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Title: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 08, 2021, 12:41:23 AM
We really need to be asking ourselves that question. A total of 3,362 people have DIED since receiving the Corona virus vaccine. 3,362 from last December until this April. That comes to an average death rate of just over 30 people a day. Day in and day out. That is INSANE! And these numbers come straight from the CDC themselves. The same organization that gave us the Corona death count that the liberals so love to support, and blame Trump for.

Remember, we lost a total of 2,977 people on 9/11. The worst terror attack in United States history. We lost 2,403 in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, which catapulted us into World War II in the Pacific just 24 hours later. But in just 5 months we have had this rushed through vaccine, that is suppose to be preventing people from dying, kill more people. 385 more than 9/11. And 959 more than Pearl Harbor. And the numbers are still climbing, with no sign of letting up. 30 a day, day in and day out.

And not only that, now the man reporting these numbers may very well be in trouble for it. None of this has been reported by any of the liberal mainstream media. Why? Naturally, the pro vaccine people will of course doubt the numbers. And they'll call them inaccurate, because they diminish their narrative. And they will attack the messenger.

But what will they base that on, considering the fact they come from the exact same source that publishes the death count from the disease itself? Numbers which they gleefully accept, and plaster all over the Internet. All to help support their narrative, on just how terrible this disease is in the first place. And how we all should be RUNNING to get vaccinated, in order to prevent getting it.

They seem to think dying FROM the disease, is somehow worse than dying from getting the shot that is supposed to PREVENT you FROM dying OF it. People in this country really need to take a step back, and look at what is going on here. I have NEVER seen anything close to this in 68 years of living.

This virus doesn't scare me. Nor does this vaccine. What scares me is the way this government is pushing it. And how stupidly the citizens are responding to that push. They're not just happy to take it, they're acting like caged dogs in a high kill shelter, that just got adopted 30 minutes before zero hour. People always become the scariest part of these twisted equations.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6252794642001#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Rastus on May 08, 2021, 09:04:19 AM
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This virus doesn't scare me. Nor does this vaccine. What scares me is the way this government is pushing it. And how stupidly the citizens are responding to that push. They're not just happy to take it, they're acting like caged dogs in a high kill shelter, that just got adopted 30 minutes before zero hour. People always become the scariest part of these twisted equations.
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Exactly.  Uneducated and/or mentally lazy people.  Their stupidity affects the rest of us. 
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 08, 2021, 02:36:27 PM
Exactly. Uneducated and/or mentally lazy people.  Their stupidity affects the rest of us.

I've never seen "worthless multitude" spelled that way before.
We usually just call them the majority.
I'm glad I went in the Marines for my own reasons, these assholes sure weren't worth any sacrifice.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 08, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
Here is more food for thought. People who have had adverse reactions to this vaccine that require hospitalization, can have difficulty getting financial compensation for their treatment. Just having health care coverage does not guarantee they will pay.

https://fortune.com/2021/05/03/us-covid-vaccine-side-effects-getting-medical-costs-covered/
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Rastus on May 09, 2021, 07:00:47 AM
<snip> Just having health care coverage does not guarantee they will pay.
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If the news media was truthful and "spit that out" on the evening news there would be a stampede of sheeple "to the door". 

And considering not paying...did you guys do know that Congress increased Medicare/Medicaid coverage?

At the same time they reduced funding.

How does that work?
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 09, 2021, 07:14:21 AM
So... If the drug companies that produced the slop can't be held financially liable, and your insurance won't cover the expenses, who then? Don't hold your breath waiting for Sleepy Joe to pick up the tab. Both he and Camel Toe are too busy sending out, "stimulus money".


"No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings".

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22



Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Timothy on May 09, 2021, 08:54:52 AM
So, I take it that you fellers ain’t taking the rabies/kooties vaccines in the near future?
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 09, 2021, 10:46:35 AM
And.... no one knows the long-term side effects yet either because the sheep are the guinea pigs.

I expect future events in people's lives where needed treatments are unavailable for certain issues because they have had the vaccine.
Every six months I get an injection in my knee. I was a year behind due to medical facilities in the area not doing elective procedures during 2020 and it took until last month to get an appointment to get in. While making the appointment the lady I always deal with asked it I'd had the vaccination for covid yet. I answered "NO" and she said don't get one between now and your appointment because if you get the vaccination you can't get your knee injection. When I went in to get the knee injection, I asked several folks what the deal was with the vaccination and the knee shot....as in was it just and admin thing or a temporary "cautionary" thing or permanent....or what........
No one could answer
.

A friend sent me a screenshot of the updated VAERS website for current Covid vax data.

Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Rastus on May 09, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
So, I take it that you fellers ain’t taking the rabies/kooties vaccines in the near future?

This Chinese flu hysteria eliciting the government controls effort puts into perspective why the USSR operated with dishonesty in the background and why they ultimately dissolved.

Black market vaccination records are already on the street.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 09, 2021, 01:57:19 PM
This Chinese flu hysteria eliciting the government controls effort puts into perspective why the USSR operated with dishonesty in the background and why they ultimately dissolved.

Black market vaccination records are already on the street.

No.
They operated with dishonesty because the dumb fucks will believe anything.
Look at global warming, and Covid.
They collapsed because of money.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Timothy on May 09, 2021, 07:14:47 PM
Not to convince or persuade anyone but my doctor of the last seven years was also involved in virology and participated at vaccine creation, testing and such.  He knows I’m not keen on vaccines in general and told me that this is just another strain that has been around since the 60’s!  Labs have worked on some variant or another for years.  Getting it out in less than a year was more about getting the government out of the way...

Again, I’m not worried about the flu or the vaccine either but my wife ain’t healthy.  She’s got the dumbest family to ever walk the earth so without me, she’s screwed!  Call me whatever you like, but I’ve had my first shot and soon my second.  This thing is nothing compared to the two a day vaccines we got in boot camp for most of two weeks, and I have no f....k clue what they hit us with back in the 70’s!  I’ll dig up my shot card and see...

People die, sometimes sooner than later.  4000 deaths from 250,000,000 shots is technically insignificant. 

Pegleg’s thing is like my wife’s.  Too many unknowns for her to get the vaccine either but it’s entirely up to her!

YMMV
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 10, 2021, 04:31:31 AM
Here are the results of a study from Harvard Medical School, citing stats from VAERS/CDC. This study shows us that we've experienced, in the US, a greater death rate in the first 4 months (since the COVID "vaccines" have been administered) than we have in the last 15.5 yrs of ALL vaccines put together! Just think about that for a second... 15-1/2 YEARS vs. 4 MONTHS.

(https://i.imgur.com/S8KPa7k.png)
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 10, 2021, 05:52:06 AM
People die, sometimes sooner than later.  4000 deaths from 250,000,000 shots is technically insignificant.


I've been saying it about the Media Flu since the beginning.
3 million deaths out of 300 million is nothing.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: BAC on May 10, 2021, 06:00:43 AM
Had my second shot on Friday. Still here.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Rastus on May 10, 2021, 08:26:02 AM
No.
They operated with dishonesty because the dumb fucks will believe anything.
Look at global warming, and Covid.
They collapsed because of money.

Well, that was my point.  The idiots believe anything so the people running things run out of free stuff at some point all the money is gone and it's reset time and good people are ruined along with the idiots. 

As far as treatments for the Wuhan Flu (it is not a vaccination as previously known) I'm not taking it.  My wife (a cancer survivor and heart transplant candidate) probably will or may have taken it for all I know.  It's not killing enough people to worry me.  I'm at that age where the mortality zooms up but I had it and Ivermectin (or natural immunity) protected me.  Since I had it I am also not buying into the "boogey man" that I don't have natural immunity to the virus.  Maybe not for variants but if I have to worry about dying from a virus all day long and make that central to my existence and how I operate why bother with living?  If you want it...take it...I'm not but you probably have good reason to and it is effective in its own way...I'm more concerned about adding to misery because of unknown side effects than from dying from a virus. 

I have liberal kinfolk.  They hate big business and love their big infallible government.  In particular a cousin won't hear of anything that the CDC or Fauci doesn't quack out.  He hates the big drug companies for their greed (don't we all) but refuses to believe he is a dupe.  He quotes that we are "dying by the droves" of Covid in the US but in foreign countries not so much citing their medical enlightenment (and as we know and he denies their lack of testing and truth telling) that as a failure of Trump, etc. (what an idiot).  However when I demonstrate that big pharma isn't making big $$$'s on Ivermectin but are making it big on the current treatments and that 3rd world countries are using Ivermectin successfully he sticks his head into the sand and digs in.  The link below concerning Ivermectin is worth reading:
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/05000/Review_of_the_Emergin_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4.aspx (https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/05000/Review_of_the_Emergin_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4.aspx)

And where is this Wuhan Flu from...another good link to a technical article here:
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 (https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038)
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 16, 2021, 02:25:20 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/indian-health-ambassador-gets-covid-vaccine-live-tv-show-everyone-safe-dies-2-days-later/
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 16, 2021, 02:44:18 AM
Democrats in 2020:         We will never take the Trump vaccines.
 
     Democrats in 2021:        We ALL must take the Trump vaccines.
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 16, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Democrats in 2020:         We will never take the Trump vaccines.
 
     Democrats in 2021:        We ALL must take the Trump vaccines.

Democrats in 2020:         We will never take the Trump vaccines.
 
     Democrats in 2021:        We ALL must take the Trump vaccines.


Tom 2019 - 2022  " Blow me."
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 20, 2021, 02:48:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YxyzpUz.jpg?1)
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 20, 2021, 06:06:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YxyzpUz.jpg?1)
And just like that, Little Suzie's IQ jumped 10 points and she no longer needed valium.   ;D
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: alfsauve on May 21, 2021, 11:02:33 AM
Along that line I actually search for the "science" on face masks.   WHO did also and after they reviewed all the Randomized Controlled Tests, RCTs,  they published guidelines for "mitigating the risk and impact of epidemic and pandemic influenza".  2019 BTW.

OVERALL RESULT OF EVIDENCE ON FACE MASKS

Quote
Ten RCTs were included in the meta-analysis, and there was NO evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
  (emphaize mine)

Here's a montage of the frontpage of the guidelines and the actual statement on masks.  Page 26 if you're interested

Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 21, 2021, 01:04:13 PM
I'm so sick of all of it.
Between the contradictory BS being fed, and the dumb asses that keep believing it.
Screw them all, I'm going to go print something.
Maybe this:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4799117
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: billt on May 25, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
Read the author of both, (Elizabeth Cohen). Lying f....king hypocrite.

(https://i.imgur.com/GRGc9Eg.jpg?1)
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on May 25, 2021, 09:46:16 AM
Read the author of both, (Elizabeth Cohen). Lying f....king hypocrite.

CNN

Communist News Network
Certainly Not News
Corporate Nazi Network
Crappy News Network
Covers No News

A CNN reporter walks into a neighborhood tavern and is about to order a drink when he sees a guy at the end of the bar wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat. It didn’t take an Einstein to know the guy was a Donald Trump supporter.

The CNN guy shouts over to the bartender, loudly enough that everyone in the bar could hear, “Drinks for everyone in here, bartender, except for that Trump supporter.”

After the drinks were handed out the Trump guy gives the CNN guy a big smile, waves at him and says, in an equally loud voice, “Thank you!”
This infuriates the CNN reporter. So he once again loudly orders drinks for everyone except the guy wearing the Trump hat.

As before, this doesn’t seem to bother the Trump guy. He just continues to smile and again yells, “Thank you!”
So the CNN guy again loudly orders drinks for everyone except the Trump guy.

And again the Trump guy just smiles and yells back, “Thank you!”
At that point, the aggravated CNN reporter asks the bartender, “What the hell is the matter with that Trump supporter? I’ve ordered three rounds of drinks for everyone in the bar but him and all the silly ass does is smile and thank me. Is he nuts?”

“Nope,” replies the bartender. “He owns the place.”
Title: Re: When Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease ?
Post by: Timothy on May 31, 2021, 12:18:24 PM
Masks lifted here but the sheep still don the mask! 

Apparently they missed the news flash or maybe, just maybe they no hablo ingles!