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Title: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 28, 2021, 08:32:37 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59035488
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: alfsauve on October 28, 2021, 09:06:09 AM
As the article said, it's very rare that these accidents happen.  In the US the unions, SAG, AE and IATSE, have plenty of procedures/rules in place.  They just weren't followed. 
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 28, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
As the article said, it's very rare that these accidents happen.  In the US the unions, SAG, AE and IATSE, have plenty of procedures/rules in place.  They just weren't followed.

People are why coffee needs a warning label.   ::)

This brings up a political question.
Liberals want to make a "MORE PERFECT WORLD" .
How will you do that with the same Fed up people ?
If you put in the same ingredients, you don't get a different cake.
Ask your wives if you're not sure.
Might have her demonstrate.   ;D
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: Rastus on October 28, 2021, 06:31:00 PM
I have a good idea we need to put to OSHA.  Movie gun regulations and training! 

Why isn't there something concrete on that.  Heck, there is all kind of required training for hazardous jobs out there.  If an actor is going to be around a prop gun he should be trained (TAB, we have another business here training).  He should have a card certifying he was trained to certain minimum standards.  And, of course, an annual refresher course to comply with the new OSHA regulations.

And there ought to be various levels.  One level for actors on the set with a prop gun, another for actors who have a prop gun "pointed at them", another for actors who pick up a prop gun and yet another for actors who actually "fire" a prop gun.  And for those who "fire" a prop gun, an endorsement for machine gun type props and another for destructive device props.  So if an actor with a low level training say...on the set with a prop gun...get's a prop gun pointed at him or he picks one up or whatever he needs additional training certification. 

And that boys and girls, is how you make money on government regulations.
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: TAB on October 28, 2021, 07:19:14 PM
I would go back to work for my company, twice before I deal with those liberal ass holes.
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: Rastus on October 28, 2021, 07:57:47 PM
I would take their money and make them jump through administrative loops for an education in liberalism!
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: alfsauve on October 29, 2021, 11:04:41 AM
OH yeah, lets jump on more regulations, rule, hoops and hurdles.   [/tongue-in-cheek]

From Taran Tactical. 

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"Industry records establish that there have been a total of three(3) firearm deaths on film sets since 1984."

Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: TAB on October 29, 2021, 12:21:30 PM
I know the pandemic opened the eyes of several democrats  on exactly how hard it is to buy a gun.  More so in ca. 

Reality, I could careless what some one thinks about guns, but if you make a hard stance on the subject yet get paid large sums of money using one, you need to stfu!
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: billt on October 31, 2021, 07:01:31 AM
I'm not seeing the reason why movie sets need "special rules" or "protocols" involving guns? It makes absolutely no sense. ANYONE who handles a gun, be they a citizen, cop, military personnel, security guard, hunter, or Hollywood actor, should be trained how to safely handle it, period. Out of that whole bunch I just mentioned, why should actors be the only one's absolved of how to safely check a weapon to see if it is loaded, and observe the 4 rules of gun safety?

It's preposterous they should have a separate set of rules. Whenever you start involving more people to do what only one is required to do, you automatically enlarge the chance for failure, not success. People start to get lazy, and right away start in with all of the, "That's not MY job!", bull$h!t. And we saw what happened when their luck finally ran out.

It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to open a loading gate, and spin a cylinder. And if we assume that Baldwin was in fact too stupid to perform that action, was he also too stupid to ask someone who was, to show him? The only time guns are dangerous is when people who don't know what they're doing start handling them. If Baldwin proved anything, he sure as hell proved that.
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 31, 2021, 07:54:58 AM
I'm not seeing the reason why movie sets need "special rules" or "protocols" involving guns? It makes absolutely no sense. ANYONE who handles a gun, be they a citizen, cop, military personnel, security guard, hunter, or Hollywood actor, should be trained how to safely handle it, period. Out of that whole bunch I just mentioned, why should actors be the only one's absolved of how to safely check a weapon to see if it is loaded, and observe the 4 rules of gun safety?

It's preposterous they should have a separate set of rules. Whenever you start involving more people to do what only one is required to do, you automatically enlarge the chance for failure, not success. People start to get lazy, and right away start in with all of the, "That's not MY job!", bull$h!t. And we saw what happened when their luck finally ran out.

It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to open a loading gate, and spin a cylinder. And if we assume that Baldwin was in fact too stupid to perform that action, was he also too stupid to ask someone who was, to show him? The only time guns are dangerous is when people who don't know what they're doing start handling them. If Baldwin proved anything, he sure as hell proved that.

Duh.
Because they are dealing with PEOPLE.
And those dumb f@ckers need instuctions on tooth paste tubes.
Title: Re: What are the rules for movie guns
Post by: Rastus on October 31, 2021, 08:45:07 AM
I have lived with and we all pay for stupid rules and regulations.  It is high time for the liberal elements to begin to enjoy the excess administration they crave so badly.

I would give them rules galore to handle prop guns.  They would be required to have a certification just like everyone who ever worked for me needed just to walk onto an oil and gas facility.  Runoff pollution from a tin roof....really????...give it back to them.

I have found that until people enjoy their own "good ideas" they really will continue to tell other people what to do and how to do it from their position of total ignorance.

So...yes, new rules and regulations for what is essentially a problem that does not exist.  It will cost Hollywood $$$'s and be a pain in the administrative arse for them.  They deserve nothing less.