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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: santahog on January 28, 2016, 02:31:32 PM
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I know many won't take this well, but what I say here speaks for itself..
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Get it loud and clear, before you vote..
I will face the Lord with my vote, and I owe Him an explanation for the votes I cast.
I cannot, and I will not vote for a pro-abortion candidate for office, period.
When you all go over the cliff for Trump, don't come whining to me to support him, just because you did.
I cannot.
Don't get all surprised when the same thing happens that happened when Mitt and McCain ran.
It won't be any different..
(Maybe this time, "somebody else" should "think about it"...) ??? :o
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Okay, fire away.. Just remember who gets screamed at every time the compromise du jour gets offered as the commanded enema..
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No argument from me, Santy!
Some of the same guys touting Trump as the guy this cycle, slammed him during the last cycle.
He's saying all the right things but he's not going to win the presidency. It's still too early to chose any of these people or none of them.
If the Donald can't be confronted by a 5'6" bleach blonde on Fox News, he's not going to do well in any real debate on the issues. Today he's a "Republican", tomorrow? Who knows! He flips and flops like a fresh caught blue fish..
Smack him with a club and kick him back into LI Sound!
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Trump's all about Trump. He has no other principles that I can tell and will sell out at in a heart beat. He's been all over the board on all the issues.
BUT: If it comes down to Trump Vs HRC... I'm not votin' for Hill.
ps HRC said it's about time to have a women in the Whithouse. Bill said he's already had several.
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I'll not vote for a democrat, EVER!
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Trump appears to be an egotistical ass that if he doesn’t get his way will take his ball and go home. The President of The United States cannot do that. I personally do not want a man like that with his hand on the nuclear button and choosing the next couple of Supreme Court justices. He might make some really bad decisions that will affect us poorly for the next century.
On the other hand we KNOW Hill or Bernie WILL make bad decisions.
Once again I will be forced to hold my nose while I vote for someone I really do not want in the office because the powers at hand do not give us a choice that is truly acceptable, accountable, and professional enough to be a good POTUS.
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Don't matter. It's gone to far for one guy to fix it with in the system.
If you are still under the illusion you live in a free country try buying a large capacity toilet tank.
Elections are like crossword puzzles, a way to kill time until the revolution.
As for the "candidates", the only 2 who are not campaigning on what used to be the Dem platform are Trump and Cruz.
Cruz doesn't have the personal wealth to tell the GOP to go to hell, so he is dependent on the establishment for campaign funds .
Trump, with the exception of some of the more violent tactics, is doing, and saying, a lot of the same things I would. He's applying Alinsky's rules in a text book fashion, and will probably get the nomination just based on numbers. The alternative is a split in the party that will give the election to Biden or Bernie, probably Biden.
Saying that Trump can't handle Meghan Kelly is a major over simplification of the situation, and is no where near being accurate, not only is he handling her, he's also milking her for yet more free media exposure.
Trump has the added advantage that he is not beholden to any one for funding.
I like what Trump is saying, but I'm also reading some history about Hitler and I note that he also daid what most wanted to hear.
In the primary I will probably vote for Cruz knowing that if he does win he will be hampered by RINO's and liberals as much or more than Reagan. Come the general election I will vote for Satan himself if he opposes the liberal agenda.
On the Dem side, Hillary is a joke,if she had the support of her own party you would not be seeing all these stories about possible indictment by the dem controlled Justice Department. If it looks like she might actually get the nomination she will get indicted and Biden will "reluctantly" step in "for the good of the country". As it stands now she will be s distant 2nd behind Bernie the open communist.
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If you are still under the illusion you live in a free country try buying a large capacity toilet tank.
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As in the USSR, there are always exceptions. Restaurants don't (at least used to not) have to abide by that. So.. yes, I've just framed us under the boot too.
Any idea if I can legally make a sale to a private individual if I wanted to sell my spare (which I do not want to sell)?
My preference has been Cruz...though I recognize he is a lawyer and I'm not cool with that. Tom blew up Carson on the 2nd Amendment with me....I'm guessing that statement of Carson's was not shown to be disinformation. Now, also recall just because it's important to recognize how things work, the Dems/Media did a job on him back in late November or so. They twisted words and he's fallen back ever since....3 weeks and he was done.
And then Donald. Maybe he'll hire me as Secretary of the Dept. of Energy if oil prices don't go back up $15 or so. So...yeah, I am thinking Trump is going to get this. Hillary is going to get 15 to life. Bernie may win the dimocrud primaries but he's out....maybe a Biden/Mallory ticket evolves...if it does then Bernie will be swept aside for the main vote.
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Confession...
I've been steering way clear of here because I have alot of folks that I think a great deal of, some of which are following Trump over the cliff.
I haven't changed my mind on him. More importantly, Trump hasn't changed his mind about the things he has espoused for as many years as he has had that mouth and ego to trumpet his sense of self-importance.
I cannot vote for Trump, for the same sorts of reasons I haven't been able to vote for so many "compromise/electable" candidates..
The Resurgent has an article that sums it up well enough.
http://theresurgent.com/i-will-not-vote-for-donald-trump-ever/?mc_cid=6253e8c8ad&mc_eid=fca4968db9
I have lines that I will not cross. Abortion, RKBA, are chief among them. Trump has said, and been consistent for years that he opposes all that I hold most dear. I'm not "compromising". Come and get em if it means that much to you. My decisions were made years ago.
I've lost friends over my choices before. I hope this isn't the case again, but it won't be the first time, and I don't suspect it'll be the last..
God bless, (and save us from ourselves!!!)
Joe
PS. I'm not even sure I could stomach Rubio at this point.. Pretty little liar and the face of every mothers son. Squeeze him and he pops out a lie. It's like a Coke machine.. :(
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As much as everyone talks about how strange this election is, it's really not. Yes, Sanders and Trump have stirred the traditional pot, but as far as having someone that I want to vote for, this is no different than any other election. I will not vote for one of these democrats, and the (presumptive) "conservative" candidate is a turd.
When all else fails, I go back to what I know and what I want. All I know is what they say and what their record says about them. All I want is freedom. While Trump is a world class ass, he has some positive track record with 2 A, his family are involved with firearms, and he SAYS he will protect, if not enhance, second amendment freedoms. Bernie, Hilary, Joe, and any other progressive creep the other team comes up with wants to take your guns. I'll vote for the freedom I want because, a. I have nothing else to go on, and b. to not vote is a vote for the democrats.
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Trump is not my first choice, but if he is the eventual nominee I will hold my nose and vote for him, simply because failing to vote at all is tantamount to casting a ballot for whichever socialist the other side nominates.
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TT is right.
But I still am hoping for a better choice for CIC. :o :P
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Some info hitting the web today that the rich Republican establishment (RINO's) who control the party are spinning up Romney if Rubio fails (Rubio's failure is a cinch).
They just don't get it....the RINO's. 2/3's of the Republican vote is clearly anti-establishment.
In their dreams will I vote for Romney.
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I would not buy a used car from the Donald!
He's yet to answer a direct question after months and months of interviews...every time I watch him talk I throw up in my mouth...
Since I'm living in the bluest of blue states, I doubt I'll bother after the primaries. I know some of you are rabid for this asshole but I've been listening to him since I moved east in 82 and he's just not someone who's remotely capable of leading this country. Sadly, I don't see anyone else who's capable either and I put so little stock in what f*@kstick is sitting in the Whitehouse anymore.
Says all the right things and for those that want to blow the entire system up, good luck with that!
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Ive got to say that I'm one of the ones who wants to see the whole thing blow up.
After 75 years of socialist brain washing through schools and media the only real cure is "gotterdamerung".
Let the Muslims, illegals, and ghetto trash destroy each other while the limousine liberals wacth a reenactment of Dresden from their penthouses.
On the other side will be either barbarism or a sadder, but much wiser civilization.
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I'll say this Tom...
My ten day old grand daughter will be able to shoot before she enters school if her Mom, Dad and her grand Pop have anything to say about it!
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I'll say this Tom...
My ten day old grand daughter will be able to shoot before she enters school if her Mom, Dad and her grand Pop have anything to say about it!
Pretty safe to say she will then, the brain washing doesn't start till after they start school.
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Pretty safe to say she will then, the brain washing doesn't start till after they start school.
She won't be attending public school if all goes as planned..
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Even better.
I don't think that well of home schooling, for various minor reasons, but if you can select the school you should.
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Even better.
I don't think that well of home schooling, for various minor reasons, but if you can select the school you should.
Having taught my daughter how to drive, I doubt I could have home schooled her even if I had the credentials. Teaching family is always tough... They're already committing to a planned savings account to allow them private schooling. We'll help as much as we can...
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Homeschooled all three boys from k to 12. One wanted to work...he's working.
One wants to be a preacher and graduated Cum Laude from college and is in seminary now.
The last one wants to be a Petroleum Engineer...he's sophomore now doing well in school with scholarships from a high ACT score.
My wife did the heavy lifting and she is without "credentials" for teaching.
There are curricula for the computer that do the real teaching. My mom was a 30 year teacher and hated that we homeschooled and now is glad we did it. I constantly heard the social interaction thing and it's not the big deal everyone things...it was a smaller part of development than even I thought it would be. The biggest unseen benefit is their resistance to peer pressure and the ability to walk away from a bad situation shaking their head about how dumb their friends or acquaintances are.
Timothy, I hope ya'll get to homeschool the granddaughter.
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Homeschooled all three boys from k to 12. One wanted to work...he's working.
One wants to be a preacher and graduated Cum Laude from college and is in seminary now.
The last one wants to be a Petroleum Engineer...he's sophomore now doing well in school with scholarships from a high ACT score.
My wife did the heavy lifting and she is without "credentials" for teaching.
There are curricula for the computer that do the real teaching. My mom was a 30 year teacher and hated that we homeschooled and now is glad we did it. I constantly heard the social interaction thing and it's not the big deal everyone things...it was a smaller part of development than even I thought it would be. The biggest unseen benefit is their resistance to peer pressure and the ability to walk away from a bad situation shaking their head about how dumb their friends or acquaintances are.
Timothy, I hope ya'll get to homeschool the granddaughter.
Congrats on the success!
Not sure I could do it though. I've never been too patient with those I've instructed.
My last two years in the Navy were at a teaching command. I've always been a very quick study and lose patience when others can't pick things up as fast!
My kids damn smart and so is Dad. They'll figure it out if he can tear himself away from assassinating tree rats out the bathroom window!
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Timothy you can do it. Heck, these days the computer does most of the work anyway with the study guides and outlines handed to you. They have a teacher's help as well.
All you need is a buggy switch to keep the little buggers focused.
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Timothy you can do it. Heck, these days the computer does most of the work anyway with the study guides and outlines handed to you. They have a teacher's help as well.
All you need is a buggy switch to keep the little buggers focused.
There is also that nagging problem of having to work another ten years or more. Might could do the junior high or HS down the road but living past 70 ain't exactly something that's real common in my gene pool...
Maybe... with the new ACA we'll all live past a hunert...right?
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Maybe... with the new ACA we'll all live past a hunert...right?
If you can avoid the death boards. >:(
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my main issue with homeschooling is that I have yet to meet a well adjusted person that was.
they miss a lot of the good and the bad social interaction that happens.
when I was younger, I use to seek out the homeschooled girls... they would do anything for attention and I mean anything.
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Well, for what it is worth, I cast my Primary vote today.....let us see where the chips fall....and considering this is political, by "chips" I mean of the bovine variety and not wood.
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Well, for what it is worth, I cast my Primary vote today.....let us see where the chips fall....and considering this is political, by "chips" I mean of the bovine variety and not wood.
Ditto.... They wouldn't let me vote in both primaries..
So I picked blue instead of pink!
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I think home schooled kids miss more from missing the bad parts of public school. They miss learning how to deal with assholes
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I think home schooled kids miss more from missing the bad parts of public school. They miss learning how to deal with assholes
That's where the training comes in. Think Mozambique drill...oh wait, you didn't mean quite that did you? Maybe we had it good having this nearby: http://noahjags.org/ (http://noahjags.org/)
My youngest did the skeet thing, some basket ball and football. The Mozambique they picked up training for life threats at USSA.
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That's fine for threats, but a tad extreme for annoyances. ;D
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That's fine for threats, but a tad extreme for annoyances. ;D
Who are you and what have you done with Bogan?
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It's an older, more mature, mellower Bogan.
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It's an older, more mature, mellower Bogan.
It's the ammo prices.
It's to expensive to just shoot them in the knees now. ;D
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https://usbacklash.org/new-video-proves-marco-rubio-is-a-liar-actually-did-vote-for-gun-control-as-west-miami-city-commissioner (https://usbacklash.org/new-video-proves-marco-rubio-is-a-liar-actually-did-vote-for-gun-control-as-west-miami-city-commissioner)
Hmmm
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OK, so I decided I was going to wade in here - without having read the entire thread. If you posted something pithy and earth-shaking on pages 2 or 3 of this thread, please let me know and I will go read it! ;)
One other thing - Most of you know my "religious persuasion", so if it's going to bother you when I mention God later in the post, you may want to stop reading and head to the next post. Until I do mention Him, though, you may find what I have to say interesting, or at least mildly entertaining. ::)
First, a note. The American Republic as envisioned by our Founders is dead, and as with the Roman republic, it ain't ever coming back.
I have discussed this election with my wife and older son, and it is shaping up to be a doozy. The establishment republikans (Rove et al.) are absolutely panicked at the prospect of Trump winning the convention and will do almost anything to stop him, even (recently) talking openly about supporting Cruz, which I am sure is one of the signs of the apocalypse! Even conservatives (real or otherwise) are talking about a 3rd party candidate if Trump takes the convention.
Leftoids are either threatening (promising?) to leave the country or openly hoping someone assassinates Trump. Sanders is failing at the polls (the voting types, not the opinion types) although still generating money. His purpose will be to push hitlery farther left - assuming that is possible. Hitlery is riding high, but noises keep coming from the FBI in the background.
Here's my theory. Hitlery will coast toward the convention with a lock on it, only to be whammied by bho and his minions, probably through indictments and maybe even a public arrest. It's pretty clear there is no love lost between bho and the klintoons. This will throw the convention wide open, until ol' loveable uncle Joe (Biden) is proposed as a fill-in for the front runner. You have noticed he has been absolutely silent, right? It may be someone else, but my money is on Joe.
Joe is a (creepy) buffoon and a cypher, but so was bho when he was elected - it's his handlers who matter and my guess is a good number of them, plus the established leftoid-stuffed bureaucracy who run the .gov and who gave bho his talking points will work for Joe.
So much dirt will have been slung on all candidates, and the Republican candidate will be standing there absolutely filthy from the pre-convention battles, and everyone will have a scant 3+ months to try to tarnish the white knight Joe. Plus, the media will go out of their way to protect him. Even Chris Matthews may start having that whole leg tingle thing again! (ew?)
The leftoids will be so giddy at the prospect of having a squeaky clean candidate, someone who is not Bernie, that Joe will be swept into the candidacy on the first vote - with concessions to Sanders of course to keep him committed, or at least quiet. This gives bho his (figurative) third term without having to contend with those pesky laws that say no-third term, gets rid of hitlery and likely Bill who will be included for leverage with hitlery (all of whom bho will pardon on his last day in office - maybe), trumps Sanders, and keeps the White House for the Dems.
OK, so where does God play into this? The Bible clearly predicts a number of things that have happened, are happening, or will happen. Sadly, through my studies, there is no clear reference or allusion (except maybe as one of the 10 nations following the Romans from Daniel) to the USofA, and I have reached the conclusion that that omission is because we as a country, as a force, do not matter in His plans.
Further, Paul's writings in Romans 1:18-32 clearly indicate that when a people rejects God the way we have, He can and will turn his back on us. I won't quote the whole thing (copyrights and all that), but you can read it for yourself here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+1&version=ESV (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+1&version=ESV)
Pay particular attention to the paragraph starting with verse 18, and the following paragraphs that begin "God gave them over to...".
On a purely secular note, we as a country have been dancing along the precipice for some years as the .gov and the powers behind the throne drive us ever closer to the edge, and I for one am tired of it. At this point, I might just see God's hand in this election, since He has clearly given us over to whatever, and it is His will we fail as a nation. To that end, I may just vote for the one who will steer straightest to void and stomp on the accelerator.
I won't survive the coming chaos, but I know my future, and I will be evangelizing to the very end.
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You are wrong about Biden being a cipher.
They call him "Greasy Joe" for a reason.
During his Senate career he was consistently one of the most corrupt in the Senate.
One of his sons became a lawyer solely to service lobbyists dealing with Daddy.
Otherwise I agree with your evaluation of the Dems tactics .
Remember though, since 1857 the only way we've had 2 Dems in a row is if the first one died in office.