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Title: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: lee1000 on April 11, 2016, 10:34:14 PM
Hello everybody, this is my first post here. I listen to Downrange Radio and considerate it and Michael Bane a great resource.

Is it safe to pocket carry a single action (micro 1911) cocked & locked? I currently carry a Glock 26 IWB with a spare mag but would like something more concealable when carrying is frowned upon. From a safety perspective  I would consider myself a fanatic (to quote Tom Gresham) and would feel comfortable with it. I mildly familiar with 1911s as I have one but have only put 300 rounds through it.

The gun I'm thinking about buying is a Sig P938, I'm leaning towards this because of it's excellent single action trigger.

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: TAB on April 11, 2016, 11:33:27 PM
a 1911 is one of the safest pistols on the market.  it takes 3 things for it too go bang.

cocked and locked is perfred way to carry.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: lee1000 on April 12, 2016, 12:04:35 AM
The p938 doesn't have a grip safety though.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: Pathfinder on April 12, 2016, 07:19:45 AM
I carry the P938 every day in an Alien Gear IWB holster. No problem, but I do visually and physically check the safety to ensure it is on whenever I am alone, just to be sure.

Because of the lack of a decocker, the 938 made my trainer a little nervous at first, until I showed him I knew the gun and what I was doing.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: Solus on April 12, 2016, 09:44:50 AM
The p938 doesn't have a grip safety though.

In  his book "Cooper on Handguns", Jeff Cooper recommended pinning the grip safety down.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: jaybet on April 12, 2016, 10:03:19 AM
I believe OP is talking about POCKET CARRY. That's a far cry from IWB.  I've only fondled the P938 in stores but never fired it, so I don't know the gun, but pocket carry would be of some concern. Maybe with a pocket holster that covers the safety?
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 12, 2016, 11:33:55 AM
As long as you use a quality pocket holster and keep other crap out of the pocket, you are fine.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: lee1000 on April 12, 2016, 12:05:25 PM
Thanks guys, I think I'm going to get it.

Any recommendations on a holster?
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 12, 2016, 12:55:50 PM
Quality leather.  I have a local couple who make mine.

Check out Andy L... DAMN OLD AGE!  come on guys, and help me with Andy's contact info
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 12, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
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Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: lee1000 on April 12, 2016, 03:12:43 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: vincewarde on April 12, 2016, 06:11:33 PM
To answer the OP's question, I would feel 100% comfortable under the following conditions:

1) The safety is not overly easy to move to the "off" position.
2) The pistol is carried in a pocket holster that fits well and covers the trigger
3) Nothing else is carried in that pocket.

Whenever my dress does not permit me to carry my SR9c, I carry an LC9s - frequently in a pocket holster.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: lee1000 on April 12, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
To answer the OP's question, I would feel 100% comfortable under the following conditions:

1) The safety is not overly easy to move to the "off" position.
2) The pistol is carried in a pocket holster that fits well and covers the trigger
3) Nothing else is carried in that pocket.

Whenever my dress does not permit me to carry my SR9c, I carry an LC9s - frequently in a pocket holster.

Thanks

Would you say the grip is almost too long with the LC9s for pocket carry? My friend has one and the trigger is amazing. I forgot to ask him if I could put it my pocket to test it out.
Title: Re: Pocket Carrying A Single Action Cocked & Locked
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 13, 2016, 06:06:50 AM
When in doubt DON'T.  If you are asked about shooting your balls off do you want to be stuck saying "Well, it SEEMED like a good idea".