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Title: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: tt11758 on October 09, 2008, 02:05:03 PM
from foxnews.com

NRA Takes Aim at Obama Using Hillary's Words


WASHINGTON -- The National Rifle Association endorsed John McCain for president Thursday, saying McCain "has more than two decades of pro-gun and pro-hunting votes in Congress" and slamming Barack Obama for "his radical record of opposition to our constitutional rights."

The organization also pulled the trigger on a full-page national newspaper ad that revives a mailing in which Hillary Clinton accused Obama of hedging on gun issues.

The Clinton mailing, which was sent during the Democratic primaries, accused Obama of changing his statements on gun issues to  to fit his audience.

"Hillary was right: You can't trust Obama with your guns," says the NRA political action committee's ad, which appears in USA Today on Thursday.

The ad includes a reproduction of Clinton's mailing, which mentioned Obama's comment at an April fundraiser in San Francisco that some small-town voters bitter about lost jobs "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

"We believe that he's trying to fog the issue and confuse the voter, and he says he's for the Second Amendment while he votes to run the firearms industry and the Second Amendment out of business," Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice president, said in an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press.

The PAC has spent at least $2.3 million on anti-Obama efforts, including more than $100,000 on the new ad.

Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand said the senator did not approve the NRA's use of her campaign mailing.

Obama has said people have the right to lawfully bear arms and "there's nothing inconsistent with also saying we can institute some commonsense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago."

"Senator Obama firmly believes that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to bear arms and that he will respect the tradition of gun ownership in this country, which is why he received the endorsement of the American Hunters and Shooters Association," Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor said. The association calls itself a "mainstream group of hunters" and says it supports safe and responsible gun ownership.

Obama endorsed an Illinois handgun ban and supported the D.C. handgun ban. He tried to reconcile his two positions earlier this year.

"I think we have two conflicting traditions in this country," he told Politico. "I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families.

"We also have violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage," he continued. "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measures that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions." 

The NRA, in its endorsement of McCain, said they had differences on some issues. But LaPierre said the organization  would "be foolish to overlook the vast areas of agreement" it has with him.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/09/nra-hillary-right-trust-obama-guns/

Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: SwoopSJ on October 09, 2008, 03:01:08 PM
"Hillary was right: You can't trust Obama with your guns," says the NRA  political action committee's ad, which appears in USA Today on Thursday.

Isn't this one of the signs of the apocolypse?   :o

Swoop


Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: tt11758 on October 09, 2008, 04:49:46 PM
Isn't this one of the signs of the apocolypse?   :o

Swoop




Politics does, truly, make strange bedfellows.
Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: Fatman on October 09, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
Politics does, truly, make strange bedfellows.

You saying Hillary is a guy?
Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: tt11758 on October 10, 2008, 02:42:04 PM
You saying Hillary is a guy?

Could be.  If she were a woman Bill would be spending a little time chasing HER from time to time.
Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on October 10, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
Pow!
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 That one was right in the kisser.
Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: CJS3 on October 12, 2008, 02:34:48 PM
from foxnews.com


"We also have violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage," he continued. "And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measures that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions."



How can something that is illegal be made more illegal by passing more laws. If someone is ignoring current law then passing more laws will do nothing. I would also like to know how it is that children and the mentally ill can own a firearm in Illinois when there are federal laws against it. They obviously can own firearms, why else would you run a background check on them?
Title: Re: NRA Takes Aim At Obama Using Hillary's Words
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 12, 2008, 03:50:02 PM
How can something that is illegal be made more illegal by passing more laws. If someone is ignoring current law then passing more laws will do nothing.

Haven't you every thought the same thing about "Hate Crimes Legislation?" 

I know that as a heterosexual, white, Christian, male, United States citizen I have often felt discriminated against by laws that somehow say I am less worthy and less in need of protection  ???

Do you suppose that some day that great environmentalist, Al Gore, will step up and put us rednecks on the endangered species list, or will they just bring back DDT temporarily to do away with us once and for all.