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Title: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: twyacht on August 12, 2008, 08:30:41 PM
I need to find out the model,caliber,  of these rifles. I have an idea or two, but .308? .338?, 30-06?, 300 Win Mag? Hell, 375 H+H?  Its about 3 1/2 min.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3cJYsey15U&feature=related

These three guys, with bolt actions, really lay it down, and I have had a window of funds to either get a used Sprg. Winchester Model 70, in 30-06 (previous post), or preferably a rifle the guys in the video are using. Ksail already sold me on a Puma, (thanks)!

The guy on the bottom of the first segment speedloads on a mission, plus there coming home.

AS always, I defer to the experts who can recognize a rifle right off.

Thank you.

Tom W.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: m25operator on August 12, 2008, 09:04:20 PM
I believe all 3 rifles are .308 M24 remingtons, with night force scopes and an aftermarket elevation turret that locks. McMillan A3 stocks.

If I could thank them I would, glad they are coming home. Glad they got to get a little laugh time behind the trigger as a last excursion.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 13, 2008, 12:50:12 AM
I believe all 3 rifles are .308 M24 remingtons, with night force scopes and an aftermarket elevation turret that locks. McMillan A3 stocks.

If I could thank them I would, glad they are coming home. Glad they got to get a little laugh time behind the trigger as a last excursion.

Yes, they are Marines, So they are using custom Rem 700's in .308. There is no place to get these but the USMC as they are worked over by the armorers and then by the shooters themselves.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on August 13, 2008, 02:24:57 AM
Every round they fire is handmade as well, just about everything the USMC snipers use is highly customized.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: someguy on August 13, 2008, 07:25:00 AM
If you're interested in looking into something like this (as I was), take a good hard look at the
Remington 700 R5.  They build the M24 you just saw in that video.  Each year, production overruns
from the M24 orders are built on HS Precision stocks (instead of McMillen) and sold as the R5.
Finished in stainless instead of black, but the action and barrel are the same.

I'm nowhere NEAR competent with mine yet, but for reference, see mine pictured in this thread:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2890.0 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2890.0)
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: twyacht on August 13, 2008, 08:16:44 PM
If you're interested in looking into something like this (as I was), take a good hard look at the
Remington 700 R5.  They build the M24 you just saw in that video.  Each year, production overruns
from the M24 orders are built on HS Precision stocks (instead of McMillen) and sold as the R5.
Finished in stainless instead of black, but the action and barrel are the same.

I'm nowhere NEAR competent with mine yet, but for reference, see mine pictured in this thread:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2890.0 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2890.0)

Thank you to everyone. the .308 is right on the mark for me. I know I only have access to "civilian" versions. I was just concerned that the military may have rejected them because something was wrong with it, and now they are available to the "public".

So, knowing my luck, I would end up with one that shot sub-MOA 6 inches off what I'm aiming at type thing...

My Mauser 7.65 x 53 is horseshoe and handgrenade close to a .308, but a modern version has been bumped to the "very short" list.

Thanks again, I'm sure I'll be picking the collective forum for optics, and stocks very soon. 8)
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: someguy on August 16, 2008, 12:27:35 AM
Disclaimer: I'm going off of memory here; I'll have to confirm the following stat next week.

A co-worker of mine used to be an armorer in the Air Force, and was then a door-kicker for the Memphis
police for several years.  He's the one who told me about the R5 in the first place.  He modified one for
a mutual friend (Wes at MSTN, for those keeping track) by pillar-bedding it in a McMillan stock and making
various other tweaks.

The figure of 10" at 1000 yards sticks in my mind, but I'll have to confirm that.  Regardless, that conversation
and the resale value of used R5s at snipershide.com (among others) told me that was the best value for
me - as accurate as many $2500 rifles for $950-in-the-box, and I can always 'upgrade' it later.  I've been
very impressed with it.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: ericire12 on August 16, 2008, 09:39:53 AM
Yes, they are Marines, So they are using custom Rem 700's in .308. There is no place to get these but the USMC as they are worked over by the armorers and then by the shooters themselves.


Tactical Precision Rifles makes some that are darn close:

http://www.tacticalrifles.net/tactical_m40.asp

This is the one I want:
(http://www.tacticalrifles.net/images/M40A1-3_Woodland_Leu_8.5-25Gr.jpg)


The barrel maker that contracts with the USMCs also sells to the public, but I can't for the life of me remember who it is....... but technically you can get a custom job that is about 99% of what the Marine snipers are using.



Here is the M24 sniper weapon system as featured on the Remington Military website:
(http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/images/smallarms/M24_Set.jpg)

http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: twyacht on August 16, 2008, 08:45:08 PM
Thank you ericire12, the box looks like a Big Red Bow would look lovely around that case.

This is the "bug" I have between now and October.

I know .308 are "pricey", as all ammo is now. and a Norinco SKS in 7.62x39, is more "cost effective", but when presented the chance to get a Rem700? I have a weakness for getting a really good one when I can, plus that rifle can be "tweaked"

(I'm still going to look for the Norinco) ;)

Thanks again. to all who took the time to post, I knew you guy's would know the "skinny" on a great rifle.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: someguy on August 16, 2008, 09:30:37 PM
You're welcome.   ;D
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 16, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Thank you ericire12, the box looks like a Big Red Bow would look lovely around that case.

This is the "bug" I have between now and October.

I know .308 are "pricey", as all ammo is now. and a Norinco SKS in 7.62x39, is more "cost effective", but when presented the chance to get a Rem700? I have a weakness for getting a really good one when I can, plus that rifle can be "tweaked"

(I'm still going to look for the Norinco) ;)

Thanks again. to all who took the time to post, I knew you guy's would know the "skinny" on a great rifle.

You will have a hard time finding a Norinco anything, and when you do you will pay through the nose for it. There is a gun store near my house that has some Norinco stuff, AK's for $1500 -1800 and an SKS for $450, Get the European SKS, it's the same gun for $250.
Norinco has been banned from importing to the US for the last 10 years or more because they got caught selling SCUD missiles to North Korea and Syria. Interesting fact, Norinco is a front for the Chinese Army, and many of their factories are "Labor camps" attached to prisons.
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: ericire12 on August 17, 2008, 09:52:21 AM
twyacht,

You can't go wrong with a Rem 700!
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: DesertMarine on August 17, 2008, 09:54:42 AM
Get the Remington. 
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: ericire12 on September 22, 2008, 10:04:55 AM

The barrel maker that contracts with the USMCs also sells to the public, but I can't for the life of me remember who it is....... but technically you can get a custom job that is about 99% of what the Marine snipers are using


Just wanted to come back to this with a little more information.....

I found out that it is Gary Schneider who makes all of the barrels for the USMCs and the M40A3.

Schneider Rifle Barrels
1403 Red Baron
Payson, AZ 85541
Phone: (928) 474-2852
Title: Re: Ode to the Sniper of this generation. Going Home.
Post by: twyacht on September 22, 2008, 05:10:19 PM


Just wanted to come back to this with a little more information.....

I found out that it is Gary Schneider who makes all of the barrels for the USMCs and the M40A3.

Thank you ericire, it has been logged and recorded, in the "Need to know" file.
Awesome!