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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Rastus on February 18, 2017, 08:32:59 AM
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June 0000 Zulu June 3rd to 2359 Zulu June 4th is the date for the 2017 Museum Ships Weekend. 0000 Zulu is 7 PM CDT on the Friday of the weekend. It's sponsored by the ham radio club on the USS New Jersey each year http://www.nj2bb.org/museum/ (http://www.nj2bb.org/museum/) .
I thought I'd post this up way early this year so that you guys who are hams or wanna be hams have time to get ready this time....as opposed to not having time last year. So, if you do not have a General ham operator license you have time to study and take the test. In fact...time enough to take the test several times if you don't make it the first time or two.
Or..you can listen in on your SW radio even though most of the contacts do not provide QSL cards. Last year I only made 24 contacts vs. 34 the year before. If you can hear the Museum Ships you will hear most of the ham operators trying to contact them as well...so you could hear me screaming my lungs out trying to get a contact.
Conditions on 20 meters was brutal and most contacts were made on 40 meters versus the 2015 contest when about 30 of my contacts were on 20 meters.
Peg....you said you missed it last year. Now you can mark it on your calendar early enough to not miss it.
Alf, don't know if you got your 20M antenna up in time last time. Also Pathfinder and dipisc you guys were thinking of getting on last year. And Deepwater...did you happen to make any contacts at sea?
PS May 6th there will be a ham special event from the lone existing Titan Missile base left intact after deactivation. It's in Arizona and they use the original antenna for the missile silo.
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NAME TYPE OF SHIP LOCATION CALLSIGN
USS Midway Aircraft Carrier San Diego, CA NI6IW
USS New Jersey Battleship Camden, New Jersey NJ2BB
USS Oklahoma Mast Memorial Battleship Mast Memorial Muskogee, OK WW2OK
SS Col. James M Schoonmaker Bulk Carrier Toledo, OH K8E
**Claud W Somers Chesapeake Bay Skipjack Reedville, VA W4NNK
USS Stewart Destroyer Escort Galveston, TX KK5W
Evelina M Goulart Fishing Schooner Essex, MA W1E
Götz von Mannheim Landing Craft Mannheim, Germany DL0NW
RMS Queen Mary Passenger Ship Long Beach, CA W6RO
**W T Preston Sternwheeler (Snagboat) Anacortes, WA KG7OCP
H. L. Hunley Submarine - Civil War Charleston, SC N4HLH
USS Batfish Submarine Muskogee, OK WW2SUB
USS Nautilus Submarine Groton, CT N1S
USS Silversides Submarine Muskegon, MI N8SUB
HMUb Nordkaparen Submarine Gothenburg, Sweden SL8SUB
USS Cavalla Submarine Galveston, TX KK5W
Novosibirskij Komsomolec (B-396) Submarine 641-B Moscow, Russia RU3AWK
17 ships are signed up early this year including the two new ones marked with asterisks. There were over 100 ships last year and will probably be more than 100 this year as well. You guys who are hams that have technician licenses still have time to get your General ticket and participate.
I'm just sayin'....
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I never knew we had a submarine in Michigan. There's a museum there and you can even sleep overnight in the sub if you want to. It's 155 miles away from me so I could make a day trip out of it if I wanted to but I won't. Still it's nice to know that it's there and veterans get a $2.50 discount. Good luck to the hams on here.
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A few years ago we and some friends from church vacationed together and were staying at a neighbor's condo in PCB Florida. One of the guys and I took a day trip over to Mobile, Alabama to the USS Alabama Battleship Memorial Park.
They have a sub there, the USS Drum, but it was too tight for someone my size and height (I was 70 pounds heavier then) to navigate through, even if my leg would bend like it's supposed to. My friend went through and said about halfway through he started to feel like he was being squeezed.
The USS Alabama is impressive. At 6' 2" tall, even it was tight in spots. I couldn't see as much of it as I would have liked to due to both confines and limited walking distance before my hips start giving me trouble. I toured as much as I could, and would like to go back.
There is also an aviation museum, complete with SR-71 Blackbird (with an additional engine on display).
http://www.ussalabama.com/
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I've never talked with the guys on the USS Alabama but I have tried....it's an "awkward" distance for me plus my antenna nulls out towards them.
Regardless...it's a great ship to visit and I've been in the sub. It is small...I would not like being in a tin can like that. The SR-71 is cool especially the aluminized wheels....though they did not have the extra engine out when I was there last probably 10-12 years ago.
It's on my list again as soon as I make it that way though.
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I'm more curious about the sub in Muskogee Ok. I'm thinking the navigator was not #1in his class.
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I'm more curious about the sub in Muskogee Ok. I'm thinking the navigator was not #1in his class.
But you got to give him an A+ for finding a water route to get there!
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The sub came up the Arkansas River by courtesy of the US Army Corp of Engineers. There is a War Memorial Park there and they have a website: http://warmemorialpark.org/news/ (http://warmemorialpark.org/news/)
They also have a fire control mast from the USS Oklahoma. The mast allows them to operate as a museum ship for the USS Oklahoma.
And the Google aerial view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muskogee+War+Memorial+Park:+Home+of+the+USS+Batfish/@35.7946237,-95.3107919,145m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xb598349524ab6740!8m2!3d35.7937784!4d-95.3105774 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muskogee+War+Memorial+Park:+Home+of+the+USS+Batfish/@35.7946237,-95.3107919,145m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xb598349524ab6740!8m2!3d35.7937784!4d-95.3105774)
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Didn't they run steam boats on the Arkansas river, like the Missouri ?
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Didn't they run steam boats on the Arkansas river, like the Missouri ?
Absolutely...
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There are 5 locks in Oklahoma and 13 in Arkansas to facilitate water based shipments....
http://www.arkansasstripers.com/arkansas-river-locks-and-dams.htm (http://www.arkansasstripers.com/arkansas-river-locks-and-dams.htm)
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Up to 47 ships right now.
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53 ships and 54 days before the start!
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Currently at sea and don't know where I'll be come June. I will try to get on the air this year.
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Currently at sea and don't know where I'll be come June. I will try to get on the air this year.
Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk
Well, let me know. I use http://www.dxsummit.fi/ (http://www.dxsummit.fi/) to find stations I need. The converse to that is someone can type in a callsign for someone posting and find out what frequency they have been operating on and when. So after I make a QSO I'll post in hopes the herd will follow and I can make contact with a new station.
Another good thing is that you can insert the calls you want to monitor for (do not know the limit) and only those calls show up. So, for instance if you wanted to get the USS Savanah nuclear powered cargo ship you'd type in K3SAV or for the USS Nautilus N1S. Then you can also input my call sign, KE5JDJ, or I can input your call sign so that if you're active and have posted (or someone has posted you as a contact) I will see your sign pop up with the GMT, frequency and mode.
Kinda kewl.
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Rastus... your comment about being able to type in a call sign and have the freq appear made me chuckle... 40 or so years ago, it would have been nice to have had desk top computers... we had access to the Crays at Ft Meade, but relied on our own call sign and frequency analysis... and the bad guys changed call signs and freqs pretty regularly... I did, however, have a pretty good antenna at my disposal... gratuitous pic of the AN/FLR-9 at the 6922nd Security Group, Clark AFB, Philippines...and I had really good Morse intercept operators, and the finest Vietnamese and Chinese Mandarin linguist in the world
(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/9th20USASAFS20Compound20197x2021_zpsd1bf5d00.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/9th20USASAFS20Compound20197x2021_zpsd1bf5d00.jpg.html)
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Les you look at what you posted there and it should remind everyone why hams are called amateurs.
I sure wish I had an antenna setup like that. The military pretty much had drifted away from HF because of satellite coms and very nearly discarded MARS but now (for some unforeseen reason, eh?) of late seems to have a renewed interest in HF.
I still like it. 100 watts and a wire takes me around the world and all places continental US.
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Now up to 106 Museum Ships!
SHIPS PARTICIPATING FOR 2017 - 106 Ships
(updated 27 May 2017)
** Ships with asterisks are new to Museum Ships Weekend
Please QSL each ship directly
NAME TYPE OF SHIP LOCATION CALLSIGN
K1USN Watson Museum Braintree, MA K1USN
USS Midway Aircraft Carrier San Diego, CA NI6IW
USS Yorktown Aircraft Carrier Charleston, SC WA4USN
USS Hornet Aircraft Carrier Alameda Point, CA NB6GC
USS Intrepid Aircraft Carrier New York, NY WW2CV
USS Lexington Aircraft Carrier Corpus Christi, TX W5LEX
ST-695 Angels Gate Army Tugboat San Pedro, CA K6AA
USS New Jersey Battleship Camden, New Jersey NJ2BB
USS Alabama (Sat Jun 3 only) Battleship Mobile, AL K4DSR
USS Iowa Battleship San Pedro, CA NI6BB
USS Missouri Battleship Pearl Harbor, HI KH6BB
USS Wisconsin Battleship Norfolk, Virginia N4WIS
USS Massachusetts Battleship Fall River, MA N1EPL (CW) & NE1PL (other modes)
USS North Carolina Battleship Wilmington, NC NI4BK
USS Texas Battleship Houston, Texas NA5DV
USS Oklahoma Mast Memorial Battleship Mast Memorial Muskogee, OK WW2OK
SS Col. James M Schoonmaker Bulk Carrier Toledo, OH K8E
MV Cap San Diego Cargo Ship Hamburg,Germany DL0MFH
Ex MV Dresden Cargo Ship Rostock, Germany DL0MCM
**GK10065 Cargo Freight Ship Danube, near Vienna, Austria OE6XMF/p
**Claud W Somers Chesapeake Bay Skipjack Reedville, VA W4NNK
USCG Ingham CG Cutter Key West, FL NR4DL
USS Potomac CG Cutter/Pres. Yacht Oakland, CA. NE6JP
**CSS Neuse (Sat Jun 3 only) Civil War Ironclad Gunboat Kinston, NC W4OIX
USS Littlerock Cruiser Buffalo, New York W2PE
Aurora Cruiser St. Petersburg, Russia RF1A
USS Olympia Cruiser Philadelphia, PA WA3BAT
USS Indianapolis CA-35 Memorial Cruiser Indianapolis, IN WW2IND
USS The Sullivans Destroyer Buffalo, NY N2HTL
USS Turner Joy Destroyer Bremerton, WA NS7DD
USS Kidd Destroyer Baton Rouge, La W5KID
USS Joseph P Kennedy, Jr Destroyer Fall River, MA NB1CR
USS Cassin Young Destroyer Boston, MA WW2DD
FGS Moelders Destroyer Wilhelmshaven/Germany DL0MFX
USS Edson DD946 Destroyer Bay City, MI W8EDS
USS Orleck Destroyer Lake Charles, LA W5BII
USS Stewart Destroyer Escort Galveston, TX KK5W
USS Slater Destroyer Escort Albany, NY WW2DEM
Evelina M Goulart Fishing Schooner Essex, MA W1E
MV France 1 Frigate(Meteorological survey) La Rochelle, France TM1EJ
SS Grandcamp Memorial (June 4 only) French Liberty Ship Texas City, TX AC0TX
Navio Hospital Gil Eannes Hospital Ship Viana do Castelo, Portugal CS5ARAM
SS Sankt Erik Icebreaker Stockholm, Sweden 8SØHRA
USCGC Mackinaw Icebreaker Mackinaw, MI W8AGB
Kraisin Icebreaker St. Petersburg, Russia R100LK
Götz von Mannheim Landing Craft Mannheim, Germany DL0NW
SS John W Brown Liberty Ship Baltimore, MD K8JWB
SS Jeremiah O'Brien Liberty Ship San Francisco, CA K6JOB
SS High Flyer Memorial (June 3 only) Liberty Ship Texas City, TX AC0TX
LS Ambrose Lightship East River, NY City, NY W2AQ
**LS Westhinder III Lightship Antwerp, Belgium ON9BD/LS
**Borkumriff Lightship Island Borkum, Germany DL0BRF
**Amrumbank /Deutsche Bucht Lightship Emden, Germany DF0MF
LV Elbe l Lightvessel Cuxhaven Germany DL0CUX
LST-393 LST Muskegon, MI N8LST
USS LST-325 LST Evansville, IN WW2LST
**SS Selma Merchant ship WWI (Concrete Hull) Galveston, TX W5MSQ
USS Lucid Minesweeper Stockton, CA N6MSO
USS Hazard Minesweeper Omaha, NE K0USA
KRS 575 “Hans Beimler” Missile Corvette Peenemuende, Germany DL0MFN
National Museum of Pacific War Naval Museum Fredericksburg, TX N5P
Naval Tech'l Museum La SPEZIA Naval Museum A.R.M.I. Italy II1MTN
NSS Savannah Nuclear Merchant Vessel Baltimore, MD K3SAV
Mannheim Paddle Steamer Mannheim, Germany DK0LU
SS Hohentwiel Paddle Steamer Bodensee, Austria OE6XMF/9
RMS Queen Mary Passenger Ship Long Beach, CA W6RO
SS Rotterdam Passenger Ship Port of Rotterdam PI4HAL
**PT-305 Patrol Boat New Orleans, LA WW2NO
SS City of Milwaukee Railroad Car Ferry Manistee, MI KS8B
John T. Essberger (Sun Jun 3 only) Rescue Cruiser Speyer, Germany DK0SP
**Paul Denker Rescue Cruiser Bremen, Germany DL0DBAB
PBR River Patrol Boat College Station, TX W5PBR
PB Niederoesterreich River Patrol Boat Danube/Vienna, Austria OE6XMF/3
Tall Ship Elissa Sailing Barque Galveston Island, TX N5E
MS Seefalke Salvage Tug Bremerhaven,Germany DK0SN
U-5075 Seehund Submarine Quincy, MA. WW2MAN
**W T Preston Sternwheeler (Snagboat) Anacortes, WA W7W
*H. L. Hunley Submarine - Civil War Charleston, SC N4HLH
USS Batfish Submarine Muskogee, OK WW2SUB
USS Nautilus Submarine Groton, CT N1S
USS Silversides Submarine Muskegon, MI N8SUB
HMUb Nordkaparen Submarine Gothenburg, Sweden SL8SUB
USS Cavalla Submarine Galveston, TX KK5W
Novosibirskij Komsomolec (B-396) Submarine 641-B Moscow, Russia RU3AWK
USS Clamagore Submarine Charleston, SC NJ4DU
U-995 Submarine Laboe Germany DL0DMB
USS Cod Submarine Cleveland, OH W8COD
USS Cobia Submarine Manitowoc, Wisconsin NB9QV
USS Razorback Submarine N.Little Rock AR N5R
USS Pampanito Submarine San Francisco, CA NJ6VT
USS Blueback Submarine Portland, OR W7SUB
S-61 Delfin Submarine Torrevieja Spain EH5SUB
USS Dolphin (separate contact) Submarine San Diego, CA NS6OI
Vesikko Submarine Suomenlinna, Helsinki, FINLAND OH2/SUB
**Flore Submarine Lorient, France TM2FLO
HMCS Onondaga Submarine Pointe-au-Père, Quebec VA2GNQ
U9 (Sun Jun 4 only) Submarine Speyer, Germany DK0SP
**Royal Sub R12 Memorial Submarine Memorial Gaeta, Italy II0SOM
K24 (U-461) Submarine Peenemuende, Germany DM3G
U3 Submarine Malmo, Sweden SD7SUB
USS Bowfin Submarine Pearl Harbor, HI KH6SP
USS Drum (Sun-Jun 4 only) Submarine Mobile, Alabama K4DSR
CSS Acadia Survey Vessel Halifax Nova Scotia VE0MMA
**M/V Mississippi Tow Boat Vicksburg, MS K5ZRO
Red Oak Victory Victory Ship Richmond, CA K6YVM
Elettra (Marconi's Traveling Lab) Yacht Pontecchio Marconi, Italy IQ4FE
Approximate Single Sideband Frequencies & Modes
LSB - 3,860 KHz
LSB - 7,260 KHz
USB - 14,260 KHz
USB - 18,160 KHz
USB - 21,360 KHz
USB - 24,960 KHz
USB - 28,360 KHz
USB - 50,160 KHz
Some ships will also be on 3880 KHz - 3885 KHz and 7290 KHz Amplitude Modulation with either their ships original equipment or modern equipment.
While any operating mode can be used in this event and CW and SSB are the dominant modes, we are encouraging all the particpating ships, that have the ability, to fire up their original equipment on
3885 KHz, 3600 & 3625 (in the UK),
3705 (W. Europe),
7290 KHz and 14.286 KHz in the AM mode.
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Les, do you think you can rig me up an antenna system like that? Sure would be nice. Did you guys also transmit on those or just listen?
We're over 100 ships now see above updated list. I'm going to upgrade my antenna setup a little. I plan to build a simple wire oriented more North-South and add some emphasis on the foreign ships. I've missed breaking into the top 10 operators by one or two the last 2 years and I hope to change that.
Besides looking for some of the overseas ships this year, my big focus is to pick up PT-305 in New Orleans. It's a fully restored WWII PT Boat that saw action off the European coast.
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I appreciate the PMs. I've scrapped my original HF antenna idea from last year, but have a new plan.
Will I get it done by 6/2? Hard to say. We're having daily storms and I just don't seem to find the time to get this antenna up.
Here's Hoping.
Do we have a quick reference list of all our call signs?
Alf - W4ADS
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Coax and a 1:1 balun and some junk wire will do it. I have two antennas in the attic...neither with a balun though.
I used 440 Ohm ladder line and cut one for 20M and 15M and the other for 80M and 40M. The 80M needs a tuner to be really useful but no tuner for the other bands. Took about 15 minutes to cut them to size once they were up.
HOWEVER...https://www.dxengineering.com/search/department/antennas/part-type/wire-antennas/product-line/mfj-17754-40-20m-dipole-antennas?autoview=SKU&N=4294953330%2B4294953279&sortby=Default&sortorder=Ascending (https://www.dxengineering.com/search/department/antennas/part-type/wire-antennas/product-line/mfj-17754-40-20m-dipole-antennas?autoview=SKU&N=4294953330%2B4294953279&sortby=Default&sortorder=Ascending) one like this one form DXEngineering will nicely fit the bill. Probably 95+% of my contacts the last couple of years has come from 20M and 40M. Last year 40M was the best 3:1 over 20M.
So...if you put something up a 20M dipole and a 40M dipole will do it.
Ken
KE5JDJ
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Well good news for conditions right now for 20M (14.225-14.350) which is the portion of the 20M band for Ships is looking better for communications. Also up to 106 ships and I'd assume there will be a dozen stragglers getting in between now and Friday evening when this kicks off.
It starts 0000Z June 3, to 2359Z June 4, 2017 which is 7 PM Central this Friday the 2nd through 7PM this Sunday the 4th. A list of "central frequencies" and which mode is used is listed below.
Before I had my ham license and setup I used to listen in each year on my shortwave....
Approximate Single Sideband Frequencies & Modes
LSB - 3,860 KHz
LSB - 7,260 KHz
USB - 14,260 KHz
USB - 18,160 KHz
USB - 21,360 KHz
USB - 24,960 KHz
USB - 28,360 KHz
USB - 50,160 KHz
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Alf I got a Hustler 6BTV vertical antenna in yesterday I'm going to add to the dipoles. They are pretty good and about $200-$220 bucks and handles 6 bands including 30M CW which I do not use. However, it is supposed to edge out the 5BTV which is 5 bands without 30M for around $190. The reason I point this out is because I checked the HRO store in Atlanta...not knowing how far you are from there but it's the right state. Anyway, the Atlanta store is supposed to have 5BTV models in stock but no 6BTV's.
I'm just sayin'... http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-003358 (http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-003358)
Ham Radio Outlet
6071 Buford Hwy NE
Atlanta, GA 30340
+1-770-263-0700
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Alf I got a Hustler 6BTV vertical antenna in yesterday I'm going to add to the dipoles. They are pretty good and about $200-$220 bucks and handles 6 bands including 30M CW which I do not use. However, it is supposed to edge out the 5BTV which is 5 bands without 30M for around $190. The reason I point this out is because I checked the HRO store in Atlanta...not knowing how far you are from there but it's the right state. Anyway, the Atlanta store is supposed to have 5BTV models in stock but no 6BTV's.
I'm just sayin'... http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-003358 (http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-003358)
Ham Radio Outlet
6071 Buford Hwy NE
Atlanta, GA 30340
+1-770-263-0700
You might want to check out DX Engineering. They have some add on's for the hustler antenna that will further improve the performance. When you add the ground plate and add ground radials cut to harmonic lengths for the different bands it turns this into a "super" antenna. They also have a plate you can use that has a tilt feature to easily lower your antenna. Real handy during the SWR adjustment of the different bands. Just my .02.
https://www.dxengineering.com/search?keyword=DXE-RADP-3&SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending
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I'm going to try to be on the air with either a Packtenna mini end-fed, or a new dipole I built from a kit. I live in an HOA so I have to be stealthy with the antenna.
I've used the Packtenna before, pulls in very well - talked with a guy briefly in Pensacola. I use it in an NVIS configuration from my deck to the back fence, so not sure how far it will pull in.
The dipole is a Pacific Antenna kit - you have to wind the coils and cut to fit - for 20 & 40M. Never used it before, will try to get it set up on my north-facing deck using crappie poles to create an M-shaped pattern. I have clamp mounts for the poles so it's not a permanent install, and I'm hoping the fishing poles will hide the fact that I ain't using fishing line but wires! :D
I'm actually just getting my shack set up. I picked up an MFJ pass-through for running the antennas out through the window and still keep the window closed. The pictures online show the pass-through painted, the instructions say its painted, but I got raw wood in mine, so I had to wait for some nice (i.e., not wet) spring Kentucky days to get it primed and finished. That part is done, I need to cut it to fit the window and re-install the steel plates and SO-239s today, and it should be good to go.
I got the pass-through (among other things) at the Dayton Hamvention in Xenia this year - my first time at Hamvention - and I will be back next year for certain!
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I picked up my Hustler from DXEngineering. I got the coax direct connector but not the radial plate...that would have been more $$$'s than I want to spend. I'm going to drop off a few radials or some chickenwire for now. The 6BTV is going to end up with the RV I think.
Get with it Geoff. You are close enough to the east coast action that the NVIS will work real well for you on 40M.
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Thanks, 154, Rastus and Path,
It's not "the antenna", it's mounting it that's the problem. It just hasn't bubbled up in priority of "to-dos" around the house. By the time I was close to mounting the dipole, I changed my mind and sold it and the rotor off. I've got a 20m Vertical and am close to mounting it.
I'll get there. Maybe next year. Maybe next month.
Yes, HRO isn't terribly far. I don't stop in too often, cause they have a bad habit of sucking money out of my pocket.
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Yeah I hear you. Last year I was sabotaged by work and this year sabotaged by my semi-retirement. Hopefully next year I'll get all the antennas up in time however....
This time I am relying on the two sorry attic antennas and one dipole in the front yard. I tune the outside dipole into 20M and 40M. I didn't have the time to put the vertical I bought up nor get the 80M dipole up this year. Only 10 contacts so far....disappointing.
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Well, that was something of a bust!
I managed to pick up 2 broadcasts on 20M - one at 1906UTC from the "mother" ship, NJ2BB. The other was 15 minutes earlier from Rastus' neighborhood, a SUBMARINE IN OKLAHOMA!!!! That was Ian on WW2SUB, the USS Batfish.
No one apparently could hear me, as I called repeatedly for a signal check on multiple frequencies, especially those I heard people talking on. I even tried to hook up with the New Jersey in Philadelphia by callsign rather than just a CQ. NO-GO with any of it.
I definitely have to get my antenna working better. Part of the problem is that I crashed into bed the last 2 days with the onset of a summer cold so I wasn't able to set everything up properly. As a result I was using the random wire end-fed with a tuner (NVIS) instead of the 20/40M dipole I hoped to use.
I am impressed that I picked up the transmissions from WW2SUB, as that is about 725 miles away, a bit farther than I thought an NVIS could go.
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20M has been good at that range. I talked to the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge and the USS Orleck in Lake Charles. That close...around 500-550 miles is a bit short for 20M coms during the day in my brief experience. Last night on 20M spoke to a guy in the Cook Islands that was crystal clear at 5,500 miles a way.
I had to disconnect for some thunderstorms in the area but I'm going to fire it up again pretty quick.
I heard some guy in Kentucky talking that came in real clear....
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I read the list of ships, it's the only thing in this whole thread that I actually understand. ;D
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We'll be happy to help you with that. You aren't the only one here. We'll be happy to help you with that to help unravel the "code" talk we have going on.
:)