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Title: Veteran's Day
Post by: les snyder on November 11, 2020, 10:17:51 PM
although the day is almost over ... a thank you to all veterans, current and former, for your service and sacrifice

Les
6918th Security Squadron, Hakata, Japan
6922nd Security Group,  Clark AB, Philippines
Joint Sobe Processing Center, Sobe, Okinawa
6924th Security Squadron, Ramsun Station, Thailand
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Big Frank on November 11, 2020, 11:44:57 PM
A little bit late but I'll second that.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: billt on November 12, 2020, 02:26:27 AM
They do something nice out here in Lake Havasu on the holidays, like yesterday. Most all the houses have a piece of 1" PVC buried flush with the ground out in the front, next to their driveways. There is a group of people, (I'm not sure if it's the VFW or the Lions Club), that come around early in the morning, and put a nice American flag on a pole in it. They then come late in the day, or the next day and pick them up.

If you go down the main drag of town, they have them placed every 50' or so on both sides of the street for the whole length. And most store owners have larger one's hanging on their own poles out front. I see more American flags out here than I ever saw in the city.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: alfsauve on November 12, 2020, 07:00:10 AM
Les, we may have crossed paths.  In and out of Clark from 70-72 usually on board C5s
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 12, 2020, 10:29:55 AM
77-80  USMC   2nd FSSG
89 - 92  NH ArNG   A Battery 3rd Battalion 197th FA
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: les snyder on November 12, 2020, 03:57:44 PM
Alf... I got to Clark in March, 72... my operations area was next to the USAF Jungle Survival School on NW corner of Clark... the big ass antenna was 6922nd......
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: alfsauve on November 12, 2020, 05:15:42 PM
Most of my time was spent on the ramp, nursing a sick airplane back to health so I could get out of there. 

My team, which traveled with C5s, weren't technically "flight crew" (that way they didn't have to pay us flight pay), but we weren't exactly TDY to Clark either, so they put us up in Clarkview.   Quite an education there.

I remember every base for the food.  At Clark I lived on Chili and rice.  At Kadena it was chicken fried rice (at least they said it was chicken).   At Yokota, Mama-san told me, "don't ask what's in it, just enjoy" ;)
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Rastus on November 12, 2020, 07:07:09 PM
Thank all of you guys.

Let' also remember and help support Mr. Richard Hopkins a Marine who works for the USPS in Erie, PA, and who blew the whistle on backdating mail in ballots.  He spent 3 hours being interrogated without an attorney or union representation by an IG fed who told him to "update" his story.  So certain is the swamp of their scare tactics it was printed (Washington Post) and repeated by the US House of Representatives that Mr. Hopkins recanted his story---HE DID NOT RECANT.  He is home on non-pay status from the USPS while, most likely, they are building a case to discredit and fire him.

Damn "them" who would do this to a veteran.

Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 13, 2020, 09:00:31 AM
Rastus, The same people who always f#ck the Police and military, until they need a distraction.
Democrats.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Big Frank on November 15, 2020, 04:36:53 PM
It wasn't a hot war but I did what I could.

   U.S. Army
  1979-1985
"Never Again"
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Big Frank on November 15, 2020, 04:41:53 PM
Okay. Here's one that's not so boastful.

ETA: Here's my "business card". ;) My MOS AKA JOB.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 15, 2020, 07:15:18 PM
To bad the missiles and guns weren't pointing the other way where our real enemies were.
We had to fill the post war vacuum in Europe, but the real enemy was right here among us.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: alfsauve on November 16, 2020, 10:12:12 AM
We had to fill the post war vacuum in Europe, but the real enemy was right here among us.

For all his faults, McCarthy tried to tell us.  50 years later, when many of the relevant documents were unclassified, a researcher found that in fact there were people throughout the State Dept and the DOD who weren't just communist sympathizers, but who were on the payroll of Stalin.

The most notable was a military attache to China.  During WWII he would reverse the action reports about Mao's and Kai-shek efforts to fight the Japanese.  He would report that Mao's army bravely battled against the Japanese, suffering many loses and that Kai-shek's people hid in caves like cowards.   IN FACT it was just the opposite.  This influenced congress and the DOD as to where to send military supplies.  It wasn't until closer to the end of WWII another State Dept official realized what was happening, remove the attache and started sending corrected reports.   BUT OF COURSE this was all CLASSIFIED until the late '90's.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 16, 2020, 04:38:38 PM
Ann Coulter did  a book on it. I think it was "Treason".
It tells about the Army Venona radio intercepts, the Mcarthy story, and democrat leftism through the 40's and 50's.
She's tends to beat dead horses but it is considerably shorter than any of the other versions of the story I've read, and it's essentially accurate.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: MikeBjerum on November 18, 2020, 07:51:56 AM
For all his faults, McCarthy tried to tell us.  50 years later, when many of the relevant documents were unclassified, a researcher found that in fact there were people throughout the State Dept and the DOD who weren't just communist sympathizers, but who were on the payroll of Stalin.

The most notable was a military attache to China.  During WWII he would reverse the action reports about Mao's and Kai-shek efforts to fight the Japanese.  He would report that Mao's army bravely battled against the Japanese, suffering many loses and that Kai-shek's people hid in caves like cowards.   IN FACT it was just the opposite.  This influenced congress and the DOD as to where to send military supplies.  It wasn't until closer to the end of WWII another State Dept official realized what was happening, remove the attache and started sending corrected reports.   BUT OF COURSE this was all CLASSIFIED until the late '90's.

This is where we walk a fine line with our freedoms.  Sometimes there is a good reason things are classified, and that they should remain that way for a period.  I don't have the answer for how to handle the following statement within our constitution, but there are things I don't have the right to know.  Sometimes one of our greatest freedoms is also are worst enemy.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 18, 2020, 08:42:58 AM
A couple things about the Constitution,
1st, It isn't supposed to be a suicide pact,
 2nd, It was never intended that no one get screwed over, it was designed to screw as few as possible.
Life's a bitch, not every one gets a trophy.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2020, 05:01:35 PM
I just saw this a few days ago when I was looking at some Twitter and Face***k pages, plus a lot of places had signs up like the second pic for Veterans Day.
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: bulldog75 on November 23, 2020, 11:50:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk

Well 93-00 I was a 31C cross trained as a 31U. I think they  re designated those MOSs as 25C and 25U.
00-14 I was 14S, 14m and 14H.
 
I was a 14H Platoon Sergeant when I went in country. Its true what Oliver North says about the kids of today. Some crap heads on TV tarnish what they have did. They are a small group compared to the ones I led. It was a pleasure to lead them. During my first duty station. The Battalion SGM, BN master gun, and my platoon sergeant were Vietnam vets. It was a privilege to have served with them. 
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: bulldog75 on November 23, 2020, 11:58:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oKMjTqdTYo
Title: Re: Veteran's Day
Post by: Big Frank on November 26, 2020, 02:26:11 AM
Thanks, Bulldog. There are less and less men being asked to do more and more. I had the privilege to serve with some Vietnam vets too. I saved both of those videos to watch later.