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Title: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on August 30, 2016, 12:26:39 PM

I believe this will make reloading a bit more expensive. Looks
like they are reclassifing smokeless power and "hign explosive" if I read this correctly.
http://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/atf-reclassifies-wetted-nitrocellulose-as-explosive-materials-under-federal-laws/#ixzz4IpB2SZ1F

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: Rastus on August 30, 2016, 04:44:53 PM

Well this sure great on top of everything else going to heck.

https://www.atf.gov/file/106536/download (https://www.atf.gov/file/106536/download)

On the surface it doesn't look like a big deal but it may affect the guys who manufacture powder and that is a big deal.

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: Big Frank on August 30, 2016, 08:00:50 PM

Don't high explosives blow up even when they aren't in a confined space?

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 31, 2016, 06:03:46 AM

This shit is nt law.
It is policyIf you tolerate it you deserve it.

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: nosimij on August 31, 2016, 11:44:03 AM

The intent is to bump the HAZ material fee to the point where it is not cost effective to reload so everyone gets rid if their equipment and then they can take steps to more make ammunition harder to get.  Another of the thousand cuts.

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: alfsauve on August 31, 2016, 08:22:18 PM

Understand this goes all the way down to day to day LEO and concealed carry.

Fire code as well as state DOT codes come into play.  You, or your local LEOs can't just store ammo anymore in any old plain building.  Now both storage and transportation must meet much more highly restrictive levels.   Think of LEOs who are carrying spare "EXPLOSIVE" ammo in the trunk of their car.  Heck what's the regs on carrying "EXPLOSIVES" by anybody in public places?

Of course, state and local governments could exempt LEOs from compliance of such. 

I can see it though, somebody who was shot in the commission of a crime, will sue the LEOs for using excessive force.  Explosives.

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: jaybet on September 01, 2016, 09:02:59 AM

Didn't read the whole thing but it looks like they're already backing off on this...at least for now.

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: ellis4538 on September 01, 2016, 04:50:48 PM

The way I understand it this applies to wet nitrocellulose or whatever it is and the way it is handled.  Doesn't seem to be all that bad and shouldn't influence prices at all.

FWIW


Richard

PS:  I don't have a link but I read it on FB so you know it's true!  LOL

Title: Re: New ATF ruling effect reloading?
Post by: Rastus on September 01, 2016, 08:02:34 PM

I think it will make it harder for gun powder manufacturers to acquire...raising the cost.