumbs forward grip - it isn't for me)
The one thing I want to try is canting the gun a bit to mitigate the recoil of weak hand shooting.
Maybe if I get good enough I can go Full Gansta!
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Examined my one hand grip yesterday when shooting revolvers. The thumb naturally goes low, because there's no support hand to, uh, support it. In fact, my thumb touches my 3rd finger.