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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on August 10, 2008, 09:15:33 AM
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Senator Orders Explanation From NRA About Mole Accusations
By RUSSELL GOLDMAN and LEE COCHRAN
Aug. 8, 2008
A New Jersey senator is asking the National Rifle Association to explain itself in the wake of reports last week that the organization hired a mole to infiltrate a gun-control lobbying group in Pennsylvania.
The NRA has remained silent since reports arose last week that 62-year-old Mary McFate, who...
The NRA has remained silent since reports arose last week that 62-year-old Mary McFate, who portrayed herself as a gun-control activist, might really have been snooping on several nonviolence groups on behalf of the NRA. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat, has asked the NRA to confirm or deny the charge; reveal what she was paid, if anything; disclose the names of any other informants in the gun-control movement; and put a stop to the practice.
(Courtesy Freedom States Alliance/AP Photo)According to the AP, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a Democrat, demanded Thursday that the NRA respond to reports claiming the group paid 62-year-old Mary McFate to spy on nonviolence groups.
According to the Associated Press, in a letter faxed to the Virginia NRA headquarters Thursday, Lautenberg wrote: "Although the NRA and I have certainly had our disagreements over the year, I hope that we can agree that the gun violence prevention debate should be based upon an open and honest exchange of ideas, not on underhanded tactics."
The senator's demand came a week after reports that for more than a decade, McFate worked for gun-control groups, volunteering her time to organize protests, develop policy, lobby politicians and serve on their executive boards.
McFate was, according to Angus McQuilken, a board member at the anti-gun group Freedom States Alliance, on which she also served as "a model of passionate advocacy for our cause."
But according to a report in Mother Jones magazine, McFate was really Mary Lou Sapone, a "research consultant" hired by the National Rifle Association to spy on the very groups who believed she was there to help.
According to Mother Jones, Sapone, operating under her maiden name "McFate," began appearing at anti-gun protests in the 1990s, soon after she had been outed in another case of activist espionage. In 1990 it was revealed that she infiltrated an animal-rights group on behalf of a surgical supply company.
Sapone served on the boards of the Freedom States Alliance and Ceasefire Pennsylvania, and twice ran for a board position at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, ABC News confirmed.
"One of the reasons we have lobbying disclosure rules is so that the public knows who's lobbying the elected – but also so the elected know who's coming before them, and who's really paying them," the president of the Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence, Paul Helmke, told the AP, responding to the allegations of breaking lobbying laws.
The magazine closely connects her to the now-defunct private security firm Beckett Brown International, which earned a reputation for hiring former U.S. intelligence agents and which has been linked to several cases of spying on activist groups, including Greenpeace.
In a 2003 deposition, BBI's former president, Tim Ward, testified that he hired Sapone to work on behalf of the National Rifle Association, according to Mother Jones.
More story and comments at link http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5541490&page=1
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OK they got caught, who honestly believes their the only ones doing this stuff? While possibly true, there isn't a lobbyist group in the country that doesn't have SOMEBODY listening to (part of) the other side. Hell, could explain why the guy in charge of the Brady Center has an FFL.
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Does anyone know if any laws were broken from this?
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Here's an answer they
should can give him: F#$K YOU.
Life's hard. Get a helmet. When you are trying to strip us of our
essential liberties, don't expect us to play fair.
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Here's an answer they should can give him: F#$K YOU.
Life's hard. Get a helmet. When you are trying to strip us of our
essential liberties, don't expect us to play fair.
I think that about sums it up really well. 8)
Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a New Jersey Democrat, has asked the NRA to confirm or deny the charge; reveal what she was paid, if anything; disclose the names of any other informants in the gun-control movement; and put a stop to the practice.
None of your (insert profanity) business! Hey Senator!!
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Life's hard. Get a helmet. When you are trying to strip us of our
essential liberties, don't expect us to play fair.
+100....you got it.
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OK they got caught, who honestly believes their the only ones doing this stuff? While possibly true, there isn't a lobbyist group in the country that doesn't have SOMEBODY listening to (part of) the other side. Hell, could explain why the guy in charge of the Brady Center has an FFL.
Where the hell was Lautenberg when Bloomberg was violating Federal law by sending straw purchase agents around the country?
Answer that, asshole Lautenberg!!!!
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Lautenberg should spell his name LOUTenberg because he is one....what an asshole. The guy is senator for, like a billion years, he's too old to remember which hole to stick his breakfast into, and THIS is what he's concerned about? What a freakin' jackass!
The good news is, he'll probably die soon.
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Man, this is better than the "classic joke" thread. LMAO, seriously!
Swoop
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BAC , We are at condition Bert! 8)
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BAC , We are at condition Bert! 8)
Friend of mine works DHS-CBP and I asked him how many people had that up on thier desk. He said he worked to close to the Director's office and he didn't have much of a sense of humor about it. I told him it would be a great "code word" ploy.
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;D Hey Frankie! Message from Texas - BLOWME
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I'm still waiting to hear if they have found a way to make this illegal. However, you know that they will use this as an excuse to hold a multi-million dollar waste of taxpayer (your's and mine) dollars. The next step will be a law suit against the NRA to recoup the cost of the hearings.
On a less serious note:
What gave her away?
Was it the bulge of her carry gun in her garter or the S&W tatto on her left breats?
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On a less serious note:
What gave her away?
Was it the bulge of her carry gun in her garter or the S&W tatto on her left breats?
I've always been a leg man myself but then again I'm not sure what a breat is. ;D
Hey Meber, want to help on this one? ;)
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Breat... it's the other, other white meat! ;D
Swoop
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I'm a ssa man myself.
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Ok Smart asses!
The next thing I'll hear is that Haz is sueing me for copi-right infringement on my mes-spillins.
Take it from someone that has to look, those teenage tattos on certain parts of the anatomy do not look near as cute past age 60!
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Take it from someone that has to look, those teenage tattos on certain parts of the anatomy do not look near as cute past age 60!
Speshaly if them aint spelt curekly!
Mec.
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I've always been a leg man myself but then again I'm not sure what a breat is. ;D
Might be a cross between a breast and a teat.??????... ;D
Speshaly if them aint spelt curekly!
Mec.
Yeah....those butterflies start turnin' back into caterpillars again...eeewwww... :o
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Might be a cross between a breast and a teat.??????... ;D
Yeah....those butterflies start turnin' back into caterpillars again...eeewwww... :o
"Mommy, grandma scares me.......she's got a buzzard on her back!!!" 8)
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You guys are pathetic... hahahahaha
( Glad I don't have any tattoos)