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Title: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 15, 2023, 06:45:51 PM
States are extending more and more restrictions.

Illinois is forcing gun and accessory registration.

Gov. of New Mexico declared a health emergency to rescind carry rights.

Gov. of California is calling for a Constitutional Congress to amend the constitution, and his legislators are backing him.

How far are we from the tipping point that leads to grass roots rebellion? Was January 6, 2021 anomaly, or are we seeing the beginning of patriots standing up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNRjt4rCymM
Title: Re: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: Pathfinder on September 16, 2023, 08:48:13 AM
As in all things, it will take a triggering event. As we learned, it best not be a set piece like Jan 6 (what with provocateurs and assholes itching for a fight), but something more organic.

Lots of lessons I doubt we've learned, so we'll make mistakes and re-learn them.
Title: Re: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: alfsauve on September 16, 2023, 08:57:18 AM
As I’ve said bureaucrats and politicians believe that the Constitution can be set aside in an emergency.  We the public have let them do it many times, possibly because we want a big “protector” to save us. We’re paying for this lackadaisical position and are much too deep in the whirlpool to ever pull back.

Politicians and bureaucrats felt really threatened by 1/6 more so than ever in the past. That is why the push to make the penalties so harsh, to quash any future uprisings.

In past assaults on DC the President gave everyone involved pardons, but not this time.
Title: Re: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 16, 2023, 11:23:41 AM
As I’ve said bureaucrats and politicians believe that the Constitution can be set aside in an emergency.  We the public have let them do it many times, possibly because we want a big “protector” to save us. We’re paying for this lackadaisical position and are much too deep in the whirlpool to ever pull back.

Politicians and bureaucrats felt really threatened by 1/6 more so than ever in the past. That is why the push to make the penalties so harsh, to quash any future uprisings.

In past assaults on DC the President gave everyone involved pardons, but not this time.

Makes me think of this:

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.-- H.L. Mencken
Title: Re: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 16, 2023, 11:33:04 AM
As I’ve said bureaucrats and politicians believe that the Constitution can be set aside in an emergency.  We the public have let them do it many times, possibly because we want a big “protector” to save us. We’re paying for this lackadaisical position and are much too deep in the whirlpool to ever pull back.

There is a quote, which I'm not going to take the time to look up right now that paraphrasing says, If we give up freedom for safety and security we deserve neither.
Title: Re: Where is the tipping point?
Post by: Rastus on September 20, 2023, 02:36:55 PM
A while after people start losing their stuff if they have the energy and means to revolt.  But it's OK when it's your neighbor's stuff....

In conquered countries Hitler took away the food and gave people 1,000-1,100 calories a day but they got to keep their stuff because it was useless to their war effort.  Oh some may have lost a car or a truck but that was the rich neighbor who also lost their jewelry or other luxuries.  Hunger didn't do it...they kept waiting for food that never came and did not have the energy or the means to revolt.