Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Teresa Heilevang on August 23, 2008, 07:48:49 AM
Title: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on August 23, 2008, 07:48:49 AM
WASHINGTON - Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate, The Associated Press has learned.
Biden, 65, is a veteran of more than three decades in the Senate, and one of his party's leading experts on foreign policy, an area in which polls indicate Obama needs help in his race against Republican rival John McCain.
The official who spoke did so on condition of anonymity, saying they did not want to pre-empt a text-message announcement the Obama campaign promised for Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on August 23, 2008, 07:53:10 AM
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on August 23, 2008, 08:19:27 AM
I saw this coming a few days ago, and its unfortunate for us because strategically this was one of Obama's better moves, Biden has foreign policy experience as well as everything else the p**** lacks. I'd go so far as to say that Biden will be the true top half of the ticket come November with Obama being nothing more than the "pretty face".
I just hope mrs Clinton doesn't go quietly into the dark night during the convention and turns it into a complete circus.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Marshal Halloway on August 23, 2008, 08:57:29 AM
The McCain campaign on Joe Biden:
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Pathfinder on August 23, 2008, 10:44:18 AM
WASHINGTON - Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate, The Associated Press has learned.
Biden, 65, is a veteran of more than three decades in the Senate, a
So much for "change" we can believe in . . .
Besides, Rush is ecstatic about Biden as the nominee, he is a power in the Senate but apparently is not the brightest bulb in the pack. Biden is a multi-time failed presidential candidate, and is on videotape as saying McCain is the best candidate from the GOP and other comments that will come back to haunt him. He is also clearly being positioned as the anchor on the ticket. Should be quite a show.
Update: OK, I went back and watched the video, there you go, right on the money - the White House is not place for on the job training. How perfect, with b-ho right there too.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: twyacht on August 23, 2008, 12:31:39 PM
So much for "change" we can believe in . . .
+10 Pathfinder!
For all the speeches BHO mentioned "Washington is broken", why not make your VP "A veteran of more than three decades in the very institution you were talking to us common folk about"
Once again, it shows his lack of exp. I would have been more worried if he would have picked that Rep. from Texas, or that young guy from Ind.
That would have shown true "change" against the machine. But the BHO lemmings will cheer, and face defeat (hopefully) in Nov.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: jpr9954 on August 23, 2008, 03:40:28 PM
And lest we forget how contemptuous Biden is of us gun owners:
At about the 30 second mark is where Biden questions the questioner's intelligence and sanity.
Frankly, I couldn't be happier that the Anointed One chose Biden. I figure the Obama campaign will need duct tape to put across his mouth so he doesn't screw it up.
John
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 24, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
At about the 30 second mark is where Biden questions the questioner's intelligence and sanity.
Frankly, I couldn't be happier that the Anointed One chose Biden. I figure the Obama campaign will need duct tape to put across his mouth so he doesn't screw it up.
John
It had better be good duct tape too....... ;)
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: blackwolfe on August 24, 2008, 01:46:04 PM
Tom Bogan, Your yahoo link above comes up not found. I'm curious as to what it was. Is yahoo turning to politics and censorship and won't let us view something that might be harmful to the annointed one?
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 24, 2008, 02:05:21 PM
Tom Bogan, Your yahoo link above comes up not found. I'm curious as to what it was. Is yahoo turning to politics and censorship and won't let us view something that might be harmful to the annointed one?
It was SUPPOSED to be a link to a news story about how the choice of Biden showed a lack of confidence within the Obama campaign. I got it last week so it has probably been sent to an archive somewhere. Sorry for the inconvenience. ???
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: ericire12 on August 24, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
I was estatic when I heard the news of Biden being the VP pick. There are so many good sound bites of him bashing Obama as being an empty suit, how he is dead wrong on Iraq, and how he would be honored to be McCain's VP.
I think this is great for the Republicans. Not only has Biden been caught making racist and bigoted statements in the past, but he has been caught saying them about Obama himself - anyone else remember the whole "He's the first mainstream black candidate who is clean and articulate... Its a storybook."?
As mentioned earlier, the "Change" slogan can be thrown out the window. Biden is a career politician who has literally been in the senate longer then I have been alive (I'm 29). Obama is proving that he is a lock-step democrat who is only saying what he needs to say to get elected.
In addition, Biden brings nothing to the ticket. He will not help him win any new votes, and will certainly not help him win any swing states. He is a loose cannon, and there is a very high likelyhood that he will slip up and say atleast one stupid thing b/t now and election time that the campaign will have to clean up. I think this was a very bad move for Obama. One that shows his lack of judgement and inexperience.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Fatman on August 24, 2008, 05:46:49 PM
I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Obama will actually become the nominee. With all these seemingly stupid maneuvers, he's becoming more and more unelectable. I'm getting a bad feeling this is a set up for another candidate to get the nod at the convention.
Is some 'brave'* soul in Denver going to stand and ask for Hillary instead? Great theater to be had there, wouldn't put it past them.
*planted
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 24, 2008, 06:00:07 PM
Either way it's a losing ticket, the hardcore supporters of one will work against the other, forget party unity ;D And any third choice will be hated by both camps ;D
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 24, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
I heard a couple weeks ago that their plan to restore party unity was putting Hillary's name on the nomination list. They don't expect her to get the delegates, but they didn't want to take anything away from her supporters.
Apparently Mr. Obama isn't the only one in that party that can't go to the can without checking the polls first.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Pathfinder on August 25, 2008, 06:24:50 AM
I heard a couple weeks ago that their plan to restore party unity was putting Hillary's name on the nomination list. They don't expect her to get the delegates, but they didn't want to take anything away from her supporters.
Apparently Mr. Obama isn't the only one in that party that can't go to the can without checking the polls first.
What if . . . .
It's all a ploy for Hitlery to steal the convention? Think about it - would you put it past her and BJ to have been rigging this behind the scenes?
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 25, 2008, 07:53:33 AM
It's all a ploy for Hitlery to steal the convention? Think about it - would you put it past her and BJ to have been rigging this behind the scenes?
Don't feed my paranoia ... it's bad enough without you :'(
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: jaybet on August 25, 2008, 08:51:08 AM
John McCain could blow the whole thing out of the water now by choosing a woman or a black person for VP. Hey....Marshallette for VP! McCain's not going to last a whole term anyway!
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 25, 2008, 02:38:25 PM
John McCain could blow the whole thing out of the water now by choosing a woman or a black person for VP. Hey....Marshallette for VP! McCain's not going to last a whole term anyway!
If not M'ette, how about Colin Powell? That would get'em going. Many say he would have been a good choice. I don't know, though. Anyway, he's too smart to get involved in this mess.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: twyacht on August 25, 2008, 08:08:32 PM
If not M'ette, how about Colin Powell? That would get'em going. Many say he would have been a good choice. I don't know, though. Anyway, he's too smart to get involved in this mess.
Condoleeza Rice's name was thrown out there as well, and I think she would shake the Dems to the core if she was VP'd, but she too is probably too smart for this also.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: Pathfinder on August 25, 2008, 08:15:10 PM
If not M'ette, how about Colin Powell? That would get'em going. Many say he would have been a good choice. I don't know, though. Anyway, he's too smart to get involved in this mess.
The only real problem I see with Colin Powell, other than last I heard he was a democrat, is that he wants to pull out of Iraq.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: jnevis on August 26, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
I think Condi or Powell would throw NObama a curve he wouldn't recover from.
As for pulling out of Iraq, I am to , in about 50 years or so (that's about how long we've been in Germany in significant numbers)
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 26, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
The only real problem I see with Colin Powell, other than last I heard he was a democrat, is that he wants to pull out of Iraq.
Saw McCain on Leno last night and he was talking about VP's. Can't remember which ones, but he mentioned several occasions in the past where Presidential nominees went across party lines for the VP choice. I'll have to check further. 8)
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 27, 2008, 02:23:41 AM
Saw McCain on Leno last night and he was talking about VP's. Can't remember which ones, but he mentioned several occasions in the past where Presidential nominees went across party lines for the VP choice. I'll have to check further. 8)
I don't know about that, but originally the candidate who came in second got the VP job.Can you imagine McCain as Pres. and Obama as vice ?
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: tt11758 on August 27, 2008, 09:31:12 AM
The biggest problem with McCain choosing a dem (or even Lieberman, for that matter) is that it leaves the party without a legacy in 8 years.
And the choice of Lieberman would simply serve to hand the keys to the White House to Barry, I fear.
Title: Re: Joe Biden -Obama VP
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 27, 2008, 03:42:50 PM