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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on September 20, 2020, 10:19:53 AM
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We have talked about what has been going on, and we have talked about the post election possibilities. Friday, Justice RBG was inconsiderate enough to finally succumb to cancer. The political infighting started before most citizens even knew she had died. Last night I started reading what I feared: If "the Republicans seat a new Justice before the election, there will be (violence, war, revolt)."
Before I go any further I will point out the hypocrisy of the Left. The party of love and peace. The party of Kumbaya.
Living in a violent region I am concerned about where we are headed over the next few months, and this ramps my anxiety to the next level. I chose not to live in Cook County, because they limit what I can own and use. However, I do work in Cook County. I made the plan a while back that certain laws will be ignored. The only way this plan will be exposed is if I face the level of danger I need to use the items, and at that point I will deal with the consequences.
I have asked this before as I started recent threads: What are your thoughts and plans?
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No resources to buy, move, do anything out of fear of an uprising! Living where I live, one of the most expensive areas in the country with little hope of leaving...
I’ll just have to duck! If they break down my door then I have little choice!
Not too sure I really wanna live in a society run by idiots!
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I'm not overly concerned, but I am streamlining.
We had a garage sale yesterday and got rid of a bunch of stuff that we just moved last year. I've also been selling safe queens and stockpiled ammo, and focusing only on that I think is viable and necessary. I told the gun store guy I handed this off to for consignment that as impressive as the hand-over lot was, I was keeping the really good stuff for myself!
PS: I could hear one of the owners actually drooling when he opened the crate of Russian 7.62x39 and saw the unopened tin plate seal. ;D ;D ;D
Luckily, defensive-wise, we live at the end of a very suburban street some distance from downtown Savannah (about 15 miles).
Pros:
We're on the cul-de-sac at the end of the street
We are surrounded by heavy woods from 1/4 mile deep to more on most sides. In one sense, we got no where to go, on another the Bad Guys have only 1 way in - if they take the street.
The house is standard brick (not the thin fascia brick) all around, so round-stopping to a degree.
We have copperheads, cottonmouths and Eastern diamond back rattlers in the woods. Every now and then I find a snake skin in the side yard against the house. The last one was venomous according to the bottom scale plates under the tail. This will be important in a moment.
There is a development - the backside of one - through the woods to the east. That one is is much easier to get to and through than ours. from the 2 open directions (others are all deep woods)
There are 3 other large developments in our development that are between the main street and us. And to get to our development, there are other large developments, as well as significant retail shops (Home Depot, Walmart, et al.) they can go through, i.e., juicier targets.
Cons:
The house is wood construction, so not flame-proof.
I would expect some of the more adventurous bad actors to wander at us through the woods (hence the snake info above).
The house has lots of windows except on the south side, obviously since we're in southern GA. Most of the windows have wide-louvered blinds, so we can keep concealment on those. The eastern windows that face the woods do not - the woods are only 30 feet away from the east side of the house so light intrusion and summer-heating are not an issue. Concealment in those rooms is an issue, especially if BGs come through the woods or along the woods behind the other houses closer to the entrance, which is about 1/2 mile away.
Long-term survival and security will be an issue if things go really south, they will eventually find us.
I've obviously spent a lot of time recently re-evaluating our security here, and have judiciously staged goodies where I might need them - unbeknownst to my wonderful bride who still can't see the writing on the wall.
I listened raptly to Michael's podcast this past week, and agree 100% - we are in a situation we have not trained for. Hopefully, nothing will happen. If it does, it will be Marxist (devious and dishonest) and bad. I live in a deep red state but in a blue county, so I cannot hope for anything from .gov.
At least if they do make it here, it will likely be on a rampage making decisions that much easier. Likely.
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There will be roits on or about nov3. I am not sure if they will be before, after, that day or all of the above
I do know that after casting our ballets at 6 am, me and the misses are going for a drive to spend some time hiking. Its something we both enjoy and i doubt we will see another soul. We will also be heavily armed. Just in case.
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200 year old wood building with in sight of down town, I don't plan on anything I can't have on me. :-\
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200 year old wood building with in sight of down town, I don't plan on anything I can't have on me. :-\
I don't care where we live or what we live in, we all need to live and prepare like Tom.
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I live about 100 miles from any major city. Few small towns within driving distance. Added some more farm animals to the mix. Picked up a little more food and put it in buckets. I get the buckets from a local deli that sells them to me for 1 dollar. Already have guns and ammo.
If major rioting starts and it appears to be spreading to the country I have stocked motion activated solar flood lights as a early warning system, window alarms as a early warning system also. The window alarms from Lowes will be placed in the yard like trip flares we used in the military. The combination of lights and noise I hope will be a deterrent. I have several dogs also. Picked up barbed wire. If they try to climb my fence it will become a deterrent.
I picked up some advanced medical training. I added several tourniquets to my medical bags. Trained my family on basic first aid. I took a old Gerber pouch and put a RATTS tourniquet on my belt and carry it every day.
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I shot 3 gun pretty seriously between 1995 and 2015 and invested in some pretty good optics, targets occasionally out to 418m, and have good confidence in the firearms, especially the 16" mid with a TA31F ACOG with bullet drop ranging with stadia lines...with an 8mm exit pupil, gives me pretty good low light vision also...I get around 1" at 100yd with Australian Outback 69 Sierras...Trijicon RMR2 on the G17 in the Recover Tactical brace is better than any tritium night sight...TA01 ACOG on the Mk18.... the other ARs have dot scopes...
still staying with my decision to switch from 5.56 to 9mm for the truck.. will play this by ear if problems should escalate ... I have a couple of short barreled options
the G43x is IWB any time I'm outside...
I shoot a couple times a week, .22lr for the indoor range, and some hand load JHPs that fit the profile of the carry ammo in the G43x... 100 low ready or one shot draws from each
still may look into a PVS14 night vision monocle though they may be unobtanium... there are enough constant on home security lights presently in the neighborhood that an inexpensive set of 12x50 Tasco binoculars
gives some improved vision without pointing a rifle at anyone
as with most of the members, I'm too old to be intimidated in voting against what I believe... regards
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There's only a couple of roads in and out of here. All dirt/gravel roads. We'll cut down a few trees a little bit past the asphalt. We won't be worth the effort...they'll either have dust or mud on their vehicles. If they persist...they have to get out and move the trees....maybe an unsafe act since they'll be across at points of dropoffs of 40-100' straight down.
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Look who's posting in this thread .
All older, many veterans, many medical issues, much knowledge.
When the shit hits the fan we ain't doing shit except giving orders and direction to the youngsters who don't know where else to turn. ;D
That will keep us busy enough. ;D
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The good thing is that I'll be finished with the up front house remodel in 3-4 weeks. Now all I need is a generator....of which I suppose it is now time to buy one of those Lister CS clones....and another diesel tank for farm diesel.
By the way, do any of you remember what the maximum volumes of propane, diesel, etc. is that sets off a notification to the dotgov people when you buy in bulk? That was something put into place right after 911...I was thinking over 1,000 gallons of diesel sets off notifications....but it could be less.
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Don't by bulk fuel and Ampro at the same time.
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I haven't purchased for a few years, but we had four 500 gallon lp tanks, three 500 gallon farm diesel, a 300 gallon farm gas, and a 500 gallon farm gas, and was never aware of any Homeland Security reports. The only time I had to do any fuel reporting was a short period when I had a truck that ran on lp.
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It was the fertilizer they started tracking. Taggants as well I think.
To many bulk buyers of diesel for it to be practical.
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Over 10,000 lbs and you have to register gasoline, diesel, propane, etc. You register with state emergency management or local...so your data is out there.
https://www.epa.gov/epcra/epcra-sections-311-312#covered (https://www.epa.gov/epcra/epcra-sections-311-312#covered)