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Title: Where Are We At?
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 28, 2020, 09:06:56 PM
I have been following many of these protests/riots, especially in the midwest.  The Kenosha incident this week has really caught my attention, and I am looking at many different items on this one.

First videos showed Kyle running down the street, being chased by several, being knocked down, then shooting three, killing one, as they attempted to take his rifle from him, and as he attempted to create safe space.  My question was, what happened before this scene, and why were they chasing him?

Today I saw another video, in the Washington Post of all places.  This video can be broken down into two essential parts:
Part 1, Kyle is with a group of adults guarding a burned out car dealership.  During this phase of the video there are several encounters with Law enforcement, and all are pleasant with officers thanking them for being there and offering them water.
Part 2, has the sound of distant gun fire, and Kyle heads off, alone, to the area.  The next scene is of an encounter where a person is shot.  The video isn't clear enough to tell if Kyle shot the person or not.  At this point he approaches, checks the person, calls out for help, starts making a cellphone call, then he flees as many swarm in accusing him of shooting the person.

This is the point where the original video started - With Kyle running down the street being chased.

At the end of everything there is footage of Kyle continuing down the street, after the shootings, and he approaches responding Law Enforcement.  He raises his hands and continues to walk calmly.  As two heavy vehicles pass, Kyle approaches a squad car, bends to talk to the officers, and the video ends.

At this time in history, where are we?

Are we living a heightened level of alertness and preparedness to protect our family and homes?
Are we prepared and defending our neighborhoods?
Are we gathering and traveling to defend areas of unrest?

I know there will be opinions on each of these three and reasons behind them.

At what time do you see us moving through these three and onto the fourth level - Defending our nation against government officials?
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 05:49:58 AM
Worry about home and neighborhood till Nov 4th. then all bets are off.
Until then ORGANIZE.

Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: TAB on August 29, 2020, 11:21:28 AM
I am very worried there will be riots on or around nov 3. 

Not sure if it will be to prevent people casting thier votes or becuase of who won.

I have never missed an election and i will not iss this one.  After the last riots near her work( which were almost all imported people btw)   we had a talk about what we will do in case they come "knocking on our door"    the house is a rental, we will grab the important stuff and gtfo if we can.  If not, i will defend her with my life.      I do know that some time the end of october, i will be disabling any fire arm that i will not be using.   Just in case we have to gtfo, i want them to be nothing more than clubs to any one that gets thier hands on them. 

The way i see it, there is exactly 1 thing in the house i can not replace.  Everything else is either insured or i am renting it.  I know one thing, if we have to pull a " McCloskey"   i will not be wearing a pink shirt. 
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: alfsauve on August 29, 2020, 12:11:07 PM
There will continue to be pockets of unrest for the next couple of weeks.  If there isn't another police involved incident it will probably calm down.   Of course if something doesn't go the way BLM wants it too then there could be renewed riots.  i.e., charges dropped against one of the officers involved in the controversial cases.

Before the 11/3 there's CLEVELAND on 9/27:   Biden cannot debate Trump live and in-person.  He could, however, do it remotely, with teleprompter help, at a private venue.  To make that happen Cleveland's Case Western U has to become an unsafe setting at the last moment. Either unsafe from riots or Wuhan Flu.    Wait and watch.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 01:00:41 PM
Trump's landslide will break Nixon's record.
Communists will be in the streets 11/4 and the New World Order will be "smoke 'em if you've got 'em".
If there isn't an open season on liberals there will be few if any consequences to shooting rioters. Feds will be to busy rounding up the instigators.
Probably on child trafficking as well as insurrection charges.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Timothy on August 29, 2020, 03:08:12 PM
Trump's landslide will break Nixon's record.


Reagan beat Nixon’s record in 84.

Reagan 525 to 13  Lost MN and D.C.
Nixon 520-17. Lost MA and D.C.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 04:04:13 PM
Check the PERCENTAGES, I think you'll find Nixon still on top.
But it's irrelevant, President Trump is going to take 70% of legal votes cast.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Pathfinder on August 29, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
Where are we?

1. As noted elsewhere on this site, we are on a precipice. Rioters get a free hand, a 17 year old kid gets charged with murder for defending himself. This pisses people off, and may drive them to vote Trump a second term. I said "may" because so many AGs and Secty States in the individual states have been bought by the likes of Soros and his minions. Take VA for example.

2. The media is corrupt beyond redemption.

3. The judiciary is on a precipice as well. IMHO, if the dems win, every one of Trumps appointees will be impeached, including Gorsuch, or will be shown the door to avoid that possibility.

4. Congressional leaders, including McConnell are also corrupt, most of them beyond redemption.

5. At this point, the thin veneer of civilization is holding except where a poor young man of color who was a choirboy and a A-student BTW (pay no attention to their criminal records) is brutally executed/murdered by a racist cop. If Trump wins 11/4, or if there is some form of seriously obvious voting shenanigans, then you are on your own. I say this knowing full well I live on a remote street near an urban center. Not to mention the fat that I am old, moderately infirm, and not as agile as I like to think I was.

Still, I got to the range yesterday,, discovered that my rifle and P220 shot better than I did, and my P938 EDC decided to throw its firing pin backwards on my arm!  >:( :o

Conclusion: I am afraid the only way to right this country will sadly be through violence. NOTE: I am not advocating violence, I do NOT WANT violence, I wish violence would not happen. But, as MB has often said, the people standing against us are our blood enemies, not because we made them so, but because they made themselves our blood enemies through their words and their actions. Portland, Seattle, SF, LA, Milwaukee, Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, et al. have proven this point.

If we are able to right this country (whatever that means), during the aftermath I'm afraid there will be a reckoning not seen since the Revolutionary War.

Buckle up boys and girls, it will not be pretty. I hope I am wrong
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Timothy on August 29, 2020, 05:22:49 PM
Check the PERCENTAGES, I think you'll find Nixon still on top.
But it's irrelevant, President Trump is going to take 70% of legal votes cast.

Thank God percentages don’t win elections...

👍

Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 06:57:04 PM
I finally tried to write some of this out.


Any one who truly wants to understand what is happening today needs to study Soviet KGB activity in this country since the 1930's
Their funding , ($3 mil/year) of the CPUSA and the democratic party's connections to both.
You can directly trace both "climate change" and the current alleged "antifacsism" movement.
CPUSA has been absorbed entire by the DNC, and while both the Soviet Union and the KGB are gone Vlad Putin is a child of both.
Every one knows Frank Marshal Davis Obama's "Mentor" went to prison for pornography and other sex crimes. Did you know he was the Treasurer for CPUSA. The guy who received that Soviet $3 mil. The FBI did. They also knew all the account numbers.
That was the reason for the secrecy about his college records. He couldn't risk the connection to the Soviet Union on top of his sketchy citizenship. It actually has all the earmarks of an "illegal" agent.
Climate Change started as a KGB propaganda stunt to prevent US missiles in West Germany, (Which they didn't pay their share to support) by giving Carl Sagan a faked report claining a nuclear war would put so much crap in the air we'd have years of "Nuclear Winter" . He immediately published it as at least partly his work with out any peer review, he just started selling it as fact. When it was examined he was completely discredited and was fired from his TV show.
The faked up race problems stem 1967 efforts to defeat Nixon .KGB used every effort to discredit MLK hoping some one more radical would replace him.
There are other villians, Inveterate Cleptocrats, like the Clintons, Soros (ComIntern ? or megalomaniac ?) China shipping guns to Antifa, and gangs.
China just in general. And of course the darling Muslim's who are probably feeling neglected.
But the central thread all along is the Democrat Party aiding the enemy at every chance.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 06:57:48 PM
Timothy.
This one will.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Pathfinder on August 30, 2020, 05:04:44 AM
If we are able to right this country (whatever that means), during the aftermath I'm afraid there will be a reckoning not seen since the Revolutionary War.

To clarify, there WILL be a reckoning after this election. Reluctantly on our part, I hope, willful, intentional, and swift if the Democrats win the Senate, House, and White House at the same time. They have already shown us their stripes over the past four years.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 30, 2020, 08:41:51 AM
There is ALWAYS a "terror" after any revolution.
The Tories driven out of newly independent US were who settled New Brunswick, and most of Nova Scotia.
 
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: alfsauve on August 30, 2020, 11:20:26 AM
There is ALWAYS a "terror" after any revolution.

They always come for Robespierre.


ATTENTION:  MA Governor has called up the 1,000 MA National Guard to be ready to  “provide necessary assistance to State and local civilian authorities and/or special duty and emergency assistance for the preservation of life and property, preservation of order, and to afford protection to persons,”.

No specific reason or intel given. 

STANDY BY:
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 30, 2020, 01:36:08 PM
Massholes probably plan to invade NH.
 They are trying to impose state taxes on NH residents. Maine tried that 30 years ago and failed.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Timothy on August 30, 2020, 02:23:21 PM
Baker has called them up before.  Reports are that he is pre-positioning in case the urban areas become Portland or Kenosha.

More when I can find it...
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 30, 2020, 05:18:46 PM
I would REALLY be surprised by that level of sense.
Must want to make sure they stay in Roxbury and Mattapan.
Manchester and Nashua better watch out.
Because they'll get the overflow.
Saw a report on FB of BLM members trying car, business, and house doors.
Checking reaction times, and recon in the Southern parts of the state.
Dumb shit's apparently didn't take the clue from Kenosha.
You ain't in the big city now.
You ain't protected.
We will shoot back.
But their mentality is based on big cities and academia so they won't catch on.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Timothy on August 30, 2020, 06:30:40 PM
Rally in Roxbury started at 1800. 

Nothing more to report.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on August 31, 2020, 11:31:24 AM
If they are taking orders from the Dem leadership then the communists (BLM and Antifa [what an oxymoron]) will tone it down a bit since their actions have disadvantaged Biden. 

If they (BLM and Antifa) don't tone it down then they believe they are driving the boat and it shows the dimocrudic party has totally lost control of their minions.  I prefer to see this outcome because it will scare dimocrud voters. 

And...I keep a VRBP 100 in case I get caught in a crowd.  Hey...if you can be stopped in Tulsa and surrounded then it can happen anywhere.  Wait a minute...I drive on that stretch every day to work where the pickup truck ran over those three white idiots supporting BLM. 

Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 31, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Democrats can't put the genie back in the bottle.
Violence takes on a life of it's own.
Chaos, it's what Michael Bane has been trying to tell you for decades.
Don't feel bad, the dems didn't listen either. They spent their lives in sheltered academia and know better.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on August 31, 2020, 05:53:35 PM
Yeah, that's where I am.  I am ready to see them start eating the hand that fed them.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: TAB on August 31, 2020, 08:12:31 PM
#walkaway.  Has been pretty awesome.  They are really putting the message out for liberals.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 01, 2020, 08:39:35 AM
TAB, that's why you are seeing these mostly white liberal paid rioters burning black business' and neighborhoods.
It has nothing to do with police.
It's the democrats intimidating black voters .
The message is "It doesn't matter how hard you work. We can destroy it all if you vote wrong".
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 01, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
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At this time in history, where are we?

Are we living a heightened level of alertness and preparedness to protect our family and homes?
Are we prepared and defending our neighborhoods?
Are we gathering and traveling to defend areas of unrest?

I have been living in Phase One of these three, however am shifting to Phase Two.  Things haven't changed much around home, but things are happening with work.

A carrier coming to our facility on Sunday evening

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Driver arrived early and according to night dispatch driver was threatened by armed protesters. Driver then took the load to carriers secured lot in Bolingbrook, IL.  Carrier is looking to recover in the morning when it’s safer. Carrier contacting receiver.

As we asked for more details we received the following

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“29185 was at 51st Street and Kedzie in Chicago when someone in a group of people pulled a gun on him and pointed it directly at him. He ran a red light to get away before anyone could get closer and drove off (without hitting anyone or anything he confirms). He is now understandably refusing to deliver this load. He's going to a truck stop in Bolingbrook, IL to wait for someone else.”

Then this morning I received a call from one of our over the road drivers.  He leaves out on Monday morning and runs Minnesota, mostly the Twin Cities, for three days.  While sleeping in a parking lot in front of a store in Crystal, he woke up to the cab shaking.  When he turned on the light and looked out, he saw a person leaning on the fender.  The person went to a car that was parked facing him and climbed in.  Through the next couple hours they stayed and would start the car, turn on their headlights, shining them in the cab, and rev the engine.  While finishing his delivery this morning he told the butcher about it, and was told that that is what these gangs do.  They will shake the truck to see if anyone is in them.  If there is no one in the truck, they empty the load.

I have been a member of the Everyday Carry Club for many years, but I have upped the game as of last night.  The Benelli is in the car bag.  This is an M1 with 8 round tube - I set this one up for 3 gun.  I don't live in Cook County, but the company is located in Chicago, just NE of Midway Airport, so I must play by Cook County and Chicago rules.  I have upped my carry magazine count, I replaced batteries in the flashlight, and something I have been very poor at, I sharpened the carry knife*.

* If you want to know if your knife is ready for an altercation, give it the Janich test:  Next time you are going to prepare a roast, beef or pork, wrap it in plastic wrap, and slip it in the leg of an old pair of jeans.  Do a fast draw, deploy, slash and stab.  You may be amazed at the results.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 02, 2020, 08:16:35 AM
Welcome to Phase 2.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 10, 2020, 07:54:20 AM
Rich white kids burning stuff down:  https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-protesters-leading-lives-of-wealth-and-privilege-busted-for-rioting (https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-protesters-leading-lives-of-wealth-and-privilege-busted-for-rioting)

The only way they lose is if the law is impartial.  If the Dems win they win, if the RINO's win they win, if the Marxists-Communists riots overthrow they win....privilege....must be nice.  Little snot nosed punks.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 10, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
Rastus needs to read Solzhenitsyn  .
The "almost the same" factions get purged before the leftists ever think of going after the opposition.
Those rich white tools will get purged long before we do.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 10, 2020, 09:21:06 AM
Yeah...it slipped my mind.  Getting old here.

The night of the long knives comes to mind....
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 10, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
Rastus needs to read Solzhenitsyn  .
The "almost the same" factions get purged before the leftists ever think of going after the opposition.
Those rich white tools will get purged long before we do.

Once the idiots are no longer useful, eh??  ;)
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 10, 2020, 05:40:32 PM
The way they see it the mob needs to be crushed into instinctive obedience so their own "rabble Rousers" and "allies" are more threat than their enemies.   

  The first sentence is my reply .
I got off on a tangent, verbalizing the things that have been in my head so I could delete all the irrelevant stuff.
Nah, I'll add this cut and go to town.    ;D


First thing is get control of the fire power, infiltrate police and intelligence services.
Infiltrate the courts, and you can arrest and convict any one.
Control the media and you can make them like it.
Remember shows like "Highway Patrol", or "The FBI" ?
Do you think the Soviets didn't have "Chekist's today" celebrating the KGB as the Sword and Shield, of the Revolution ?
Nazi's probably had a Gestapo out reach program.
50 % of the population will believe the last thing they heard,
 60 % will believe what ever is screamed at them,
70 % will believed what is screamed at them over a long enough period, fake pandemic being a perfect example.
30 % think for themselves and those are the ones who pose a threat to socialism.
Socialism cannot compete against  an incentive driven society.
 It lasts in the places it did because they never had anything but feudalism, and monarchy, where you might be able to improve yourself but there was a hard line between Royalty" and Commons.
Under capitalism a guy who claimed his mother collected welfare can become President.
Bill Clinton is a lot of things, but he personifies the American dream.
Under socialism no one gets any thing for doing more than the minimum required, so they don't.
Just like serfs.
PBS used to have a series called "Connections" the theme was unrelated minor events that combined to change the world,
For example Francis Bacon perfected gun powder, Alexander Forsythe, developed the percussion cap, and Eduard Rubin developed the jacketed bullet, Their developments made the Kennedy assassination possible.

Politics is the same way.
Everything is interrelated.
Usually through who mentored who.
Obama is a simple example.
He's a raving America hating Socialist
Who was his mentor ?
Who got him into politics ?
He announced his Senate bid at the home of friends Bill Ayers, and Bernadette Dorne. Currently college professors, formerly convicted robbers, murderers, domestic terrorists, and self proclaimed communists. Google weather underground if your a kid.
Frank Marshal Davis was a grievance monger convicted of pornography who was also Treasurer of the Communist Party USA .
So what about CPUSA ?
The Soviet Unions most obedient foreign party among the foreign national communist parties that make up "Comintern" the "International Revolution".
This was the REAL enemy during the Cold War, and most didn't even know it existed.
Damn. Got distracted .  Maybe I'll add more later.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 10, 2020, 07:35:35 PM
This is why I don't teach.
I suck at it.   ;D
Interruption helped organize the mental diarrhea .
If you pick modern characters, check out their connections, and theirs, a lot of apparently unconnected things come together .
Things today are not happening in a bubble, it is influenced by the past.
For example, every one hates Soros.
The CPUSA General Secretary, and perpetual candidate was named Earl Browder ( google him, don't distract me. ) 
Know what his Grandson does ?

William Felix Browder (born April 23, 1964)[1] is an American-born British financier and political activist. He is the CEO and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, the investment advisor to the Hermitage Fund, which at one time was the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia.[3][4][5]
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 12, 2020, 07:58:15 AM
Not surprising.  All their communist/democrat crap is built on lies. 
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 12, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
I ran across a comment this AM, ( have not had time to fact check it. ) that old Karl lived with his mother and  said she should hurry up and die so he could use her money.
I also ran across the FULL quote about "religion is the opium of the masses, Humanities sigh of despair, the heart of a cruel world.
So Marx actually DID NOT promote atheism, that falls strictly on Lenin.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 12, 2020, 10:02:04 AM
So just another rich kid rabble rouser...
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 12, 2020, 03:37:02 PM
 The Eternal Butthurt Entitled Bitch.
Capitalism is a meritocracy.
Intelligent lucky workers win.

Socialism is for the 2nd raters who don't win.
Capitalism is for those who can and do,
Socialism is for those who can't or won't.
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: Rastus on September 12, 2020, 07:33:22 PM
The Eternal Butthurt Entitled Bitch.
<snip>

TEBEB
Title: Re: Where Are We At?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 12, 2020, 08:34:29 PM
 ;D  TEBEB    ;D
Reminded me of a book series back in the 80's "Casca" the eternal soldier.  He was the Roman that stuck Jesus to see if he was dead yet, condemned to fight till Jesus gets back to deal with him .
Reminded me of the soldier who gave Jesus vinegar.
Why would he just happen to have it handy on guard duty ?
He WAS NOT being a dick.
It's what the troops themselves drank when they were thirsty.