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Title: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 04, 2021, 02:59:35 PM
About 20 years ago i use to be very big into bow hunting.   Things have changed so much its not even funny.  Well yesterday I bought a bow.  Bear cruzer g2. Rth.  At $400 it was very reasonable.  A great beginner  level bow that I can grow with for awhile.  I was not going to pay 1800 to get a high end bow as I am not sure how much I will use it, but  with ammo being unavailable  at least I will have something to shoot.  Should be here Tuesday.  Still need to buy a release, arrows, targets and some other stuff. 

I look forward to being able to go out back and shoot.

If I feel confident in my abilities  by fall I would love to spot and stalk an elk
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: billt on June 04, 2021, 03:21:02 PM
I've always been fascinated by modern archery, but just never got into it. Too many guns and too little time for anything new.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 04, 2021, 04:04:57 PM
I've always been fascinated by modern archery, but just never got into it. Too many guns and too little time for anything new.
  I have too many guns i can't get ammo for, or it is $3+ per shot. If you can find it.  Normally it would not be an issue as I would roll my own.  Only can't get primers.  What I have I don't want to shoot up as I can't replace it currently.    About the only thing I can get is 45 acp and 38 target loads.   Both about $50/ box.  Limit 1 or 2 boxes.   No 3006, 257 weatherby, 10 mm, 357 mag, 223,16 ga or 41 mag.   Well thats mainly what I shoot.  The more exotic  stuff like 38 super 9x25 dillon,  is a pipe dream.   Its frustrating
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on June 09, 2021, 07:41:00 AM
Well TAB, Did it come it, and does it live up to expectations?
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 09, 2021, 12:13:32 PM
Well TAB, Did it come it, and does it live up to expectations?

I'd say "Enquiring minds want to know", but the truth is we're just nosy.   ;D
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 09, 2021, 06:27:55 PM
Well TAB, Did it come it, and does it live up to expectations?
It did still in the box.  I need a release and some arrows.  Otherwise it is a 4# expensive paper  weight

Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 09, 2021, 07:38:28 PM
It did still in the box.  I need a release and some arrows.  Otherwise it is a 4# expensive paper  weight

Not that much different than guns after all. 
Wouldn't have that problem with a FLINT lock   ;D
And since you ask, Yes, I AM just being a dick.   ;D
My Dad used to have a Bear recurve I messed with enough to know which way the point went, but I've never really been into archery.
Good choice for SHTF, it's fairly silent, and TAB "needs" nice fancy arrows .
If it was the type of issue that primers currently are he'd already have a fletching stand.
Being TAB he'll probably make some anyway just to see.  ;D
Being TAB I'm surprised he "bought" a bow unless it's composite.
Wood he could probably do better than factory.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 10, 2021, 10:40:09 AM
Actually, the arrows i have been looking at are relatively  cheap.  At about $10/each.  ( trust me this is cheap)

Its the damn release, so many options and unless you want to buy a high end one you can't try them.  Its like going to a gun store and being told you can hold the gun all you want, but you can mount it up and squeeze  the trigger
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Timothy on June 10, 2021, 11:02:50 AM
The SIL uses Scott Archery Little Goose release.  He shoots every day, 365 days a year out to 100 yards.  He has tendency to destroy arrows cuz his groups are sub 2” at normal yardage.  I’ve witnessed this!
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 10, 2021, 01:42:55 PM
Actually, the arrows i have been looking at are relatively  cheap.  At about $10/each.  ( trust me this is cheap)

Its the damn release, so many options and unless you want to buy a high end one you can't try them.  Its like going to a gun store and being told you can hold the gun all you want, but you can mount it up and squeeze  the trigger

A guy I know was talking about some he had seen  $40/ea.
They had an LED in the knock so you could watch it like a tracer .

The SIL uses Scott Archery Little Goose release.  He shoots every day, 365 days a year out to 100 yards.  He has tendency to destroy arrows cuz his groups are sub 2” at normal yardage.  I’ve witnessed this!

Dayum.

How much is that in hay bales ?
I can keep some within a couple of those.
If I'm close   ;D

Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 10, 2021, 01:54:53 PM
A guy I know was talking about some he had seen  $40/ea.
They had an LED in the knock so you could watch it like a tracer .

Dayum.

How much is that in hay bales ?
I can keep some within a couple of those.
If I'm close   ;D

Lighted nocks have been out for like 25 years very popular, but not legal in idaho for some reason.  They are pretty cheap.. even have some that strobe/ change colors.  Shooting tight groups does chew up arrows.  Robin holding an arrow is not a high five moment.  It's a 4 letter word and there went $20+ bucks.

I am not sure how many hay bales it would take to stop an arrow out of my bow.  Maybe long ways, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Timothy on June 10, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/block-targets-infinity-archery-target

Mike uses one of these I bought him two Xmas back.  His 100# bow won’t go thru it at hunting yardage.  He has fake deer, elk, bear targets all over the back yard.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 10, 2021, 02:16:58 PM
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/block-targets-infinity-archery-target

Mike uses one of these I bought him two Xmas back.  His 100# bow won’t go thru it at hunting yardage.  He has fake deer, elk, bear targets all over the back yard.
That is pretty much what I am thinking st the property.  Which I am there most days building a house.  Just waiting on the icf to get here
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Timothy on June 10, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
Correction, he’s shooting 75 lb now…
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 10, 2021, 02:38:21 PM
Lighted nocks have been out for like 25 years very popular, but not legal in idaho for some reason.  They are pretty cheap.. even have some that strobe/ change colors.  Shooting tight groups does chew up arrows.  Robin holding an arrow is not a high five moment.  It's a 4 letter word and there went $20+ bucks.

I am not sure how many hay bales it would take to stop an arrow out of my bow.  Maybe long ways, but I doubt it.

I was talking more hieghth, and width.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 12, 2021, 12:39:42 PM
I was talking more hieghth, and width.

Modern bow sights are ghost rings.  That in combo with a mechanical  release.  You are effectively using a modern firearm.  Only your muscles are thr gun powder.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Timothy on June 12, 2021, 02:35:49 PM
Yes, I did shoot recurve bows as a youth.  Compound bows are amazingly accurate after you get used to the gadgets!  I used the SIL bow at a twenty yard indoor range, (he’s 5’7” and I’m 6’2”) so the bow wasn’t set for my draw length or peep sight!  Had to kinda lean over to sight and hold it funny cuz it didn’t fit me!

I was shooting bull’s in a matter of minutes!

Wasn’t prepared to drop the cash on one…

I might look into a modern recurve though!
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 13, 2021, 08:38:09 AM
Couple hay bales, or those backstops Tim posted and you can practice in the back yard.   ;D
Can't do THAT with a gun, at least not in town.   ;D
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: BAC on June 13, 2021, 09:22:37 AM
Can't do THAT with a gun, at least not in town.   ;D

Not for very long, anyway.
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Timothy on June 13, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
My daughter whacks coyotes out her bathroom window! 

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 13, 2021, 12:33:45 PM
Not for very long, anyway.
  in ca i uses to use a cb cap.  Was actually quieter  than my air gun.   Killed dozens of rats/ tree rats with it
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: BAC on June 13, 2021, 08:22:20 PM
My daughter whacks coyotes out her bathroom window! 

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

How they got in her bathroom window I’ll never know. 🥸
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 14, 2021, 08:28:15 AM
How they got in her bathroom window I’ll never know. 🥸

Probably shouldn't ask either.    ;D
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on June 14, 2021, 09:01:11 AM
My daughter whacks coyotes out her bathroom window! 

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Well if she is getting the coyotes, is she taking down some of the illegals as well?
Title: Re: Bowhunting.
Post by: TAB on June 29, 2021, 10:47:39 AM
So a little update.   I have been shooting between 24 and 96 arrows every day.  I have increased my poundage from 43 to 71. At 20 yards I can easily hit a 1.5" dot. At 30 I can do it about 3/5 and at 40 I can put 3 arrows in a 4" circle.   50 and I am about 6"  granted that is about the size of my pin at at that distance.  Tags go on sale the 8th.

Its actually not that different  to long range rifle.  Only you are providing the power and you need to pull thru your release.  Othwrwise all the fundamentals are the same, stance, anchor  points, sight picture and press( or in this case pull) doing the same thing every time, just like  shooting.

Oh yeah, I have destroyed 14 arrows so far, some just need new flechings, others I Robin hooded which normally means 2 arrows go in the trash.  The pictures of what happens when a arrow explodes on launch are not pretty( Google if you dare)I have learned to not shoot the same dot twice.

I can definitely  see some equipment upgrades in my future. Rather its this year or next is the real question.  Better stuff jumps in dramatically