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Title: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: graywolf on February 18, 2015, 01:14:04 PM
State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, after coming under fire for suggesting a way to fight the Islamic State and all terrorism is by creating jobs, has an answer for her critics: Her argument is just "too nuanced" for them to understand.

Dear Ms. Harf,
Here are some plausible ideas.  How about creating 40,000 new jobs by building a pipeline,anywhere.  How about hiring ISIL to protect our porous southern border.  How about giving them low interest small business loans so they could go into business for themselves.

My idea:  Ship all the Playstations and X Boxes and monitors we can find and in addition to free cell phones and tablets, distribute these to the so called "hopeless of the Middle East".  Their minds will become so numbed that they won't even consider strapping on a suicide vest or learning how to decapitate or crucify those who have a different religion.  Just my opinion, I could be wrong.  Let's see some more ideas.

P.S. Don't you think Ms. Harf and Ms.Paski are the snarkiest spokespersons you've ever seen? 
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: Solus on February 18, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
They haven't even considered a "Night Basketball" program.  Courts are simple and inexpensive, can be put almost everywhere, and it might turn them around.   

If it saves just one life, it's worth it.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: graywolf on February 18, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
Yes!  We have a person who has some community activism experience who could set up a basketball program and maybe a golf instruction class. 
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 18, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
You're allowing it.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: brushmore on February 18, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
It's amazing how many people forgot about 9/11 and can ignore so much that is going on.  The only reason why these people have the luxury of thinking this way is that for now, the evil is happening to someone else but not to them.  That won't last forever.   
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: Solus on February 18, 2015, 07:26:05 PM
Posted this as a response on another site. 

Condemning Islamic Terrorists will not help, nor will disavowing them. Fighting them and killing them will help some. Exterminating them every time they rise again is the only solution until (and if) Islam makes the changes necessary to become a religion acceptable to a free society and eliminates their breeding ground.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: Timothy on February 18, 2015, 07:46:52 PM
Marie Harf is an elitist twat!

We didn't allow anything!  We were given the State Department twat without consideration...
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 19, 2015, 06:14:00 AM
Didn't allow anything ?
Obama is in the middle of his 2nd term, and the crooked Dem machine that put him there is unchallenged.
The cowardly American public has been allowing that for 80 years. They had been taught their place in 1865.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 20, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Didn't allow anything ?
Obama is in the middle of his 2nd term, and the crooked Dem machine that put him there is unchallenged.
The cowardly American public has been allowing that for 80 years. They had been taught their place in 1865.

Most folks today would miss this........ the point when the Federal gubmint became "over" the people instead of "for and by" the people. Once Washington realized it could exert it's will on such a grand scale, they began gradually using less lube.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 21, 2015, 06:19:46 AM
Most folks today would miss this........ the point when the Federal gubmint became "over" the people instead of "for and by" the people. Once Washington realized it could exert it's will on such a grand scale, they began gradually using less lube.

It's actually pretty easy to prove that Abe Lincoln was just as big a POS as Obama.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: alfsauve on February 21, 2015, 02:48:52 PM
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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, after coming under fire for suggesting a way to fight the Islamic State and all terrorism is by creating jobs, has an answer for her critics: Her argument is just "too nuanced" for them to understand.

She actually believes this and it is because one of the core beliefs of progressives and liberals is that all people are fundamentally good.    If every one is fed, clothed, housed and feels secure then there won't be any crime, war, famine or terror.  Everyone will be happy according to their belief.  While many may not have verbalized it in the way Harf did, if you look behind their proposals you will see this is fundamental foundation of their ideas.

So if these people just had jobs, food, clothing and felt secure from the mean old US all this war stuff would just go away.

Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: graywolf on February 21, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Sounds somewhat like our War on Poverty.  Trillions of dollars have be spent since the mid to late Sixties and we still have millions on government programs that just encourages generational dependency. 
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: mortdooley on February 22, 2015, 07:49:41 AM
Here in Bizarro World you can count on more of the same. Islam is a Theocracy and not a religion,it is an entire way of life and does not tolerate opposing views.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: TAB on February 25, 2015, 09:30:58 PM
Sounds somewhat like our War on Poverty.  Trillions of dollars have be spent since the mid to late Sixties and we still have millions on government programs that just encourages generational dependency.
The best thing they could do would be to cut the bs with being a business owner.  That would create more jobs then anything else.   When it costs you 50% of what you pay your employees on top if what you pay them, its hard to justify hiring new people.

If they just cut that in half it would mean a 25% increase employment.  Or people earning more.   Both of which help.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 26, 2015, 06:20:52 AM
Exactly, the only effective way to fight poverty is to provide jobs to those who want to work and let those who don't starve.
The whole reason churches are tax exempt is because they were responsible for tending those who could not work, charity is their job, not the Govt's.
Another benefit of increased employment is that Govt can charge a lower tax rate to more people and increase what they bring in, lightening the burden by spreading it out over a wider population.
Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: Solus on February 26, 2015, 07:24:44 AM
Politicians have the notion that they have to DO something to make things better.  Like jobs.

Politicians think they need to fund job creation schemes when what they really need to do is clear the obstacles so the market can grow and create all the jobs needed.

Government should get out of the way and keep others out of the way.

Like interstate trade.  The governments job is to facilitate it..mediate between the state to keep it flowing freely, not use that authority to limit and restrict that trade.

Politicians need to realize they are servants of the citizens, not the masters.   

Might even be better if EVERY citizen remembered that too

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

Title: Re: The Inmates are running the Asylum....
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 26, 2015, 08:05:28 AM
Politicians have the notion that they have to DO something to make things better.  Like jobs.

Hey azzhole, you WON the election, your job isn't based on "productivity".


        All America's problems are based on 4 major flaws in the Constitution.
#1 The assumption that offices would be sought by "honorable men of good character" concerned with the best interests of the country.
#2 The assumption that voters would inform themselves and vote for what was best for the country.
#3 Not making the "Property requirement" a specific qualification for voting therefore depriving the producers of their control over the use of their tax dollars and placing control of the nations wealth in the hands of those who do not generate any of it.
#4 Structuring the amendments as a "bill of rights" when it would have been more effective as a bill of obligations.
 (EXAMPLES, The people have the "right" of a Free Press, should be an obligation to be truthful Brian Williams and any anti gunner comes to mind, 2nd Amendment says "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It SHOULD read "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the obligation of the people to keep and bear arms shall be enforced". )

"These United States", were never intended to be a "democracy". Democracy is nothing more than a fancy name for mob rule. Among the first steps of the new Republic, were those suppressing the rabble, reimplementing the property requirement and suppressing movements such as Shay's rebellion in Mass, and the Whiskey rebellion in Va.
Democracy in action has never worked , which is why the ancient Greeks abandoned it in favor of "tyranny".
The Founders knew democracy was a failure which is why they tried to structure a Constitutional Republic where the State had specified Powers and obligations and the people had specific unalienable rights. They knew it would not be perfect, they just tried to screw as few people as possible while benefiting the majority.