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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Big Frank on July 21, 2023, 01:26:53 AM
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I have a few things to post about different kinds of batteries, so I'm putting them all in one thread. Some of this information should be useful to someone.
First off is the good old CR123A battery, AKA CR123, 123, 2/3A, and a few other names. It's a very common lithium battery the same diameter as, and 2/3 the length of a single A battery. They're 3.6 volts for the lithium ion, and 3V for plain lithium cells. If you use a tactical light like a Surefire, you probably use these. If you can't get your hands on them, you find any of these 2CR5 or CR-P2 battery packs for cameras on clearance sale, or otherwise have them in your possession, you can take them apart and use the 2 CR123A cells inside. Just cut them open, starting at the bottom so you don't short them out, and pull the metal tabs off them. One guy found them on sale for half the price of CR123A batteries, making it worth the trouble of taking them apart.
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14500, or Lithium-ion AA batteries are the same size as regular AA batteries, but they're 3.7 volts. That may be enough to burn out LEDs and regular flashlight bulbs, but someone came out with another version of them. KENTLI Lithium Ion Polymer batteries charge at 3.7 volts, but discharge at a constant rate of 1.5 volts, giving you an extended run time on anything that takes AA batteries. I just ordered them for my EDC flashlight that uses one AA battery, because I don't think it could handle a 3.7 volt lithium battery. They're $39.99 for a set of 4 batteries and charger on Amazon. Since they can be recharged up to a thousand times, this will be a fraction of the cost of constantly replacing AA alkaline or other types of batteries. Plus I'll have full brightness on my light until it dies, instead of it constantly fading. This guy got 10-15 minutes of use with 4 AA batteries in his ATN X-Sight Day & Night Vision Rifle Scope before the voltage dropped too low and it shut off. But these KENTLI batteries are good for at least 7-8 HOURS before they shut off. They also make a charger that's a flashlight. It van charge 1-4 batteries at a time.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H3DOV8I
https://www.amazon.com/KENTLI-3000mWh-Li-polymer-rechargeable-flashlight/dp/B019O3ST6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BapoAPY1N-k
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I have an old 2 C cell Maglite that I upgraded with Nite Ize High Power LED Upgrades. I have a 74 lumen LED with a 50,000 hour life in the light, and a 55 lumen LED with a 100,000 hour life as a spare in the tail cap. These are made to convert most C & D 2-6 cell incandescent flashlights with a PR style flange bulb. Nothing like it for screw-in bulbs. Since they can handle the voltage of more batteries than the 2 C cells I normally used in it, I came up with something better. Instead of more batteries, I use different batteries in this flashlight now. They're 26500 (26x50.0mm) batteries, about the same dimensions as a C cell, 26.2 × 50 according to the list of battery sizes at Wikipedia. But instead of 1.5 volts, they're 3.6 volt, 9000 mAh lithium thionyl chloride batteries. I bought 2 4-packs with solder tabs on them that were $1.10 apiece cheaper than the 4-packs without the tabs. Since they're a little shorter than C cells, I folded the tabs into little squares and left them attached, until one broke off. Even if I pull the tabs off, they're still long enough to work.
I originally bought these batteries to replace 4 AAA batteries in a plastic holder the size of a C cell, but slightly longer, in a $5.99 JobSmart 500 Lumen Aluminum Flashlight from Tractor Supply Co. Since the leads on my multi-meter were both broken at the time and I couldn't check the voltage, I just assumed that it was a pair of batteries in series, in parallel with the other pair. Wrong! They were all in parallel. So the 6 volt flashlight has the run time of AAA batteries which is 1,200 mAh for alkaline batteries. I'm running one of these 3.6 volt batteries in it and it's not as bright, but at 9000 mAh, one of these batteries should last 7.5 times longer than 4 AAAs. If I had to replace 4 batteries 7-8 times, say 30 AAA batteries, instead of one of these, that would get expensive AND be a pain in the butt. If it was only 3 volts, like I thought it was before I soldered the leads back onto the plugs of my multi-meter, the 3.6 volt battery would have made this into a 6 buck "tactical" flashlight. With a $7.67 battery. :) But they'll last way longer than AAAs, and they work great in the Maglite, so it wasn't a waste of money. I also refuse to run 3 AAA batteries in a plastic holder as anything other than a field expedient in my flashlights that also take an 18650 (18x65.0mm) battery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battery_sizes#
https://niteize.com/high-power-led-upgrade#product_subtype=351
https://www.amazon.com/EEMB-Li-SOCl2-Chloride-Certified-Batteries/dp/B07VGHC28B
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/jobsmart-500-lm-blue-aluminum-flashlight-jc-tsc-4103
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Whether you know it or not, many tactical flashlights are "dual fuel". They can use 2 CR123A batteries, 17x34.5mm, 69mm total length, or a single 18650 battery. The 1mm of extra width is almost always there, and the springs can make up for the 18650 being 4mm shorter. That's less than the diameter of a BB (4.5mm). If you use an 18650 battery, it's only 3.7 volts, compared to the 6 volts you get from a pair of CR123A batteries. It's all about compromise, brightness or run time. Good ones like SureFire 123A batteries have a 10-year shelf life, but only last a couple hours (depending on the light), and they're disposable, while the 18650s can be recharged over and over again.
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I bought a new Streamlight ProTac 2L-X back at Christmas that uses the 18650 which is like two of the CR123 batteries.
Along with the order, I purchased two of Streamlight's rechargeable 18650 batteries. They are internally regulated and charge via a standard cell phone charging cable.
So far, so good
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I bought a new Streamlight ProTac 2L-X back at Christmas that uses the 18650 which is like two of the CR123 batteries.
Along with the order, I purchased two of Streamlight's rechargeable 18650 batteries. They are internally regulated and charge via a standard cell phone charging cable.
So far, so good
I thought I had a battery somewhere around here that charges via Micro-USB like that, but it doesn't. It's an OrcaTorch that I bought at SunnySports when I got some camping gear on sale. Then I bought another one with a charger from them too, because the charger for my cheap flashlights... well, it's a cheap charger. It has a spring-loaded adjustable + tab for different size batteries and it's really short, so I use a zip tie to keep the battery from flying out while it's charging. OrcaTorch, as the name suggests, specializes in diving flashlights. It's a 3000mAh battery instead of 2600mAh like the Streamlight and some of my others. They're actually 18.6x69mm, not 18x65, but most flashlights built for 18650 batteries give you plenty of leeway on the length, and it's only 4mm over. I just bought 10 generic batteries on Amazon that claim to be 9900mAh, but they're probably exaggerating by 3 or 4 times.
https://www.orcatorch.com/product/18650-Battery-3000mAh.html
https://www.sunnysports.com/
That sounds like the 1,000 lumen light I have on my Mech-Tech CCU. The 18650 battery is very close to the size of 2 CR123s, but like I said, they're 3.7 volts, and 2 of the CR123s make 6 volts. I bought a 500 lumen NcSTAR tactical light for my VRF14 and it takes either kind of battery, but the 18650 is 1mm too wide to fit in the battery compartment of the NcSTAR 45-90-45 degree side-angling foregri. If I have to use the spare batteries, I want to be able to put the used ones back in the grip, so I bought a 12 pack of SureFire 123s on Amazon. Streamlights come in 12 packs too. I like to stick with good brands on smaller disposable batteries, and buy them someplace that sells a lot so I know they're fresh. I'm not so fussy on the bigger batteries I can recharge hundreds of times, but when I saw a good price on OrcaTorch I had to try them.
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I forgot to post that before the Nite Ize LED upgrade, the 2 C cell Maglite put out 30 lumens. At least that's what they're claiming now. Curiously the 2 D cell flashlight has 10% LESS lumens than the 2 C light. Just swapping the bulb to an LED makes them both twice as bright, but nowhere near a regular LED flashlight. The LED with a blue flashlight in the picture is the less expensive and longer lasting one. I almost didn't get the other one but it's a noticeable improvement in brightness, even in broad daylight.
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My 30 year old Maglight didn’t improve much with 55 bulb.
It’s always been an excellent club! 😆
I carry Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA…about ten years now! They also make an excellent gift!
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My 30 year old Maglight didn’t improve much with 55 bulb.
It’s always been an excellent club! 😆
I carry Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA…about ten years now! They also make an excellent gift!
Got one of those also (after Alf's recommendation a few years ago)....excellent light....... I keep it in my truck bag with a few spare batteries.
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The beauty of the SL 1L-1AA is that they normally are not a sub for each other, one being larger around, shorter and twice the voltage of the other. But SL found a way both physically and electrically to use either in one compact light. Normally carry it with the CR123 for max brightness, but in a pinch you can sub the ever ubiquitous AA.
The problem with rechargeable is, well you have to recharge them. That takes time. If they’re replaceable, and in some lights they’re not, they’re built in, and you have a convenient spare nearby then you’re good, otherwise it’s just like EVs, you’ll do without until it’s charged.
I think there’s got to be a market for utility vehicles with a 1 minute battery swap. Think the river boats at Disney World. 12+ hour work day with no down time to charge.
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Yep that's a great feature as to the CR123 or AA in the 1L-1AA.
I also like the ProTac because you can use two CR123s or one 18650. I have the two rechargeable 18650s and a stock of CR123s.
It's a battery miser as well. It's been my EDC light since Christmas and it's still on the two original CR123As that came with it.
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I'm not familiar with the Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA, but will look into it if my EDC AA light craps out on me.
The battery charger I have that likes to eject the battery at random is a YIQUAN brand, identical to the E-outstanding Wall Charger Black 3.7V Single Slot Rechargeable Battery Charger for 18650 18350 16340 14500 14000 Li-ion Battery on Amazon, except it has no stickers on it. The information on the back is molded in, and there's nothing on the front other than a + and - in the bottom of the groove. You're supposed to put the batteries in + end down. I think I've been putting them in upside down most of the time, but they charged, so I don't know. Maybe that's why they kept popping out. The tab on the - end is short. It goes out to the middle of the battery but the contact is a little bit shy of that. The + contact is a lot bigger and extends farther out. I just stuck a battery in both ways and the LED at the bottom was green for fully charged. My 26500 batteries fit in it too, but aren't rechargeable. If they were, I'd have to wrap the battery and charger with a rubber band, zip tie, or tape, because it's barely in there.
My other battery charger is a Heseny Single Bay 18650 Charger. It only charges 18650 batteries and they snap in securely. There are a lot of double bay and larger sizes online, but I had a hard time finding pics of a single like mine. I swapped batteries in one of my cheap "tactical torches" yesterday and charged the battery with this charger. It topped off the 3.7 volt battery at 4.2 volts. That ought to last awhile with an extra 1/2 volt in it. Or burn out sooner. I was looking at a 4 bay OrcaTiorch charger before I bought this, and think it was when I bought my 4th battery. I knew they wouldn't all be dead at the same time, and now I have 2 chargers to charge 2 batteries. The plug on the other one folds flat for storage, but this one has a cord as shown. I like this one way better.
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The 1l-1AA was my EDC for a while. It's the perfect pocket size and has a very concentrated beam so it shines far but still has good side spill. It shines almost as far as the ProTac that has 500 lumens due to the fact that the bigger light has more spill and less focus. We have a deer cleaning shed on the back side of the property and it's about 175 yards from the house and I can light it up enough to see if someone is down there at night from our back deck.
Like Alf said it is very versatile as to batteries. It'll work with one AA alkaline (some newer lights specify lithium only, I think) or lithium or CR123A lithium.
350 lumens with the CR123 but around 150 with the AA battery....but the fact that you can use the AA in a pinch in order to have good lighting is a plus.
High Lumens 350
Run Time on High 1.30 hours
Run Time on Low 14.00 hours
Beam Distance 160 meters
Max Candela 6,400
Battery Type AA Alkaline, CR123A Lithium, AA Lithium
Battery Quantity 1
Length 4.25 inches
Weigh t2.80 ounces
https://www.streamlight.com/products/detail/protac-1l-1aa
(https://www.streamlight.com/images/default-source/product-large-images/88061_protac_1l1aa_main.jpg?Status=Master&sfvrsn=e23ebbf0_13)
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I picked up one of the Nitecore Intelligent chargers. They are ~$40 but you can mix and match Li-ion / IMR / Ni-MH/ Ni-Cd chemistries and it sorts them out for you. Also your battery voltage needs...automatically.
Also if you have some lithium ion non-rechargeable batteries it will recognize them as non rechargeable .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GODG3X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GODG3X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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The only thing I would like to add to the info here is to consider a charger that is USB-compatible. That makes it very convenient to charge in a car, off of your laptop, at home using one of the "wall wart" type chargers, or even with one of the solar chargers out there.
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My 30 year old Maglight didn’t improve much with 55 bulb.
It’s always been an excellent club! 😆
I carry Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA…about ten years now! They also make an excellent gift!
If it's a C cell flashlight, you may see an improvement doubling the voltage by using 26500 batteries. If it's a D cell flashlight, you could do the same thing with 34615 batteries. You can buy 1,500 cheap ones on Amazon for $11,399.99. :o ;) That was the first link I clicked on when I searched for "34615 battery".
https://www.amazon.com/Lithium-Battery-19000mAh-ER34615-1500pcs/dp/B085HQTYDX
Another brand says, Lithium-Thionyl Chloride (Li-SOCl2), Operating Temperature Range: -55 ~ 85°C (-67 - 185 degrees F), non-rechargeable lithium battery used in many applications such as Alarm Systems, Memory Backup, Flashlights, Radios, RFID, Medical Devices, Buoys/ Emergency Location Equipment, Water Meters, Gas Meters, and many types of electronics. These batteries are designed for long term use (3-20 years) and have a long term shelf life if stored at room temperature of 10 years. The ****** battery has an extremely low self-discharge rate, making the batteries an excellent back up power source.
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The only thing I would like to add to the info here is to consider a charger that is USB-compatible. That makes it very convenient to charge in a car, off of your laptop, at home using one of the "wall wart" type chargers, or even with one of the solar chargers out there.
That is one of the things I like about the Streamlight batteries I mentioned earlier. All you need is a phone charger....even one of those $1.25 warts and a matching cable from The Dollar Twenty-Five Tree will work.
My Streamlight Stinger charging base works off a USB cable as well.
A lot of light makers are coming around to this.
I have a rechargeable spotlight that charges via the same USB type cable as the Streamlight. It came with the cord and it stores in the tail cap of the light. All you need is a USB port.
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The 1l-1AA was my EDC for a while. It's the perfect pocket size and has a very concentrated beam so it shines far but still has good side spill. It shines almost as far as the ProTac that has 500 lumens due to the fact that the bigger light has more spill and less focus. We have a deer cleaning shed on the back side of the property and it's about 175 yards from the house and I can light it up enough to see if someone is down there at night from our back deck.
Like Alf said it is very versatile as to batteries. It'll work with one AA alkaline (some newer lights specify lithium only, I think) or lithium or CR123A lithium.
350 lumens with the CR123 but around 150 with the AA battery....but the fact that you can use the AA in a pinch in order to have good lighting is a plus.
High Lumens 350
Run Time on High 1.30 hours
Run Time on Low 14.00 hours
Beam Distance 160 meters
Max Candela 6,400
Battery Type AA Alkaline, CR123A Lithium, AA Lithium
Battery Quantity 1
Length 4.25 inches
Weigh t2.80 ounces
https://www.streamlight.com/products/detail/protac-1l-1aa
(https://www.streamlight.com/images/default-source/product-large-images/88061_protac_1l1aa_main.jpg?Status=Master&sfvrsn=e23ebbf0_13)
And if you don't like Tacticool Black, it comes in Coyote Ugly. I mean Coyote. :)
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I picked up one of the Nitecore Intelligent chargers. There ~$40 but you can mix and match Li-ion / IMR / Ni-MH/ Ni-Cd chemistries and it sorts them out for you. Also your battery voltage needs...automatically.
Also if you have some lithium ion non-rechargeable batteries it will recognize them as non rechargeable .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GODG3X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GODG3X0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
The automatic current selection, and automatically detecting non-rechargeable batteries and notifying you about it are features I never heard of in a battery charger before. That thing is really smart.
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That is one of the things I like about the Streamlight batteries I mentioned earlier. All you need is a phone charger....even one of those $1.25 warts and a matching cable from The Dollar Twenty-Five Tree will work.
My Streamlight Stinger charging base works off a USB cable as well.
A lot of light makers are coming around to this.
I have a rechargeable spotlight that charges via the same USB type cable as the Streamlight. It came with the cord and it stores in the tail cap of the light. All you need is a USB port.
And if your phone has a 5x speed fast charger that you plug the USB cable into that plugs into the wall or cigarette lighter, you can charge your USB-chargeable batteries with it a lot faster than plugging into a USB port on your computer. Mine looks like this and it's just a standard old-fashioned USB A socket. You plug in whatever adapter cord you need, in my case a USB C for my phone, but a Micro USB for rechargeable batteries. All you need is the phone charger and the battery cable - it's "plug and play". I don't have a fast charger for the car and would have to use the slow (I'm assuming) built-in USB charger.
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I use a USB battery charger for AAA through 18650. I kinda like this one. Picture of it, then of the solar charging "center" and for those who hadn't seen it, my solar charging system. Batteries under the shelf.
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The automatic current selection, and automatically detecting non-rechargeable batteries and notifying you about it are features I never heard of in a battery charger before. That thing is really smart.
They now make them to plug into a USB. That limits the charging speed especially when more than 1 battery is being charged at a time. I have mixed 2-3 battery types simultaneously and it worked well.
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I bought 11 flashlights, 2 weapon mounted lights, and a MultiColor Obulb from Olight, plus a Streamlite ClipMate. The ClipMate has a White LED: High: 70 lumens; runs 3.5 hours; 500 candela. Low: 10 lumens; runs 24 hours; 50 candela. And a 620-630 nm red LED to preserve night vision: High: 0.5 lumens; runs 16 hours; 9 candela. Low: 0.2 lumens; runs 65 hours; 3 candela. The Obulb and Baton 3 Pro came with magnetic chargers that stick on the bottom, and the Baton came with a self-adhesive L bracket to hang it from. If the light wasn't in my belt holster, I'd stick the L bracket on the top of the bedpost near the top. I have a few accessories for the Obulb to hang it different ways, including a silicone(?) Osling.
My new EDC is a desert tan Olight Baton 3 Pro 1500 Lumens Rechargeable Flashlight. It's only 4" long and under an inch in diameter. About the same size as my previous EDC flashlight that uses a single AA battery. This uses an 18650 and isn't a whole lot bigger than the battery itself. I got the 5700~6700K Cool White, rather than the 4000~5200K Natural White. It will run for 120 days straight on the 1/2 lumen moonbeam setting. It has a Beam Distance of 574 ft (175 m) on Turbo, which drains the battery bad in 2 minutes before it gets too hot and switches to high. But that's still 600 lumens. It switches to Turbo when you double-tap the switch, and also strobes when you triple-tap it. If you hold the button down for 5 seconds you can lock it out so the light doesn't turn on accidentally. If it's in an enclosed space it can get hot enough to melt the lens.
The little iTHX Pumpkin Orange Keychain EDC Flashlight is 5 and 180 lumens, selectable with a twist that turns it on, with a runtime of 23 minutes - 12 hours. The AAA key ring flashlights are 90 lumens. The push-button AAA flashlights are 5 and 180 lumens with a runtime of 21 minutes - 16 hours for the carbon fiber model. And the black one has a max of 200 lumens output with a AAA, but I put a 10440 rechargeable li-ion battery in and boosted the max output to 300 lumens. It also has a low 5 lumen setting with a runtime of 21 hours, maybe more withe the 3.7 volt battery in it.
My AA flashlights are an HCRI, high color rendering index, that shows more accurate colors than you typically see with a flashlight, close to natural sunlight. It has a customized 14500 lithium-ion battery with a Type-C charging interface instead of a AA battery. That gives it a a max output of 285 lumens and a max throw of 58 meters, 190 feet. My other AAA size has the same battery with a max output of 350 lumens and a max throw of 64 meters, 210 feet. Not bad for a flashlight that weighs 2 1/8 ounces. They both have a 15 lumen low setting too.
https://www.streamlight.com/products/detail/clipmate-usb#
https://www.olightstore.com/baton-3-pro-small-rechargeable-flashlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGw-iXenHNE&t=1s
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I figured out something to do with one of those little AAA flashlights I got from Olight. I bought a Grunt Style Beer Season Beer Sock Insulator for my friend's birthday in late summer, a few months before deer season. That's beer season for him. So is the rest of the year for that matter. ;) When he gets this beer sock with a flashlight on it, he'll be able to see his way to the fridge. He had one beer koozie he kept misplacing and never knew where it was. Someone pinned a ball compass on it so he wouldn't get lost if it didn't, but it didn't seem to help. It got lost without him.
My friend is left-handed (sinister, like his wife) so I oriented the light left-handed. I cut 2 slits in the beer sock with an X-Acto knife, slid the clip in, and hot glued the tip in place with black hot glue. After a couple of minutes I snapped the Antique Bronze light into the pocket clip. I thought it went best with the black beer sock of the 3 lights I have. I stuck an empty can in it and held it left handed with the front facing me. The light indexes on my index finger when I extend it, so I think it's lined up about as good as it can be. This doesn't compare to the Dale call I got him last year, but I think he'll like it. The beer sock is in a Ziploc bag right now, and I'm thinking about sealing it completely with Gorilla Tape to make him work for it. ;D
https://www.gruntstyle.com/products/grunt-style-beer-season-beer-sock-insulator
It's funny how the air cleaner on the Dale Call vibrates and bounces around when the engine revs.
The infamous "Dale Jr. Call" made famous by the "Dale Call" Mountain Dew commercials is relaunching with a new look. Redesigned with TrueTimber DRT Camo, it now sports black and chrome accents and features the TrueTimber TTC logo along with Mountain Dew and 88 Logos. Engine sounds and header pipe lights are activated by blowing into the call and continue for 5 seconds after activation. A perfect gift for every race fan, and countless fun around the house or office.
Features:
Redesigned with TrueTimber DRT Camo
Engine sounds and lights activated by blowing into call
Mountain Dew, 88 and TTC Logos on side
Batteries included
https://store.truetimber.com/products/tt0088-truetimber-dale-call-drt
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Last month I bought a Pinwheel Orange i1R 2 Pro Keychain Flashlight, and a Pinwheel Blue i3T EOS Small Flashlight from Olight. The i1R 2 Pro is UBB-C rechargeable just like my iTHX Pumpkin Orange Keychain EDC Flashlight shown previously, but with a more normal shape. They're the same max output of 180 lumens, but they're only 5 lumens if you twist them on and don't keep twisting. The i3T EOS is click-adjustable 5 and 180 lumens with a AAA battery, but if you put a non-recommended 3.7 volt 10440 rechargeable li-ion battery in, it can boost the light's max output to about 270 - 300 lumens. I put them in all my i3T2 EOS (recommended) and i3T EOS (non-recommended) flashlights. I took the 10 lumen Ultimate Survival Technologies Pico Light off my key ring and used the clip to attach the iTHX Pumpkin Orange flashlight in it's place. It's 5 lumens look as bright as the Pico's 10, and when I need more than that I can just twist it farther to get the full 180 lumens.
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The 10 lumen UST - Ultimate Survival Technologies Pico Light uses 4 LR41 button batteries in a plastic cartridge. The Streamlight Nano Light is also 10 lumens, and also uses 4 LR41 Alkaline Button Cells. UST discontinued the Pico Light, but Streamlight still makes the Nano Light for anyone who doesn't mind buying bunches of button cells to run a smaller, but less capable flashlight. It's 1.47 in (3.73 cm) long x 0.51 in (1.30 cm) wide. Weight: 0.36 oz (10.21 g). It has up to 8 hrs of run time before you have to replace all 4 batteries. If you shop around, you can get one for a couple bucks more than the cost of replacement batteries. So, even though it has a 100,000-hour life LED, you could almost consider it disposable after "up to" 8 hours of use. ??? It looks like Energizer also had a Micro flashlight similar to these but discontinued it.
https://www.ustgear.com/lighting/
https://www.streamlight.com/products/detail/nano-light
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Around 1 pm I sent a message to Olight asking how long the package my Zirconium flashlight had to be missing before it was officially considered lost. After a couple emails between us, I got one about an hour and a half after the initial contact with my order number for the replacement. They'll send me a tracking number when it's on its way.
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OLight works hard at it. Trying to overcome any negative image about being Chinese I think.
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One person on YouTube says Olight's flashlights are junk, but they give free stuff to all these YouTube personalities who give them good reviews and keep getting free stuff. I'll see for myself how things turn out, but I won't be buying their $600 25,000 lumen flashlight, or anything like that. My wallet can't take that kind of hot in he first place, and if it breaks, I can't afford to buy a second one to replace it. I was hesitant about shelling out the bucks for the zirconium flashlight, but I wanted to own a limited edition made of an unusual material.
X9R Marauder Brightest Flashlight - max output of 25,000 lumens. 4.9 stars in 35 reviews. $600.00 That's too rich for me. There's also a max 14,000 lumen Marauder 2 Powerful Flashlight for $329.95, and 7,000-lumen max output Marauder Mini Powerful LED Flashlight With RGB for $199.99. They're all rated 4.9 stars and the price of that last one approaches sanity. Four color options and a max throw of .37 miles makes it quite useful. It's still a lot of money for a flashlight, but a fraction of the cost of a Surefire WML that some people wouldn't hesitate to buy.
https://www.olightstore.com/x9r-marauder
https://www.olightstore.com/marauder-2-bk
https://www.olightstore.com/marauder-mini-powerful-led-flashlight
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We are in a place with accepting “junk” from China, that our grand parents were in the 50s with “junk” from Japan.
Interesting, even though they are mortal enemies, a lot of Japanese stuff is outsourced to China these days.
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I picked up a 6000 luman max flashlight at Harbor Freight for around $25.00, It's rechargeable and has 3 settings and you can use it to charge your cell phone, the beam is adjustable from flood to spot and it WILL blind anyone that has it shined into their eyes.
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Is this it Majer? It says that it's 5.68 in. long, but I saw a video that shows it to be more than double that length, about 11.9 inches. 6,000 lumens is good for $25.97, but says Shipping Weight = 1.76 lb. (28.16 ounces). The smaller 1,500 lumen version for $10.97 says Product Weight = 0.80 lbs., which is 12.8 ounces, but my 1,500 lumen Olight weighs 3.63 oz (103 g), more than 71% less. It also cost a lot more than $10.97, which sounds like a good price if you don't mind carrying more than 3 1/2 times the weight. I've had several free Harbor freight flashlights, but they might have some worth buying.
Oh, never mind what I said about the 1,500 lumen Harbor freight light. It uses 9 AA Al Kaline batteries. There's no way I would buy that flashlight over one that uses a single rechargeable 18650 battery. But the 6,00 lumen flashlight takes a 26650 battery. If you bought an extra battery and charger for it you'd be good to go.
https://www.harborfreight.com/6000-lumen-rechargeable-waterproof-twist-focus-led-flashlight-with-battery-bank-58515.html
https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lumen-led-flashlight-58220.html
Alkaline? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kaline
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That looks the same, But mine has Braun printed on it and the packaging says 7000 lumens.It's just a RCH over 12 inches, has 3 settings-170,1750 and 7000 Lumens, 4 if you count the strobe setting, I think it may have been discontinued as I don't see it on their web site anymore.
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I just searched for "Braun flashlight", which I didn't know Braun made, and the first link on the list was to Harbor Freight. There are 55 Braun items and this was number 4.
BRAUN 7000 Lumen Rechargeable Waterproof LED Flashlight with Battery Bank. $69.99. In-Store Only. Available Online by Feb. 22.
The BRAUN™ 7000 Lumen Rechargeable Waterproof LED Flashlight with Battery Bank has a 46 hours runtime and built-in power bank for long-lasting light and power. The twist-to-focus feature allows close-up or long-range use. It is IPX7 rated and has a built-in striking edge for emergencies.
IPX7 waterproof up to 1 meter, ideal for all weather conditions
Twist-focus zoom function for close-up or long-range use
Super-durable machined aluminum body is built for the toughest conditions
Heavy-duty spring steel clip for hands-free use
Easy-access on/off button
Three light modes: low, high, and turbo
Striking edge for emergency use
Powerful rechargeable battery can double as a power bank to charge small USB devices
4.5/5 stars in 73 reviews, and 90% of customers would recommend this item. I'm impressed. But it says Product Length: 5.68 in., which I know is wrong, and Shipping Weight: 1.54 lb. That's heavy, but not compared to my old 6 D cell Maglite, or the even heavier flashlight my dad used to have for coon hunting when I was a kid. But neither of those was anywhere near as bright.
On the other hand, the 3, 2, and 1 star reviews don't sound very good. One person says in part, "...the 800 lumen tac light offered at harbor freight it is much better just as bright but can reach a much further distance." and other people are saying there's no way it's 7,000 lumens, so now I don't know what to think. Most of the reviews are good, but the bad reviews are REALLY BAD. Like --> Both flashlights were defective and had to be returned. Hopefully, if anything breaks you can get it back to the store within 90 days from the date of purchase. I like the idea of having a flashlight with a big battery that will last longer than an 18650, like a 26650, but it doesn't look like this is the one for me. Of course, if I'm in the store and it's on sale crazy cheap, that's a different story. I would use it for a car flashlight.
https://www.harborfreight.com/7000-lumen-rechargeable-waterproof-led-flashlight-with-battery-bank-59314.html
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That's it, On turbo it is definitely 7000 lumens, It will burn your retinas if you look directly into it and no I didn't do that, but it is that bright.They may not have fully charged it before using it. Mine wasn't that bright when I unpacked it, I plugged it in to charge and the brightness was there. I paid a lot less that the $69.00 for mine,but I'm a member of the insider club so it was probably on sale.
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You may be right about people not charging them up first. Some flashlight instructions specifically tell you to fully charge the battery (or batteries) before the first use. But if you don't read the instructions...
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But if you don't read the instructions...
Read the directions? Just ask my wife, REAL MEN DO NOT read instructions!
Maybe that is why all my furniture is falling apart. ??? ??? ???
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My BODY is falling apart!
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Here's a pic of my pinwheel blue, pinwheel orange, and zirconium flashlights. The zirconium flashlight is a LOT heavier than the 2 aluminum and 1 carbon fiber flashlight I have that size. I have AAA size lithium batteries in all 4 of them, but only one of the aluminum flashlights is supposed to use them. The rest will work but get hot after a few minutes on high. Zirconium is 6.52 g/cm3 and aluminum is only 2.70 g/cm3, so it's 2.4+ times heavier! Titanium is 4.506 g/cm3, and zirconium is ~45% heavier.
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I got more flashlights from Olight a week ago. I bought them during their St. Patrick's Day sale. The first one was another Baton 3 Pro 1500 Lumen Rechargeable Flashlight, but this one is a Roadster design limited to 6,000 Worldwide in Cool White only, and it's already sold out. It has the same magnetic charging cable as the other Baton 3 Pro and Obulb MC Multi-Color Bulb Light I bought earlier. To give it some extra pizazz I took the blue clip I bought off my desert tan Baton 3 Pro and swapped it for the chrome plated or stainless one, whatever this one is. The blue clip on the orange part of the flashlight is a really nice contrast.
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The second light I got is a Diffuse 700 Lumens EDC Pocket Flashlight with 5 brightness levels and a strobe mode, plus 3-Color Battery Notice glowing ring around the power button. I put a 14500 3.7 volt battery in it and lost all 6 modes except what looked like high and it strobed on high instead of turbo. So I put the Olight 2.4 volt Li-ion battery back in and it has all 5 levels from 700 lumen turbo when you double tap the power button, down to 1 lumen, and 700 lumen strobe when you triple tap it. OD Green is a brand new color for the "lipstick size" flashlight. The pentagonal design is really nice and it won't roll off a desk or other surface.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280UaUHjd0M
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I got a free i3E EOS Keychain Flashlight. It was another Black Lava color. I was hoping to get a Vibrant Orange color since I don't have one of those, and I already have the other 3. The Baton 3 Pros both came with an L-Stand made of magnetic stainless steel and backed with strong adhesive tape. I stuck one on each bed post at the head of the bed and have my desert tan light stuck to one of them and the Roadster edition is my EDC. I don't think I ever posted it, but I have an Obuddy Astro Red for my Obulb. It has a magnetic charger on it so I can charge the Obulb while it's standing in the Obuddy. The Obulb came with 2 little googly eyes. I stuck them both on but one fell off, so now it's a cyclops. My Obulb MC is red, so it's a good match to my Obuddy. The Obulbs float, so you have "dsco lights" in the bathtub if that's what floats your boat, some pun intended. I have an Osling for it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGw-iXenHNE
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I also have an Olink and Ohook Magnetic Hook for my Obulb and Baton 3 Pro flashlights. I can hook the Olink onto a strap on the front of my backpack if I want to and have it ready to grab in an instant. Or stick it on a belt loop if the clip breaks and I don't have my holster for it. And hang the Obulb in my tent from the hook if I want to. Lots of possibilities. You turn the Olight on by pressing down on it, and the base of it fits in the silicone Osling so you can stick your arm through it or hang it on a tree branch or wherever. The blinking red Obulb could be attached to the back of a bike at night too. Or a person. ;)
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Right now you can buy an Orange or OD Green Arkfeld flashlight with white light and green laser, or an Orange or OD Green Baton 3 Pro Max 2,500 lumens flashlight for $89.99 and get an iTHX Pumpkin Orange 180-lumen keychain flashlight, a $23.95 value as an Easter gift. That's what's hanging on my key-ring right now.
Or buy a Brass Stonewash Baton 3 Pro Max for $109.99 and get a Sunbreeze Pro Double (Camouflage & Green) travel hammock with bug protection, a $34.95 value as a free gift. The Brass Stonewash flashlight weighs 8.25 oz, while the Orange and OD Green ones only weigh 5.22 oz. They made a Desert Tan version that weighed 4.73 oz. It was magnesium instead of aluminum, IIRC.
https://www.olightstore.com/happy-easter-2024?os=DOVM&oc=EDM9B&sc_src=email_696750&sc_lid=41475607&sc_uid=QQKPjT9BD1&sc_llid=40438&sc_eh=04fee8a63959dfb41
That pentagonal shaped Diffuse 700 Lumen EDC Pocket Flashlight (5 sides and 5 power levels 8)) I recently bought won an iF Product Design Award from International Forum Design this year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IF_Product_Design_Award
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Not on sale, but new is a Javelot Long Range Outdoor Flashlight with Holster. A max output of 1,350 lumens and 134,000 candela allows it to cast a focused beam up to 730 meters. That's about 80 feet shy of half a mile. :o I don't need to see 1/2 mile at night with a flashlight, so I'm not spending $104.99 on one. The Javelot Pro 2 Long Distance Flashlight costs twice as much, but has a max 2,500 lumens with an extreme 1,050-meter beam distance, 3,445 feet, .65 miles. :o :o The spare battery pack for it is $79.95. ouch! The Javelot Turbo Spotlight Flashlight costs $229.95 and has a max 1,300 lumens with a 1,300-meter beam distance, .8 miles. :o :o :o Its battery pack is $99.95.
https://www.olightstore.com/javelot-powerful-long-range-flashlight