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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on November 01, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
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She went away in chrome bracelets, restraining order in place and complaints sent too the state bar.
Man Or does not mess around, it would have taken a year or more in ca, the cops called and got the emergency tro while ahe was in the back of the cruiser, 3 felony counts.... best part she moved here from ca last year... she got a real eye opening exp yesterday. Ps I am fine, I had my delta on my hip, but it never came out. Been having issues with this bitch over a property line dispute for a year now, all over 6" so she can park her car... you would think a lawyer would know. Better. Funny thing, if she had asked nicely, I would have happily let her pore her drive way 6" over my property line... instead there is a t post and ww fence with roses growing there....
Ps this will be lawyer #3 I have had disbarred/suspended.
Moral of the story, just becuase I work with my hands does not mean I am not fully versed in the law, just about every lawyer I have delt with over the years always says I should be come one... I have too be able too sleep at night.
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Tab, you gotta give us more details! ;D
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Well, I heard they are thinking of using lawyers instead of lab rats in testing..they give 3 reasons.
1. There are so many of them
2. The lab assistants won't become "attached" to them.
3. There are some things a rat won't do.
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Tab, you gotta give us more details! ;D
Indeed.
Well, I heard they are thinking of using lawyers instead of lab rats in testing..they give 3 reasons.
1. There are so many of them
2. The lab assistants won't become "attached" to them.
3. There are some things a rat won't do.
What do lawyers use as contraceptives?
Their personalities.
What does a lawyer and a sperm have in common?
Both have about a one in 3 million chance of becoming a human being.
What's the difference between a porcupine and two lawyers in a Porsche?
With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside!
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Why do lawyers wear a tie while in court?
If they take it off, their foreskin pops up and they can't see.
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Why do lawyers wear a tie while in court?
If they take it off, their foreskin pops up and they can't see.
:) I never heard that one before.
TAB you lost me at ww fence but I got the rest. White washed? Anyway, good for you. Idiot neighbors need to be put in their place occasionally.
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Good for you Tab! 8)
There's a dead skunk on the side of the road and a dead lawyer on the other side.
What's the difference?
There are skid marks in front of the skunk.
Q: What's the difference between a vacuum cleaner and a lawyer on a motorcycle?
A: The vacuum cleaner has the dirt bag on the inside.
Q: Why do they bury lawyers under 20 feet of dirt?
A: Because deep down, they're really good people.
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:) I never heard that one before.
TAB you lost me at ww fence but I got the rest. White washed? Anyway, good for you. Idiot neighbors need to be put in their place occasionally.
welded wire.
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Come on TAB, give it up. Everyone LOVES a story about a crazy woman going away in handcuffs! And her being a lawyer just puts more icing on the cake.
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After the tro court date.
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After the tro court date.
good point....
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welded wire.
Oh. We had that all the way around the yard when I was a kid. It lasted a long time but was eventually replaced by a chain link fence that's still there. When you think it's okay to talk about this case I'll be here waiting to hear it.
What do you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
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Why don't sharks bite lawyers? Professional courtesy.
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Two Florida alligators are sitting on the edge of a swamp. The small one turns to the big one and says, "I don't understand how you can be so much bigger than me. We're the same age, we were the same size as kids ... I just don't get it."
"Well," says the big alligator, "what have you been eating?"
"Lawyers, same as you," replies the small alligator.
"Hmmmm. Well, where do you catch'em?"
"Down at that law firm on the edge of the swamp."
"Same here. Hmmmm. How do you catch'em?"
"Well, I crawl under a BMW and wait for someone to unlock the door. Then I jump out, bite'em, shake the shit out of 'em, and eat'em!"
"Ah!" says the big alligator, "I think I see your problem. See, by the time you get done shakin' the shit out of a lawyer, there's nothing left but lips and a briefcase."
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just a little teaser. Oregon State Bar Association has suspended their license till December 1st. which is the t r o hearing date.
looks like this will be a lawyer number three I've gotten disbarred. at that time all information including the orders of protectionand his farm that will be public knowledge. that's when I'll start posting stuff
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What's a "TRO Hearing"?
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Temporary restraining order.
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Ahh! :D
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just a little teaser. Oregon State Bar Association has suspended their license till December 1st. which is the t r o hearing date.
looks like this will be a lawyer number three I've gotten disbarred. at that time all information including the orders of protectionand his farm that will be public knowledge. that's when I'll start posting stuff
Good deal Tab. Lawyers have long thought themselves as our Lord & Masters. I like it when they get put back a bit....though they really have to screw up terribly bad for anything to stick.
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Good deal Tab. Lawyers have long thought themselves as our Lord & Masters. I like it when they get put back a bit....though they really have to screw up terribly bad for anything to stick.
Or have someone like TAB on hand that will fight tooth and nail...
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In matters of principals, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current. - Thomas Jefferson.
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just a little teaser. Oregon State Bar Association has suspended their license till December 1st. which is the t r o hearing date.
looks like this will be a lawyer number three I've gotten disbarred. at that time all information including the orders of protectionand his farm that will be public knowledge. that's when I'll start posting stuff
Any updates?
Please please please let it be an update that includes a lawyer getting drawn and quartered. :)
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so long story short big cluster contiuned until the 1/19/18
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Not unusual to get put off.
Might not be bad to settle after disbarment....
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I would settle now, a binding agreement too leave me alone. Done. No reason too go to court over this, but hey I am more then willing too stick it in and break it off. I need this shit like a hole in the head.
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Just look at it as "Tab's Retirement Funding Plan" or "Tab's Gun Fund". Lawyers need their wings clipped on a regular basis and if it happens to fund something worthwhile then what the heck....do it. I am not a proponent of suing people...doctor made a mistake and left some sponges in my dad and we didn't sue...everyone can make a mistake. However...a lawsuit is a vehicle to discourage boorish behavior and intolerance like nothing else can!!!
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There is a good "Hoist with his own petard" (even though it is a woman) satisfaction in this ...
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This bitch should be publically flogged! ;D
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This bitch should be publically flogged! ;D
You know, I've had an "inkling" that taking away the very visible public shame and humiliation, like flogging or tarring and feathering, has diminished the incentives to not do wrong.
I'm not recommending going back to those punishments...I don't know enough about all the implications to make any recommendation...just an observation...
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You know, I've had an "inkling" that taking away the very visible public shame and humiliation, like flogging or tarring and feathering, has diminished the incentives to not do wrong.
I'm not recommending going back to those punishments...I don't know enough about all the implications to make any recommendation...just an observation...
I believe public executions were a crime deterrent. If we had them televised it might get through to the people who need to be shown that actions have consequences, and serious actions have serious consequences.
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Frank might be on to something...
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I believe public executions were a crime deterrent. If we had them televised it might get through to the people who need to be shown that actions have consequences, and serious actions have serious consequences.
Might not be a bad thing.... No one will be force to watch...easily avoided, as opposed to and execution in the town square..
And I see another positive..at least in my point of view...
I have felt that our Judge, Jury and Executor system leaves no one feeling responsible for the execution.... Juror: I just voted as I thought the evidience indicated. Judge: I just sentenced him for the crime the jury found him guilty of. Executioner: Just doing my job..all I to is pull the switch. .... I think that if you are so convinced that the person is guilty and should die, you should also believe so to the extent you would perform the execution...and I know there are lots of problems with this...folks would vote Not Guilty to avoid blood on their hands....but...
The televised execution would tend to bring that responsibility home.
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To continue the thought...
How about very public executions in the town square. Guilty party is placed in stocks. Populace is allowed to purchase rock for public stoning. A few dollars would buy a few small rocks. A large donation would purchase something more hefty. The general populace would be encouraged to participate. The guilty party is made to pay the ultimate price at the hands of the offended public. And, rocks are cheap. If the majority finds the bad guy (or girl) not worthy of death, maybe only a few rocks get thrown. If the puke has molested a child, the profit margin could be enormous.
Just a thought,
Crusader Rabbit
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To continue the thought...
How about very public executions in the town square. Guilty party is placed in stocks. Populace is allowed to purchase rock for public stoning. A few dollars would buy a few small rocks. A large donation would purchase something more hefty. The general populace would be encouraged to participate. The guilty party is made to pay the ultimate price at the hands of the offended public. And, rocks are cheap. If the majority finds the bad guy (or girl) not worthy of death, maybe only a few rocks get thrown. If the puke has molested a child, the profit margin could be enormous.
Just a thought,
Crusader Rabbit
I feel that bringing money into the equation could corrupt the process. After all, rock sellers might do anything to stay in business. Plus I've seen a video of a person being stoned to death and you'd have to be a very bad person to deserve that kind of death. I also think mob justice isn't justice at all. Every person who wasn't a victim but is still throwing stones is guilty of contributing that person's death without just cause. It's the same as African mob justice that usually ends up with a necklacing after beating and stoning. That side of human behavior shouldn't be encouraged.
Another thought I just had was about when the hero in the first Starship Troopers movie was whipped. He took his prescribed number of lashes and when it was over everyone went about their business as usual. His crime wasn't held against him after he was punished. I don't think whipping is a good idea but something about their attitude afterward was appealing, like they all forgave and forgot. He screwed up, got punished, and soldiered on.
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I don't like the "rocks" or any group execution.
The execution should not be done out of rage or revenge...but the need to eliminate a person who is evil.
I also might limit crimes to those that have a clear and intended victim.
I look at it as being similar to eliminating a rabid dog. There is no need to hate the dog, just the need to put it down.
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I don't like the "rocks" or any group execution.
The execution should not be done out of rage or revenge...but the need to eliminate a person who is evil.
I also might limit crimes to those that have a clear and intended victim.
I look at it as being similar to eliminating a rabid dog. There is need to hate the dog, just the need to put it down.
+1. Mad dogs need to be put down, but only for the more serious crimes like murder, terrorism, some but not all rapes, etc.
I can't wait to find out what punishment is meted out to this lawyer. Since lawyers should know better than anyone when they're breaking the law, I hope it's the maximum, and not something like a few days of community service or anything like that.
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I did not suggest that any but the most serious crimes should result in public stoning. That should be reserved for the most heinous.
But, there are I think, some strong arguments for public stoning.
After the first publicized stoning, the punishment would serve as a strong deterrent. In my opinion, it is not possible to witness something like that and say to yourself the crime is probably worth the risk.
It provides the survivors and relatives with a measure of revenge in the biblical sense of an eye for an eye fashion. Similarly, it provides final closure for the aggrieved.
It also brings into sharp focus the heinous nature of the death penalty. For those who are strongly pro-death penalty, seeing something like a stoning would give them cause for pause. Death sentences would be reserved for only the most deserving.
Bringing the public into the final phase of the judicial system would be one heckuva good civics lesson.
Finally, selling the stones and rocks could offset the costs of incarceration and execution.
As you may have gleaned, I offer some of these suggestions somewhat tongue in cheek. But the truth of the matter is that long delayed death sentences do nothing to curb crime. Some of the little pukes purposefully shoot the clerk when robbing a convenience store to eliminate a witness, but also because they know they will be out of prison in 10 to 14 years and they will have additional street creds with their homeys. Prison has a way of dealing with child molesters and the like, but it's never guaranteed.
Anyhow, I offer these thoughts to stimulate discourse and reflection. And I apologize for deflecting the thread.
Crusader Rabbit
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I did not suggest that any but the most serious crimes should result in public stoning. That should be reserved for the most heinous.
But, there are I think, some strong arguments for public stoning.
After the first publicized stoning, the punishment would serve as a strong deterrent. In my opinion, it is not possible to witness something like that and say to yourself the crime is probably worth the risk.
It provides the survivors and relatives with a measure of revenge in the biblical sense of an eye for an eye fashion. Similarly, it provides final closure for the aggrieved.
It also brings into sharp focus the heinous nature of the death penalty. For those who are strongly pro-death penalty, seeing something like a stoning would give them cause for pause. Death sentences would be reserved for only the most deserving.
Bringing the public into the final phase of the judicial system would be one heckuva good civics lesson.
Finally, selling the stones and rocks could offset the costs of incarceration and execution.
As you may have gleaned, I offer some of these suggestions somewhat tongue in cheek. But the truth of the matter is that long delayed death sentences do nothing to curb crime. Some of the little pukes purposefully shoot the clerk when robbing a convenience store to eliminate a witness, but also because they know they will be out of prison in 10 to 14 years and they will have additional street creds with their homeys. Prison has a way of dealing with child molesters and the like, but it's never guaranteed.
Anyhow, I offer these thoughts to stimulate discourse and reflection. And I apologize for deflecting the thread.
Crusader Rabbit
Well, shoot..maybe we should stick hot irons in their orifices; chop off appendages; skin them alive; and finish by slow roasting them over an open fire...what a great deterrent.
I worry about what even stoning will do to the "souls" of the stoners....to me, the Guillotine would be preferable to use for execution.....to me, even justified killing done in hate, rage or revenge, other then when under direct physical attack, is to be avoided....I don't think I'd have trouble silting their throat while they are restrained...but it would be done cold, like putting down that rabid dog...and perhaps with a bit of sadness ...not that it was being done, but that it needed to be done.
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I did not suggest that any but the most serious crimes should result in public stoning. That should be reserved for the most heinous.
But, there are I think, some strong arguments for public stoning.
After the first publicized stoning, the punishment would serve as a strong deterrent. In my opinion, it is not possible to witness something like that and say to yourself the crime is probably worth the risk.
It provides the survivors and relatives with a measure of revenge in the biblical sense of an eye for an eye fashion. Similarly, it provides final closure for the aggrieved.
It also brings into sharp focus the heinous nature of the death penalty. For those who are strongly pro-death penalty, seeing something like a stoning would give them cause for pause. Death sentences would be reserved for only the most deserving.
Bringing the public into the final phase of the judicial system would be one heckuva good civics lesson.
Finally, selling the stones and rocks could offset the costs of incarceration and execution.
As you may have gleaned, I offer some of these suggestions somewhat tongue in cheek. But the truth of the matter is that long delayed death sentences do nothing to curb crime. Some of the little pukes purposefully shoot the clerk when robbing a convenience store to eliminate a witness, but also because they know they will be out of prison in 10 to 14 years and they will have additional street creds with their homeys. Prison has a way of dealing with child molesters and the like, but it's never guaranteed.
Anyhow, I offer these thoughts to stimulate discourse and reflection. And I apologize for deflecting the thread.
Crusader Rabbit
Should punishment be about justice, or about getting revenge? I want revenge against those who've wronged me and understand why other crime victims would want revenge, but would it be right? Should I be allowed to attempt to kill someone who tried to kill me? As much as I'd like to I'm not sure it would be the right thing to do.
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Should punishment be about justice, or about getting revenge? I want revenge against those who've wronged me and understand why other crime victims would want revenge, but would it be right? Should I be allowed to attempt to kill someone who tried to kill me? As much as I'd like to I'm not sure it would be the right thing to do.
Indeed it should be about justice.
I tend to look at things from a biblical point of view, and the Bible says to leave vengeance to the Lord.
That is a hard thing to do, being human and imperfect. If someone harmed one of my children or grandchildren, I don't know that you guys wouldn't read of me in the news.
I pray I never have to be faced with the choice.
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...... the Bible says to leave vengeance to the Lord.
But with so many a$$holes out there, he may need help. Remember the Lord also say's, "God helps those who help themselves". So what's wrong with tossing a few rocks on the noggin of a complete dick head?
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But with so many a$$holes out there, he may need help. Remember the Lord also say's, "God helps those who help themselves". So what's wrong with tossing a few rocks on the noggin of a complete dick head?
:) Thanks for the laugh.
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But with so many a$$holes out there, he may need help. Remember the Lord also say's, "God helps those who help themselves". So what's wrong with tossing a few rocks on the noggin of a complete dick head?
I didn't say it shouldn't be done.... I was merely addressing the motive behind the event.
Personal vengeance (revenge) is what the Bible addresses. Guilt for crimes, and punishment therefore, is a different matter. You can judge a persons actions (based on legal guidelines) without judging the character of the heart and punishment meted out and still be sound biblically.
This separation (IMHO) is what allows a Christian to sit on a jury.
As a side note, the Bible is full, front to back, with God's sub-contractors. ;)
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So had court today. Really long story short everything is handled to my satisfaction.
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So, maybe the Cliff Notes version?
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That story was TOO short!
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TAB. Quit holding back dude.
Do you have a gag order on what you can say?
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Ok...how about discussing one item on your "Satisfaction" list each day till you cover them all?
Congrats on the win...but I think we all knew that was gonna happen.
Take care.
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WARNING: THREAD DRIFT
Tab, looks like the California Legislature is going to confiscate the Trump business tax reduction. Are you surprised?
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So had court today. Really long story short everything is handled to my satisfaction.
Ya got us all wired up for the last month and now we really need to know more....... PLEASE!!!!
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What I can talk about, it's life time, cost her $1200 in court costs and I m sure I will be back in court some time in the future... but the look on her face was priceless