Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tt11758 on September 29, 2008, 10:23:26 AM
Title: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tt11758 on September 29, 2008, 10:23:26 AM
Obama Wants NRA Ads Banned
Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:10 PM
By: Newsmax staff The Obama camp has been threatening television and radio stations to keep them from airing anti-Obama ads. The latest target is the NRA and stations in Pennsylvania.
Earlier this week, the National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund released a series of radio and television spots to educate gun owners and sportsmen about Barack Obama's longstanding anti-gun record. In response to the NRA-PVF ads, a clearly panicked Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) are doing everything they can to hide Obama's real record by mounting a coordinated assault on the First Amendment.
They have gone to desperate and outrageous lengths to try to silence your NRA by bullying media outlets with threats of lawsuits if they run NRA-PVF's ads.
The Obama camp is particularly angry with an NRA ad entitled "Hunter" which lays out Obama's record on gun control.
You can see the "Hunter" ad —
Other NRA ads include "Way of Life" and another focusing on Joe Biden's record, "Defend Freedom, Defeat Obama."
This week, Obama's campaign general counsel Bob Bauer wrote seeking to censor the ads at stations in Pennsylvania.
"Unlike federal candidates, independent political organizations do not have a 'right to command the use of broadcast facilities,'" Bauer writes. "Moreover, you have a duty 'to protect the public from false, misleading or deceptive advertising.'"
"This advertising is false, misleading, and deceptive," Bauer continued. "We request that you immediately cease airing this advertising."
The NRA says Obama's camp are sending out these "intimidating cease and desist letters" to cable operators and television stations, threatening their FCC licenses if they run the ads.
The NRA charged that "Obama and the DNC have been using strong-arm tactics reminiscent of Chicago machine politics to try and cover up the truth and silence NRA by forcing the stations to assist them in hiding Obama's radical anti-gun record."
And now, Obama and the DNC have opened a new front in their assault on your First Amendment rights by calling on their followers to contact these station managers to demand that the stations not run NRA-PVF's ads.
NRA stands behind the accuracy of these ads, and NRA attorneys have responded to the Obama campaign's despicable and abusive attempt to trample on the First Amendment by sending a thorough rebuttal to station managers. This rebuttal clearly and conclusively refutes the Obama campaign's fallacious claims that the ads are inaccurate.
The NRA has set up a Web site detailing its position on Obama at www.gunbanobama.com.
A copy of the NRA's letter to station, written by its counsel Cleta Mitchell, follows below:
MEMORANDUM
CLIENT-MATTER NUMBER 999100-0130 TO: Station Managers
FROM: Cleta Mitchell, Esq. Counsel to National Rifle Association
DATE: September 25, 2008
RE: Documentation for Advertising by National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund ("NRA-PVF")
This firm serves as counsel to the National Rifle Association (“NRA”) and the National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund ("NRA-PVF"), which is the federal political action committee of the NRA and the sponsor of certain advertising purchased and soon-to-be purchased on your station. It has come to my clients’ attention that the Obama for President campaign is engaging in an effort to prevent or stop the airing of certain ads by NRA-PVF, falsely alleging that the ads are ‘inaccurate’. The Obama presidential campaign apparently relies on an article appearing in the Washington Post on September 23, 2008 to support its contention hat the NRA-PVF ads should not be aired.
The Washington Post is hardly an objective news source on any subject related to the issues to which the NRA is dedicated, having spent decades attacking not only the NRA but also fighting against the legislation and policies NRA supports to protect the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, as well as supporting every conceivable government proposal or policy any officeholder or candidate suggests to weaken and disrupt the guarantees of the Second Amendment. It is therefore no surprise that the Washington Post would now attack the NRA for advertisements which truthfully disclose the anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment record of Barack Obama, the candidate supported by the Washington Post.
Attached please find the point-by-point refutation of the Washington Post’s article about the NRA-PVF ads regarding Obama’s record on the Second Amendment, as well as an article disclosing the bias of the decidedly not neutral “FactChecker” on which the Washington Post article is ostensibly based.
The NRA devotes 100% of its time and resources to protecting the Second Amendment and fighting for government policies and legislation furtherance of the rights of the American people to keep and bear arms.
The legislative and policy record of candidates and officeholders such as Barack Obama are well known and documented by the NRA on an ongoing basis. NRA-PVF’s advertising during the 2008 election cycle is based on that extensive research and documentation, which is being furnished to you with this Memorandum.
Accordingly, we respectfully request that your station disregard the shamefully false assertions from the Obama campaign and its attorneys regarding the NRA-PVF ads and that the ads run in accordance with the purchase(s) made by NRA-PVF in the media buy.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: Hazcat on September 29, 2008, 10:37:11 AM
YES! Fire back at them and prove them to be the lyers we know them to be.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: shooter32 on September 29, 2008, 10:46:39 AM
Yes, Can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen! GO NRA!!!
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 29, 2008, 11:58:01 AM
Having read most of the list of votes, speeches and organizations from Obama that were used to make up the list of charges from the NRA, I don't know how the Obama camp can call it a lie with a straight face. Do they not realize that every vote he has made is public record, and since long before he decided to dable in politics they have been recording speeches?
Wasn't it in 2000 we learned that one group's plan is to either win in the voting booth or in the court. Doesn't matter which, just so long as they win.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: ericire12 on September 29, 2008, 12:11:00 PM
Change = Destroying your 2nd Amendment rights through suppression of your 1st Amendment rights
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 29, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
Threatening with action through governmental agencies. Loss of a license to do business by an action of an agency if you step on our toes. Reminds me of the bullies in school that never did thier own dirty work. They were followed around by a bunch of goons that were their real muscle.
As much as I hate to see the whole hearings and such, at what point does someone call a spade a spade and call for an investigation for this type of action. What happens now if the Outdoor channel faces loss or suspension of license and it can be traced back to this?
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tt11758 on September 29, 2008, 01:36:51 PM
Just a little preview of the Fairness Doctrine if B-HO gets elected.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: ellis4538 on September 29, 2008, 01:44:30 PM
I want Obama banned! How do I go about that? Besides voting for Mc Cain?
Richard
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 29, 2008, 02:10:11 PM
We need more groups with the people behind them to stand up and state the facts about Mr. Obama and the DNC. No body needs to make anything up or get overly emotional. All we need to do is quote their official printed stance and agenda, and bring forth years of voting records and speeches.
We all need to read the facts behind his claims. When he says he is going to role back the tax cuts we have received he did not lie. However, now he says he is only going to role back on "millionaires." What he is not saying in speeches is that his official stance is that he will let the cuts to EVERYONE expire soon. This is only one of many issues where he is not telling the entire truth. We all know about his talking points on guns, and we know the facts (thanks to the NRA) on he beliefs about guns. These less than the full truth speeches he makes are the reason he can't talk in public without a teleprompter. He knows what he does not want to say in a speech, but without the teleprompter he can't come up with the words to dance around the full truth.
Education will defeat Mr. Obama and his crew. We need to learn how to debate with our friends and neighbors on what he really means when he leaves three-fourths of the facts out of his public comments. Everything is out there to know, we just need to do our homework and pull it out of the back corners.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: CJS3 on September 29, 2008, 05:48:58 PM
Democrats have now moved into the realm of National Socialism.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 30, 2008, 12:39:16 AM
Democrats have now moved into the realm of National Socialism.
NAZI's >:(
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on September 30, 2008, 12:48:19 AM
Thanks to all you guys.. You help me in more ways than you know.. #1..gives me a place to go with people who are like minded..(helps my political stress) #2.. gives me so much added fuel to verbally fight the Liberals in this small county.
( Republicans are the majority..but there are Liberals crawling out from under every rock that seem to want to crawl in bed with the Muslim...)
You guys are the best.. (http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/hug.gif)
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 30, 2008, 12:55:16 AM
Glad to help ;D
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: twyacht on September 30, 2008, 05:51:04 AM
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: TAB on September 30, 2008, 06:24:11 AM
You know, I hope they actually do sue the NRA.
The way I see it, one of two things is going on:
1 idle threats...which I can't stand form anyone.
2 they actually have a valid legal angle against the NRA. ( which given the complex nature of campign laws at the state and federal level, they could have one.)
I give it a 50/50 on which one it is. The way I see it, which ever party is at fualt needs to be punished and I hope they are to the fullest extent of the law.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: twyacht on September 30, 2008, 06:35:08 AM
2 they actually have a valid legal angle against the NRA. ( which given the complex nature of campign laws at the state and federal level, they could have one.)
I give it a 50/50 on which one it is. The way I see it, which ever party is at fualt needs to be punished and I hope they are to the fullest extent of the law.
Considering the foreign money secretly flooding into the BHO campaign,... which I'm "sure" is compliant with campaign fundraising rules, and the 529 groups that are flooding the airwaves for and against BOTH parties,.. I say good luck in that lawsuit. But lawyers are involved so it will be another expensive screw up. Link to campaign contrib. http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: ericire12 on September 30, 2008, 08:54:13 AM
Thanks to all you guys.. You help me in more ways than you know.. #1..gives me a place to go with people who are like minded..(helps my political stress) #2.. gives me so much added fuel to verbally fight the Liberals in this small county.
( Republicans are the majority..but there are Liberals crawling out from under every rock that seem to want to crawl in bed with the Muslim...)
You guys are the best.. (http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/hug.gif)
You are wasting your breath.... especially when you are talking to one of those close minded Obama worshipers....... But I am like you, I enjoy a good mental sparing match.... usually because I can undress most any argument and talk people into proving my case ........ My wife was a nationally ranked debater when she was in college, so I had to learn very quickly in our marriage how to match wits with her if I ever wanted to get my way.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: Hazcat on September 30, 2008, 09:18:48 AM
Ya gotta read this. One of UMMM UHHHs 'truth squad' is complaining about the report of their tatctics.
Actually, the NRA ought to use this dust-up to produce ANOTHER ad.
Grizzle Bear
President James Madison wrote the Bill of Rights while President.
How about a poster style ad with President Madison with a sad look and maybe a tear on the cheek and one of Mr. Obama's campain bumper stickers (unaltered) across his mouth.
A simple caption telling who the men are, and a statement about the Obama campaign trying to take away the NRA's First Amendment Right of free speech to squelch their exposure of the facts of Mr. Obama's history.
This ad could be rolled out on television with no sound - just the caption to read to emphasize the silencing of the truth, and on radio it could be an introduction in word, followed by "dead air," ending with an anouncement that "you have just heard the wishes of Mr. Obama enforced on the NRA in an attempt to take away their Right of Free Speech for exposing us to the facts of Mr. Obama's stance in many political areas.
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: ericire12 on September 30, 2008, 09:49:54 AM
President James Madison wrote the Bill of Rights while President.
How about a poster style ad with President Madison with a sad look and maybe a tear on the cheek and one of Mr. Obama's campain bumper stickers (unaltered) across his mouth.
A simple caption telling who the men are, and a statement about the Obama campaign trying to take away the NRA's First Amendment Right of free speech to squelch their exposure of the facts of Mr. Obama's history.
This ad could be rolled out on television with no sound - just the caption to read to emphasize the silencing of the truth, and on radio it could be an introduction in word, followed by "dead air," ending with an anouncement that "you have just heard the wishes of Mr. Obama enforced on the NRA in an attempt to take away their Right of Free Speech for exposing us to the facts of Mr. Obama's stance in many political areas.
You think the American people sheep know who the hell James Madison is?
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 30, 2008, 10:05:07 AM
I'm not sure the sheeple know what the Bill of Rights is!!!
However, lowered expectations is not the way to improve anyone or anything. I also tend to forget that not everyone is willing to do some research to learn something (maybe that is because the average reading comprehension level in this Country is below fifth grade), but I keep thinking (dreaming) that someone will try to make an informed vote. Ooooops ... This is the Country where we don't expect people to know how to follow instructions to vote isn't it :'(
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: blackwolfe on September 30, 2008, 08:21:10 PM
Democrats have now moved into the realm of National Socialism.
There was once another politician in a country that was in deep economic turmoil following a war. This politician was a great orator, held by the people as a savior of the country, who was going to change things This politcian stifled his opponets by any means. This politician implemented gun control taking firearms from the population. This politcian also filled German stadiums with throngs of sheeple. The sheeple got change.
I have to run now the brown shirts are kicking in the door.
Wolfe
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tt11758 on October 01, 2008, 11:37:30 AM
Thanks to all you guys.. You help me in more ways than you know.. #1..gives me a place to go with people who are like minded..(helps my political stress) #2.. gives me so much added fuel to verbally fight the Liberals in this small county.
( Republicans are the majority..but there are Liberals crawling out from under every rock that seem to want to crawl in bed with the Muslim...)
You guys are the best.. (http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/hug.gif)
We're always here for ya, T. And we've got your back. ;)
Tom
Title: Re: Obama wants NRA ads banned
Post by: tt11758 on October 01, 2008, 11:38:09 AM