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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: shooter32 on September 25, 2008, 03:51:12 AM
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I heard this radio spot yesterday on the local sports radio show.
It was a pro B Ho add. Aproved by him.
The add claims Bo Ho is NOT after our guns ???
And what I can't believe is this is coming from hunters and shooters.
www.huntersandshooters.com
American Hunters and Shooters Association
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I think that is the faux pro 2nd Amendment group that everyone is always warry of around here.
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I think that is the faux pro 2nd Amendment group that everyone is always warry of around here.
A 2nd Amendment group with their head in the sand, or up their a$$.
How can you be a shooter, hunter and not see B Ho and his history on guns ???
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For some people facts don't mean anything.
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Google AHSA and you will find out they are an anti gun group posing as hunters and shooters.
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I think that is the faux pro 2nd Amendment group that everyone is always warry of around here.
Citizens BEWARE of this group.. I have not heard anything positive about them. POSERS!!
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Aren't these the jokers that sleep around with the Brady bunch? Gun culture equivalent of Soviet Spies. >:(
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For some people facts don't mean anything.
Those people are called Obama supporters.
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Has the AHSA ever sponsored a shooting tournament? Event? I never read about them in any gun magazines.
I had heard they are a liberal conservation group, like the Sierra Club, and are promoting the "gun" ownership angle as long as the ATF, FBI, local LEO's know what you own, can come to your house and inventory your "stuff", and register even an old family firearm that doesn't really have any documentation. Which I kind of like it that way, thank you. ;)
They want "unlimited" access to LEGAL gun owners, every gun purchase with a NICS check is relayed to the FBI for "registration", even if its in a database somewhere, its a PRIVACY ISSUE!
They are a sham.
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NRA supports gun owners' rights, not radicals
By JAY PRINTZ
September 8, 2008
The American Hunters and Shooters Association is once again trying to
confuse hunters into believing two bold lies: that the NRA does not
support hunting, and that AHSA and the Sierra Club do.
In a report printed in the Tribune Aug. 22, AHSA makes the ridiculous
argument that NRA is anti hunting because NRA does not support the
same candidates that Sierra Club and other environmental groups
support.
The problem is these groups rate candidates on their radical
environmental record, not on their support for hunting or for gun
owners' rights. In fact, the politicians endorsed by the Sierra Club
are a "Who's Who" of the most anti-gun politicians in American
history. Gun-ban advocates like Barack Obama, John Kerry, Charles
Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Frank Lautenberg, Jack Reed
and Teddy Kennedy have been endorsed by the Sierra Club.
Since Teddy Kennedy wants to ban almost all ammunition used by hunters
in America, it is impossible to see how the Sierra Club is supporting
hunters by endorsing him.
Groups like the Sierra Club rate lawmakers on many issues that have
nothing to do with hunters or hunting, and do not rate on some issues
that do. While the Sierra Club supports massive set-asides of land
under wilderness designations, it fails to consider hunter access to
these lands.
Wilderness designations often create problems for hunters because they
do not provide for methods of access needed to actually use the land
for hunting, since all improvements ? including roads, trails and
other changes ? are prohibited.
Such designations also prohibit programs to provide food and water to
wildlife during times of drought. These policies are hardly good for
hunters. Neither is Sierra Club support for anti-gun politicians who
would end gun shows, ban guns and ammo, and support gun registration
and gun licensing.
NRA knows that without our Second Amendment rights, Americans will
lose our firearms to radical politicians like Obama. And without the
right to own firearms, our hunting tradition will not survive. With
this report, AHSA has made one thing perfectly clear: it is willing to
sacrifice Second Amendment rights ? and in the end, hunting in America
? on the altar of its radical anti-gun agenda.
On the other hand, the NRA Political Victory Fund grades candidates
first and foremost on their position on the protection of the Second
Amendment, but also on their positions in support of issues relating
to hunters.
These issues include access to hunting lands, proper scientific
management of game species, and expanding opportunities for hunters
and hunting.
NRA is also one of the most effective advocates for issues that truly
impact hunters. Over the decades, NRA has worked hard at the federal
and state level to protect and enhance our hunting heritage. NRA
worked to reform federal law on migratory bird hunting. We have fought
to keep federal lands open to hunting, to open more federal lands for
hunters, and to protect conservation reserve programs that provide
vital habitat for game species.
In the states, NRA has worked for passage of youth hunting programs,
for no-net-loss bills that ensure the amount of public land available
to hunters is not diminished, and for increased hunter access plans
like Open Fields and walk-in programs. AHSA has done none of this.
AHSA claims it is promoting "conservation," but in truth, the groups
it is endorsing are radical environmental groups. For these groups,
hunting is either not a factor at all, or, at best, something to be
endured but not promoted. In fact, these groups oppose hunting if it
interferes with their radical agenda, as it did when it came to
listing polar bears as endangered and banning the importation of polar
bear trophies.
AHSA knows its report is phony, which is why it never lists any of the
anti-gun politicians it is attacking NRA for not supporting. But for
AHSA to mislead gun owners and hunters is nothing new. AHSA claims to
be pro-gun, but in reality, they are not.
AHSA was created with the specific intent to provide political cover
for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a
"sportsmen's" group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA's
leadership are well documented.
In 2000, AHSA President Ray Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun
Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke
Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign.
Former AHSA board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop
Handgun Violence, and has recently unveiled a new anti-gun billboard
in Massachusetts attacking gun shows with misleading and untrue
claims. And one of the leading organizers, and current executive
director, of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has been a paid expert witness
against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits.
AHSA is a front group for left-wing zealots who want to fool sportsmen
into voting for anti-gun candidates by lying to them about the issues.
That is why AHSA has endorsed Obama and his extreme anti-gun views.
That is why AHSA is now attacking NRA for failing to endorse men and
women who would end most gun ownership in America, including the guns
used by hunters. NRA members, and everyone who really cares about our
hunting tradition, should be reassured that NRA does not, and will not
ever, endorse the vast majority of radical anti-gun zealots regularly
supported by the Sierra Club and AHSA.
Jay Printz is retired sheriff of Ravalli County and a member of the
nation board of directors of the National Rifle Association.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-09/msg01141.html
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Thanks Haz,
Just another reason to make sure we all vote!!!
Like MB said on Down Range Radio #77 if know someone who isn't or has never voted, GET them to VOTE!!!!
If you don't vote, you can't BITCH ;D
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Thanks Haz,
Just another reason to make sure we all vote!!!
Like MB said on Down Range Radio #77 if know someone who isn't or has never voted, GET them to VOTE!!!!
If you don't vote, you can't BITCH ;D
I am the NRA, and I vote!!
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I dipped into the rent money to renew my NRA membership, and I will be late for work on election day.
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Anticipating a huge bailout from our loving government, I went ahead and put Life Membership on a credit card.
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Ordered this shirt along with paying off the Life Membership
(https://secure.nraila.org/images/bittershirtlr.jpg)