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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Big Frank on November 28, 2024, 03:32:30 AM
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I'm watching Teacup on Peacock and just saw a guy rest the muzzle of a rifle on the ground, then lean of the butt to take a break. I wouldn't want to be next to him when he pulls the trigger. I like bananas, but I don't like barrels that look like banana peels. BTW, episode 2 had the nastiest, goriest, weirdest in every sense of the word, thing that I've seen on TV or steamed in a long time. Of course I had to rewind it and see it again. I guess the show sticks to the book Stinger about 1% and the other 99% is nothing like it. You know the deal, "Based on a story by...", but not really.
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TV shows never cease to amaze me for their stupidity.
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Sometimes you may think you've seen the ultimate act of stupidity, but soon realize it wasn't even the penultimate act.
I'm used to seeing people flagging each other and other bad gun handling. And shotguns that make one person fly across the room and out a window, but the other person doesn't budge an inch. And bullets making sparks whenever they hit practically anything, glass, metal, you name it. But being used to it doesn't mean I like any of it. Another one is the nearly endless higher than high-capacity clipazine. I saw on Day of the Jackal a few days ago where a woman cop was shooting an AR variant at the Jackal after he dove into the water. A 30 round mag must have lasted 30 seconds or more on full-auto. IRL it would last less than 2 1/2 seconds. And the Minigun in Predator that kept going and going when a 1,000 round ammo can would actually last 10 seconds, not a minute or whatever it was. And on the topic of Minguns, some people think the gun has to spin up to full speed before it starts shooting, when in reality it fires when the barrels rotate 60 degrees.
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I'm getting more irritated with the number of characters who evidently carry with an empty chamber. I know. I know. It makes good drama to draw your weapon and rack the slide. Especially good Foley action. (Sound effect)
But then.
Part of me wonders if the directors do understand and they're championing for empty chamber carry by showing it so much.
Then again, I wonder.
Do some departments encourage or require that. I see on one show the detectives take the guns, in the holsters, off and put them in their desk drawer while in the precinct. Is that real life in some places? Or again that just makes good show?
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It's really stupid to carry a shotgun with an empty chamber, especially when it only has a 4 round mag. It's only 80% loaded. A high-cap pistol isn't bad in comparison, other than being even slower to get into action. At least with the shotgun both hands are where they need to be instead of just one hand on a pistol.
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I always get crap when i am watching a western that is set in 18XX and I point out that gun was not even made yet.
I know, I know, artistic license, but if you are going to make a period piece, at least use the right stuff.
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I don't watch many cowboy movies, but I have seen Colt revolvers and Winchester rifles being used a decade or 2 before they were invented. It happens more often than not, but what do you expect when so many movies are made by anti-gunners?
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How about a Henry Big Boy used in a post civil war movie? I turned it off after seeing that. ::) ::)
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How about a Henry Big Boy used in a post civil war movie? I turned it off after seeing that. ::) ::)
The wrong Henry rifle. :) Someone probably saw "Henry rifle" in the script then gone to the gun store and bought it. "Oh, I know where to get a Henry rifle." ;)
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Having produced and directed plays, sometimes bad gun handling is what’s called for by the situation. Wrong era guns I can’t defend unless it’s a sci-if time travel movie.
An example of bad gun handling and directorial thought process. I was prop master for a stage play at the Alliance and had these issues come up. Rural setting circa 1998. Man owns small wholesale warehouse for fertilizer. Hires alcoholic son-in-law as night guard as favor for his daughter. What gun should he give the son? What model should the gun be? What are the gun handling and safety skills of the son?
If you’re curious. Of course the script calls for the drunk to have a gun, but the reason is the father is trying build the kid’s confidence up and show the SIL that he is trusted. The irony is nobody, in this rural setting, is going to steal anything from the warehouse. It’s a make work job.
Now the director wanted the gun to be a G17 because she thought the audience would recognize it. I opted for a well worn, I mean really well worn nickeled plated revolver, in a crude flap holster. Sure the father wants the kid to feel good himself, but he isn’t giving him anything of value. The father basically Barney Fifed the kid. JThe kid is set up to be depressed and attempt suicide.
Gun handling? The antithesis of all that’s sacred. Had the kid twirling it in one scene. Using it as a pointer in another. Cringe away.
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That's excusable, Alf, but most bad gun handling is just bad gun handling.
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The episode of Walker, Texas Ranger where he's going up against an implied JFK assassin. "75 yards on a moving target, only one person I know coulda made that shot and you were home in bed last night, right?"
Let's just say ANY TV gun-talk with rare exception.
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The episode of Walker, Texas Ranger where he's going up against an implied JFK assassin. "75 yards on a moving target, only one person I know coulda made that shot and you were home in bed last night, right?"
Let's just say ANY TV gun-talk with rare exception.
Lots of people make those shots every November in Michigan. ::)
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Lots of people make those shots every November in Michigan. ::)
Yeah, I used to know people who didn't even need a rifle, could make 75 Moving with pistols. But hey, it SOUNDED scary for the Average Mouthbreathing TV Watcher of the 1990s, amirite?
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Remember the TV detective show CANNON? In one scene the main character played by William Conrad is under fire from a guy on a mound of junk about 100 yards away and maybe 50' up a hill. Cannon whips out his .38 Special snubby and fires off a shot which drops the bad guy. The young ingenue asks, "Did you kill him?" To which Cannon replies, "No. Only winged him."
You just don't get that sort of reality in today's TV cop shows.
Crusader Rabbit
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Remember the TV detective show CANNON? In one scene the main character played by William Conrad is under fire from a guy on a mound of junk about 100 yards away and maybe 50' up a hill. Cannon whips out his .38 Special snubby and fires off a shot which drops the bad guy. The young ingenue asks, "Did you kill him?" To which Cannon replies, "No. Only winged him."
You just don't get that sort of reality in today's TV cop shows.
Crusader Rabbit
1950's sixgun with 99 bullets type of "reality". I remember those old westerns.
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1950's sixgun with 99 bullets type of "reality". I remember those old westerns.
The good guys never needed to reload. Those were some magic times, brother.
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The good guys never needed to reload. Those were some magic times, brother.
I often lose track of the story line county shots out of revolvers.
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Here's the secret of the 100-shot "six-gun". ;D
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I'm watching the 2021 movie, The Protégé. A woman was shot with a shotgun and flew 10' across the room. Then Sam Jackson was shot, flew 10' across the room into the wall, and was slam dunked in a bathtub. By a shotgun that not only didn't send the shooter flying across the room in the opposite direction, it didn't have any recoil at all. I can suspend my disbelief during a science fiction movie where a spaceship is traveling faster than light when that's the only way people are going to end up where they do. But recoilless guns making people fly across rooms in the present time on Earth, uhn-uh.
I remember seeing a few minutes of an infomercial Maggie Q was on. She didn't know why she used to feel bloated all the time. And thought it was normal to only have a BM twice a week, or once every two weeks, something stupid like that. But the people who make these movies are more full of $#@! than she ever was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSqa0a3mGk8
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I'm watching The Suicide Squad (2021), not Suicide Squad (2016), and a few of the guys are in the back of a paddy wagon and overpower the guards. Then one of them blasts a hole through the wall of the cargo area and the cab of the truck with a shotgun. It must have a 6-8" spread from 3-4" away. So, at 50 yards would it have a 100 yard spread? ::) The "cone of death" would be twice as wide as a Claymore mine, made with a shaped charge to make it spread. It wouldn't cut out perfect cookie cutter holes at any distance like it did the truck.
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Same movie. Now 2 guys standing side by side are shot with a shotgun. A hole bigger than a dinner plate was carved out in the middle.