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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on April 08, 2017, 01:03:14 PM
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John Moses Browning gets far more credit than he deserves .
There where many other designers as, or more , prolific than he was .
Krnka, the Shmiesser's, father and son, and Mannlicher for a few.
Where JMB scored was in the engineers who took his prototypes and turned them into marketable products.
Andreas Shwartzlose built a pistol in 1898 that could have been every bit as good and eternal as the 1911 but the engineers failed to turn it into a product that could be inexpensively built so it fizzled.
The same thing is really true of the Luger. Stoeger tried to reintroduce it but it could not be built cheaply enough to be competitive angainst 2nd and 3rd generation designs.
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You, sir, are one competent crap-stirrer of the first order.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
JMB!!!!!!
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It's something Ian brought up on "Forgotten Weapons" in the last Q&A session.
JMB would bring in a prototype of a gun then company engineers would take it and simplify the design for mass production and build tooling to enable machining at a reasonable price.
Those were the people who made possible things like the pocket 1903 and the turned the rather flawed model of 1900 into the trials winning design adopted in 1911 .
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TAKE IT BACK!!!
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This is how it works Tom. It isn't about just having a good or the best idea or design. It is about moving it through from a brain fart to actual use. When I was in high school, vo-tech, college, and in continuing ed classes, I constantly learned of ideas with great potential that did not make it to the end, because of under capitalization, lack of PR, or choosing the wrong engineers, manufacturers, or promotion people.
Right Item, at the right Time, in the right Place = label as Best.
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There are a lot of ideas whose original inventor couldn't get traction on the product. Later another inventor, or someone reusing the original idea, is able to get traction and have the idea go viral.
I tend to think of JMB more in light of the M2, the Woodsman and the Hi-Power.
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One place says the M2 .50 cal. machine gun was developed by John M. Browning at the request of the U.S. Army, and another place says it was developed under his supervision. Whichever is right JMB was still responsible for it.
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JMB is actually a Glock fan ;D ;D
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JMB is actually a Glock fan ;D ;D
Now THAT'S blasphemy. :o
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One place says the M2 .50 cal. machine gun was developed by John M. Browning at the request of the U.S. Army, and another place says it was developed under his supervision. Whichever is right JMB was still responsible for it.
Yes he developed the M 2 at the Army's request.
He developed it from his own smaller .30 machine gun which was basicly the same gun only smaller.
JMB is actually a Glock fan ;D ;D
BURN HIM AT THE STAKE ! ;D
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BURN HIM AT THE STAKE ! ;D
I'll get the matches!!
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Talk like that will get you a lump of coal at Christmas.
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JMB is actually a Glock fan ;D ;D
Now you went and had to say that didn't ya!
Let the storm begin!
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JMB is actually a Glock fan ;D ;D
That's ugly. Just plain ugly.
You didn't have to do that.
I bet you hugged your mama with those nasty ass fingers you typed that with. Shame, shame.
Go wash them with bleach and lye soap.
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Talk like that will get you a lump of coal at Christmas.
Considering fuel prices that's not a bad thing. ;D
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For Tom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQYep23-onw