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Title: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 26, 2025, 10:05:36 AM
BREAKING: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15

Published On: April 25, 2025 Updated: April 25, 2025 BY Larry Z

You’re not going to believe who just entered the AR-15 game.
Ready?
Hi-Point.
That’s right.

This rifle is chambered in 5.56, and it’s joined by a pistol variant that comes in both 5.56 and .300 Blackout.

You might be thinking, “Yeah, but what’s the price?”

Get this: MSRP is under $500. Let that sink in. And yes, it still comes with Hi-Point’s famous lifetime warranty.

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https://gunsamerica.com/digest/breaking-hi-points-first-ever-ar-15-nra-2025/

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Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: Big Frank on April 26, 2025, 03:49:23 PM
For that price, you could buy one and toss it in the BACK of a pickup and not worry about devaluing it. It just might become the new go-to truck gun. Everyone will be able to afford at least one of them.
Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 26, 2025, 08:26:43 PM
I know their pistols are the 'butt' of the gun world because of weight and build, but they do run. If their AR runs like the pistols, they may rock the "cheap AR" club back on its heels a bit.
I saw several gun bloggers talking on youtube yesterday and they are waiting to try one out for the reasons you mentioned.
Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: Big Frank on April 26, 2025, 09:16:35 PM
I'd like to see someone with an auto-sear do a burn-down and see how well it fares.

I don't have anything bigger than .22 LR that's blowback operated, except my carbine conversion unit, and it feels a couple pounds heavier than it should be. A blowback pistol in .40 S&W, .45 ACP or 10mm has to be a top-heavy, awkward gun. The 10mm is over 3 pounds and the majority of that's going to be reciprocating mass of the slide. But, like I keep hearing, as heavy and butt-ugly as Hi-Points are, they work.
Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: TAB on April 28, 2025, 08:28:59 PM
I'd like to see someone with an auto-sear do a burn-down and see how well it fares.

I don't have anything bigger than .22 LR that's blowback operated, except my carbine conversion unit, and it feels a couple pounds heavier than it should be. A blowback pistol in .40 S&W, .45 ACP or 10mm has to be a top-heavy, awkward gun. The 10mm is over 3 pounds and the majority of that's going to be reciprocating mass of the slide. But, like I keep hearing, as heavy and butt-ugly as Hi-Points are, they work.

I have one of those....   it takes a little bit more than that to make an ar full auto.   it needs a compatable BCG  most are, but not all.  the hard part is the lower, most are not compatible with the registerable auto sears.( at least for us surfs.)   It needs space for it to sit, and a 3rd hole.    given that they are building these to a very low price point i doubt they milled out the space for it to sit.   the 3rd hole would be easy enough to add, but the extra space really needs to be done on a mill.
Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: Big Frank on April 30, 2025, 02:51:31 PM
I know exactly what it takes what it takes to make an M16 work in full-auto with standard parts, and what makes it different from an AR-15. I should know, after working on literally thousands of M16s, and having drawers full of those parts in the shop. But I've seen drop-in auto sears for AR-15s that were completely different. You don't need to drill a small hole for the full-auto sear pin because it doesn't use one. That function is done by part of the drop-in part assembly, which looks like just a few parts pinned together. That's what I was thinking about, a drop-in auto-sear. I was thinking that but only typed half of it.
Title: Re: Hi-Point’s First-Ever AR-15
Post by: Big Frank on May 01, 2025, 10:48:52 PM
I found a picture of a drop-in auto sear, and illustrations of what it looks like installed in an AR-15, compared to an actual M16 with an auto sear. I think you still need the M16 hammer, trigger, disconnector, selector lever, and bolt carrier. But no third pin hole is needed since there's no M16 auto sear or sear pin. I've seen pictures of various AR-15 clones that don't have a space for the drop-in auto sear to drop into. Those would need to be milled to normal dimensions.