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Title: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on January 31, 2017, 04:44:21 PM
As some of you may know, we own a CanAm Spyder Motorcycle (trike with two wheels in front).  Currently I legally carry a Ruger LCP in my coat/pants pocket while riding.  We have the RT which is the touring model with king/queen seats and etc.  Until recently, I have been satisfied with the LCP but with longer and longer trips in mind I have decided to upgrade to my Shield or a Sig 938 or a Glock 26 or similar.  Now comes the unconventional part or you could say out of the box idea.  Michael Bane has mentioned the chest carry (as opposed to shoulder holster carry) for heavy armament in the field.  Any thoughts on this carry mode using suitable holster/harness if I can find someone to make it for me?  I was thinking a nontraditional coat/cover garment with a two way zipper so that I could have it partially unzipped from the bottom in cold weather and a oversize shirt in the warmer weather.  I know some of you ride and I'm pretty sure Michael Bane did so hopefully he can chime in.  The traditional belt holster isn't out of the question but the element of surprise enters in to it also.

TIA

Richard 

 
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: Timothy on January 31, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
How about some cold weather gear with built in internal holsters.

My Carhartt jackets hold my LCR quite nicely!
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on January 31, 2017, 06:38:36 PM
Might  work  for  cold  but  thinking  of  warm  too.  Also  have  to  consider  weight  distribution.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: Timothy on January 31, 2017, 07:19:28 PM
They make light jackets with internal holsters, too.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: TAB on February 01, 2017, 12:43:07 AM
While the chances of you going down on are lower tgen a 2 wheeled bike.   I would not want to land on anything hard like a gun(keys, cell, etc)  its going to kake a bad thing worse.  When I road I kpet everything in the bag, including the gun.  Min was apadded back pack iI lashed to the seat.  That way when I went inside I just grabed it and went inside.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 01, 2017, 06:03:30 AM
No off body carry.
Think access, and concealment Even in August in the desert you can wear a light vest or jacket that will cover a chest or shoulder holster. You are not real likely to need the gun until you stopped then you would be unzipping anyway.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 01, 2017, 08:37:16 AM
While  I  appreciate  the  input,  my  op  questioned  the  use  of  a  chest  carry  holster  rig.  My  thinking  on  this  is  icoe,  presentation  of  a  pistol  from  this  carry  mode  would  be  unexpected  and  somewhat  easier  than  other  options.  Off  body  isn't  an  option.  Also,  although  I  doubt  I  would  ever  get  into  a  running  gun  battle,  I  could,  if  necessary  hit  the  cruise  control  and  make  a  draw  or  my  wife  could  reach  around  and  draw.  Lots  of  "what  if's  here.

Richard 
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 01, 2017, 11:34:28 AM
I carried IWB for my main gun and my BUG in a special-made inside pocket in a custom leather vest.

Something like this (below) under a light jacket, coat, or vest (depending on weather) would work.

http://gunfightersinc.com/products/kenai-chest-holster/

They ain't cheap, but they look like they would do well for what you seek.

(http://b8de56fcc89b9d885238fd59.h4dix7mbx.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_2619.jpg)

ebay might have something less expensive.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: nosimij on February 01, 2017, 11:38:31 AM
Is this not a case for the :"Safe PAcker" that Michele is always talking about.  I do not have one but I recall him talking about using it a lot.  I am sure it is in the Blog and likely the advertisements.  I think the supplier is Outdoor Systems or something similar.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 01, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
Peg,  MB  uses  a rig  similar to  that.  I  think  when  he  goes  hiking.  That  is  exactly  what  I' m  thinking  about. 
nosimij,  the  Safe Packer might  work  in  some  applications  but  it  isn't  exactly  what  I  am  looking  for  for  this  application  and  it  is  "off body" which  I  don't  want.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: mkm on February 01, 2017, 02:39:17 PM
Keeping it in house. Check out this thread. http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=23190.msg285775.msg#285775

We really like the holster.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 01, 2017, 02:55:50 PM
mkm,  again, probably a quality  product  but  not  exactly  what  I'm  looking  for. 

Thanks 
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 01, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
If I still rode, a chest rig like that is what I'd consider as well. It's easy for a belt carried gun to become exposed by the wind, and in some states that is a no-no (not a problem in GA).
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 01, 2017, 06:57:57 PM
Peg,  do  you  remember  who  makes  the  rig  M B talks  about ?  I  was  hoping  to  get  his  input  too.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: mkm on February 01, 2017, 08:00:31 PM
You're welcome. Just for reference, if you compare the one I posted to the previous picture, the bottom of the grip would likely be just above the clip on the belly strap of the backpack. I hope you find what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: Rastus on February 01, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
Shoulder Holster?  Hope you find exactly what you need but.....

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/957528649/galco-miami-classic-2-shoulder-holster-system-right-hand-1911-government-commander-officer-defender-springfield-emp-leather (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/957528649/galco-miami-classic-2-shoulder-holster-system-right-hand-1911-government-commander-officer-defender-springfield-emp-leather)

If need be your wife could access it as well....
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: silverback on February 02, 2017, 04:48:21 AM
Do a search for chest holster rigs.   Kenia,simply rugged, guide  gear about cover all price points materials and variations.  Personally if I was hiking the lighter weight the better. I think the world of simply rugged but the kenia looks very intetesting.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 02, 2017, 08:04:11 AM
Thanks  silverback.  I'm  not  hiking  I'm  ryding  our  motorcycle  so  ease  of  access  is  the  key.

Richard 
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: les snyder on February 02, 2017, 09:36:00 PM
Blackhawk SERPA retention holster on one of their VERSA harness chest rigs
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 02, 2017, 10:57:49 PM
I have been pondering this one and going round and round.  No advice from me to muddy the waters, but a question:. What are the concealment issues, benefits, and concerns with each of your options?
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on February 03, 2017, 08:55:32 AM
PUN INTENDED...  Here is what you need. Why mess with a holster at all....
 ;D ;D :o

"https://youtu.be/Lt2oTlKRaJI"
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: ellis4538 on February 03, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
Mike  Bjerum,  I  pretty  much  spelled  things  out  in  my  posts.  Can't  add  much.

Richard 
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 03, 2017, 10:14:36 AM
Peg,  do  you  remember  who  makes  the  rig  M B talks  about ?  I  was  hoping  to  get  his  input  too.

Might have been Survival Sheath Systems, but I'm not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Unconventional Carry Opinions
Post by: Rastus on July 23, 2017, 07:13:15 AM
Ellis what did you decide on?  It would be interesting to know what the eventual outcome was.