The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: Ksail101 on September 11, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
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Hey I saw Taurus bought Rossi firearms, and I know about the M92 rifle they make, but I was unaware of their snub nose revolvers. I went to their website and saw their snubbies and thought they look nice. So my question is, how are they?
Just for imformation sake not saying I will buy one. I believe everyone needs a snub nose .38.
Anyway with a price tag just over 300 I thought that they looked like a good deal.
http://www.rossiusa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=R38&Category=REVOLVER (http://www.rossiusa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=R38&Category=REVOLVER)
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Hey K...as i understand it, Taurus bought all the old machinery from Rossi and they're making the guns with the old machinery. I've handled a few but never fired them. They feel as good as a lot of snubbies. I think they may all have the firing pin on the hammer, but I'm not sure of that.
For $300 or so they seem like a good buy.
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I've got a Taurus CIA 850 snubbie, it's my main carry gun, I had Wolf springs put in, and shoots just fine...
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I have two Taurus revolvers that I like very well, but I've never handled a Rossi. The Taurus Forum has a Rossi section. I bet you can get some answers there.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php
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I've shot a couple, They are cheap guns, they look it, feel it and shoot it. They go bang, and would work just as well as anything else at SD ranges.
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I've posted this before, but it's relevant to this thread:
A long time ago, a friend and I did an informal side by side by side "test" for accuracy between S&W, Taurus, and Rossi .38 spl snubs.
We used Federal Match .38 spl wadcutters all from the same lot.
We shot five 5-shot groups, from sandbags (no Ransome rest available), at two different yardages (have to check ranges, I think it was 5 & 15 yds) from each revolver (50 rounds per gun, total).
We cleaned each before starting and at yardage change.
Still have the data on groupings and target data, just have to "find" it in my piles of files in my shop.
I do remember the order of finish was (it was close):
1st Taurus
2nd Rossi
3rd S&W
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i was given a rossi for my graduation (college) its not a bad little gun, handles nice needs a little tlc when you first get it... but acts nice and smooth afterwords... its a gun that would do fine for carry
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I cannot attest to the quality of the latter Rossi's, but I have one , and its a nightstand worthy, tried and true, tested hard, and than tested again. It's a M971 Stainless, and won't let me down.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/rossi.jpg)
If Taurus keeps that mindset and quality, they'll be a good addition.
P.S. TAB, its probably the length of the barrel, or dumb luck, but I can "thump" a can at 50 yds. consistently, with this one..
SD ranges are as good as the shooter.
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Let's keep knocking down those myths with FACTS!
First the RIA .45, then the Hi-Point, now the Rossi
"Inexpensive does not necessarily mean cheap!"
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yes it does...
but just becuase something is cheap, does not mean it does not do the job it was designed to do. That is what really maters.
Barrel length helps mostly with sight picture.
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yes it does...
but just becuase something is cheap, does not mean it does not do the job it was designed to do. That is what really maters.
Barrel length helps mostly with sight picture.
Well, "cheap" usually means inferior, I paid $360 for my RIA 1911 at varying ranges the groups I shoot with it are about the same size as the groups I shoot with my Browning Buckmark, It has a good trigger feeds any type of .45 acp ammo I put in the mag and goes bang every single time I want it to, and to the best of my knowledge I've never even carried it past a gunsmith. Can any of you say the same about your high end 1911's ?
As to barrel length I think Tab's point is made with laser sights The difference between a 2 inch barrel and 6 inch is sight radius not accuracy longer barrel allows less error so it seems more accurate but use a laser which is not effected by barrel length and the advantage of the longer barrel disappears.
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If you're talking about personal defense, A $300 Rossi will blow just as big a hole in a mope's gut as will a $900 S&W. It's not going to win any awards at the range, but if it's a snubbie, that's the purpose - blow holes in bad guys.
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Thanks for all the input so far. Cheap, to me, doesnt mean it wont work. For something that I will most likely strap on my ankle and knock around. Or be stuffing it in a pocket, I dont want to spend 900 on something that will just be scratched, dinged, and abuse. All I really want is to know that it will take the abuse and shoot when I need it too. RIA 1911's will do this. I have seen them abused and work. I figure the failure rate of any small revolver has to be pretty small. But since I dont know much, that is why I am asking all of you.
I dont know what would really make one snubbie better than another, but I know that snubbies are, generally I should say, little guns used as a last resort, pretty much in arms reach. And most of the aim is just point and shoot right? Is there even a reason to use the sights.
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Thanks for all the input so far. Cheap, to me, doesnt mean it wont work. For something that I will most likely strap on my ankle and knock around. Or be stuffing it in a pocket, I dont want to spend 900 on something that will just be scratched, dinged, and abuse. All I really want is to know that it will take the abuse and shoot when I need it too. RIA 1911's will do this. I have seen them abused and work. I figure the failure rate of any small revolver has to be pretty small. But since I dont know much, that is why I am asking all of you.
I dont know what would really make one snubbie better than another, but I know that snubbies are, generally I should say, little guns used as a last resort, pretty much in arms reach. And most of the aim is just point and shoot right? Is there even a reason to use the sights.
My brother-in-law and his son are both Police officers. One has a blued Taurus .38 snub as backup and the other has a Rossi .357 stainless snub as backup. Both guns were bought at a local pawn shop for $100 and $125 (very good deals). They shoot well and function well.
I've been trying to buy the Taurus for a year now and he won't sell.
I would definitely go with stainless as an ankle or pocket gun due to the durability of the finish.
When shooting snubbies, use what sights are there if shooting slowly. Also practice fast, close dirty work without the sights too.
A laser grip might be in order.
If I ever talk my bro-in-law out of that Taurus, I'll get laser grips for it.
My .02 cents worth.......good shootin'.
8)
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I don't want to "mince" words with TAB, but South American foundries have learned almost everything from you know who,...the United States,...they make a good grade of metal down there, with the resources to advance metallurgy very well.
Metal quality is there, paired with the right manufacturer (keyword), can make a reliable, "inexpensive" firearm. Even American gunmakers have had a share of disgruntled craftsmanship, as we all know.
I bought my ex- wife a Davis nickel finished .380 for $99.00. Cheap,??? Yes..... Made to IDPA super specs???? No way...
Did it work with Speer Gold Dots every single time I pulled the trigger????? YES!!!.
Do I have to "wonder" about my 25 year old Rossi's reliability? NO. It Works,..period.
Blanket opposition to a price range, or brand of firearm doesn't apply "all" l the time. Sure there are "turd's" out there, and most knowledgeable consumers do the homework and choose accordingly.
My P3AT wasn't designed to shoot 250 rds at the range....Just to work if I need it. (Although, I did shoot 2 boxes of FMJ without a problem).
A Snub nosed Rossi? I would bet, unless a basket case, is a "good one" as intended.
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My dad gave me a Rossi snub quite a few years ago,its a good gun,always goes bang,only thing is,i cant find a model number on it,it seems to be a S&W clone.