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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on October 11, 2008, 12:50:12 PM
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A bit more than just yes or no to help scope in why we feel that McCain is may or may not be squandering the election.
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I answer yes on 1, 2, and 3 and that about says it all!!!!!!
Richard
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Talk to any 70+ year old - it is rare they rant & rave & play dirty. It was not part of their generation unless you happened to be Japanese & attacked America or were Nazi's that attacked Europe etc. It must be a highly emotional item & a threat to our homeland & way of life to awaken them (sometimes not recognizing the danger is a problem !!).
If they really knew the true BHo & what his platform is, they may feel differently. Most of the time they are strictly party voting people because that's how they were raised. Issues don't matter - it's the party.
BHo's latest platform is "We can't screw things up any worse!". What a crock of Sh__!
Yes, I do wish McCain would tear BHo apart both in public, his campaign speeches & the debates (at least the last one). It probably will not happen due to his being a 'Gentleman'. Unfortunetely neither will the news media & that is the root of the problem.
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Considering that his Father and Grand Father were both Admirals, and he was a Vn. era Naval Aviator and POW he spent at least 50 years being exposed to the reality of the communist menace. That being said, for him to NOT rip Obama a new bunghole verges on cowardice.
I'm voting for Palin, McCain is just baggage she has to drag along.
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Considering that his Father and Grand Father were both Admirals, and he was a Vn. era Naval Aviator and POW he spent at least 50 years being exposed to the reality of the communist menace. That being said, for him to NOT rip Obama a new bunghole verges on cowardice.
I'm voting for Palin, McCain is just baggage she has to drag along.
Tom, you are spot-on on that one!!
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Tom, you are spot-on on that one!!
I second that comment.
Some people say if you get down with a pig then you join pigs you get mud on you. But I say a liar (BHO) and a Marxist-Socialist must be not go unchallenged. The only people who will say got mud on you are their pigs or your own crowd of elitists....lies & deceit must be vigorously exposed by any means available.
There are way too many people out their who don't get it with anything less than a vigorous defense....or have "you" (not you but those who McCain with their eyes closed) not seen the presidential polls. How else could a lying, Marxist, God-hating, anti-american, gun grabber be a viable candidate for president?
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I hope the lack of interest in this poll is not indicative of the voting trends in a few weeks. We may be in deeper trouble than we think. Let's face it - people are sick & tired of the BS from this election cycle. Everyone I've talked to says they just wish it was over. Nobody's listening anymore & it appears that BHo has won.
My assumption is that we need to fast forward to the election & see what kind of apathy there is.
If you haven't seen the latest video against BHo, try this:
http://tractioncontrol.well-regulatedmilitia.org/
The October Surprise: One of ???
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Talk to any 70+ year old - it is rare they rant & rave & play dirty. It was not part of their generation unless you happened to be Japanese & attacked America or were Nazi's that attacked Europe etc. It must be a highly emotional item & a threat to our homeland & way of life to awaken them (sometimes not recognizing the danger is a problem !!).
If they really knew the true BHo & what his platform is, they may feel differently. Most of the time they are strictly party voting people because that's how they were raised. Issues don't matter - it's the party.
BHo's latest platform is "We can't screw things up any worse!". What a crock of Sh__!
Yes, I do wish McCain would tear BHo apart both in public, his campaign speeches & the debates (at least the last one). It probably will not happen due to his being a 'Gentleman'. Unfortunetely neither will the news media & that is the root of the problem.
Pretty close to my thoughts.
McCain is doing a pretty good job of taking the high road in a society that no longer honors the high road.
Mr. McCain brought a knife to a gun fight - Doesn't matter whether your the better guy or not when your not fighting on the same level.
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Considering that his Father and Grand Father were both Admirals, and he was a Vn. era Naval Aviator and POW he spent at least 50 years being exposed to the reality of the communist menace. That being said, for him to NOT rip Obama a new bunghole verges on cowardice.
I'm voting for Palin, McCain is just baggage she has to drag along.
Pretty close to my thoughts.
McCain is doing a pretty good job of taking the high road in a society that no longer honors the high road.
Mr. McCain brought a knife to a gun fight - Doesn't matter whether your the better guy or not when your not fighting on the same level.
I've never even considered McCain to be conservative. He's more like the "Blue Blood Republicans" of old. If the dems weren't controlled by the new version of the National Socialist, I'd vote for them before the Blue Bloods. As it is, my choices are bad and worse. Yes, I'm well aware of the Libertarian option, but, they can't get enough votes to control a city council, much less the congress or the country.
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I've never even considered McCain to be conservative. He's more like the "Blue Blood Republicans" of old. If the dems weren't controlled by the new version of the National Socialist, I'd vote for them before the Blue Bloods. As it is, my choices are bad and worse. Yes, I'm well aware of the Libertarian option, but, they can't get enough votes to control a city council, much less the congress or the country.
Before you condemn the "Blue blood Republicans" you might want to think about Teddy Roosevelts roots.
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John McCain lost this election before it began. He caters to all the wrong people and has been part of the problem for years! We nominated the wrong guy this time around and all due to backroom backstabbing and political menuevering. George W. Bush just helped him lose because of his policies lately...People are fed up and voting for any change regardless of whether it's defined or just the imaginary kind!
Hell, I'd have probably voted for Huckabee or Romney instead of McCain....I'm writing in my own name or my dog Harley for President and trying to get rid of John Kerry!
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Before you condemn the "Blue blood Republicans" you might want to think about Teddy Roosevelts roots.
The same as Dewey, Nixon, and Ford.
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I've never even considered McCain to be conservative. He's more like the "Blue Blood Republicans" of old. If the dems weren't controlled by the new version of the National Socialist, I'd vote for them before the Blue Bloods. As it is, my choices are bad and worse. Yes, I'm well aware of the Libertarian option, but, they can't get enough votes to control a city council, much less the congress or the country.
I think this is where I am too. We conservatives were taken horrible advantage of and treated like red-headed step children by GW Bush. I remember who he had write the DC vs. Heller opinion, his stand on southern border invaders and other such nonsense.
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John McCain lost this election before it began. He caters to all the wrong people and has been part of the problem for years! We nominated the wrong guy this time around and all due to backroom backstabbing and political menuevering. George W. Bush just helped him lose because of his policies lately...People are fed up and voting for any change regardless of whether it's defined or just the imaginary kind!
Hell, I'd have probably voted for Huckabee or Romney instead of McCain....I'm writing in my own name or my dog Harley for President and trying to get rid of John Kerry!
Don't do that, to vote anything other than Republican is a vote for that Bastard from Ill. (technical term for illegitimate child)
Why would you ever want to get rid of Kerry ? He did such a wonderful job David Lee Roth wrote a song about him.
"Just a gigolo, and every where I go, people know the part I'm playing..."
The same as Dewey, Nixon, and Ford.
I'm not sure what you mean. Dewey lost, Nixon did OK,He actually kept his campaign promises ,in fact we could use that sort of campaigning now, (except the getting caught part ;D ) that's what the socialists are doing, Ford was a good President, He managed a potentially dangerous situation (Nixon ) in a manner that maintained National calm, when it COULD have led to fighting in the streets.
Dewey may have come from an affluent family, (I don't remember) but "Tricky Dick", and Ford were both from working class families.
One thing I have never been able to figure out, Why did women hate Ford so much ?
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Don't do that, to vote anything other than Republican is a vote for that Bastard from Ill. (technical term for illegitimate child)
Why would you ever want to get rid of Kerry ? He did such a wonderful job David Lee Roth wrote a song about him.
Tom, all due respect! My dog Harley IS more of a republican than John McCain and secondly as your aware because you live just north of me, the republican party in Massachusetts is non-existant and no matter how I vote, BHO will get all 12 electoral votes in MA and all of them in Vermont, Maine, Connecticut and Rhode Island! New Hampshire is a toss up!
I personally know five republicans/conservatives in MA. Myself, my wife, my daughter, her boyfriend and my dog Harley, who according to Acorn is more than eligible to vote! He's never registered, he doesn't speak the language and is more than willing to sponge off of his family for sustenance!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Please don't get me started on Kerry or Kennedy, I don't have ability to keep my temper in check!!! >:(
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Tom, all due respect! My dog Harley IS more of a republican than John McCain and secondly as your aware because you live just north of me, the republican party in Massachusetts is non-existant and no matter how I vote, BHO will get all 12 electoral votes in MA and all of them in Vermont, Maine, Connecticut and Rhode Island! New Hampshire is a toss up!
I personally know five republicans/conservatives in MA. Myself, my wife, my daughter, her boyfriend and my dog Harley, who according to Acorn is more than eligible to vote! He's never registered, he doesn't speak the language and is more than willing to sponge off of his family for sustenance!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Please don't get me started on Kerry or Kennedy, I don't have ability to keep my temper in check!!! >:(
I've refused to even GO to that state since I passed through in 2000 on my way back from Ca. only reason I did then was I could not find a bus that went through Vt.
We MUST kill these communist bastards in the election or we will have to kill them in the streets like in 1776, or kiss OUR country good bye .
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We need to be careful with stuff like this. We need to make sure that we are not giving ammunition to the enemy. MB's Blog has already been sited by the media (Yahoo News) with regards to Presidential politics, and it might happen again.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=3204.0
We need to be mindful that there are varmints lurking around this site looking for evidence that gun owners and conservatives have thrown McCain/Palin overboard..... we just need to make sure that we dont add any fuel to the fire, and think about how things we say might look when taken out of context.
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Good reminder!
It is easy to forget that we are not alone. I get busy bantering, teasing, joking and blowing off steam and forget we are not sitting at the bar together. I almost always look at the top of a thread to see who's there. There are times I am the only one, or there are a few of us, but it is rare that you do not see some guests lurking. I also check the upcoming birthday list, and it amazes me how few names I recognize. Then I check them out and find that many are one time posters and sometimes have never posted.
We are not alone!
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CJS3 wrorte "I've never even considered McCain to be conservative. He's more like the "Blue Blood Republicans" of old. If the dems weren't controlled by the new version of the National Socialist, I'd vote for them before the Blue Bloods. As it is, my choices are bad and worse. Yes, I'm well aware of the Libertarian option, but, they can't get enough votes to control a city council, much less the congress or the country."
I agree totally with the part that starts with "If the dems". For the past 20 years or so, I have been either not voting for President or voting for the lesser of two bad choices. This election turns out to be the same. McCains perfromance and proposals are lame. If Obama wasn't so scary in what he represents and the danger he poses to the country, I might have considered him. I voted against Clinton, Gore and Kerry. Now I'll vote Palin/McCain. After this election, I'll probably change from Democrat to Independent. Libertarians don't like what they have to say.
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We need to be careful with stuff like this. We need to make sure that we are not giving ammunition to the enemy. MB's Blog has already been sited by the media (Yahoo News) with regards to Presidential politics, and it might happen again.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=3204.0
We need to be mindful that there are varmints lurking around this site looking for evidence that gun owners and conservatives have thrown McCain/Palin overboard..... we just need to make sure that we dont add any fuel to the fire, and think about how things we say might look when taken out of context.
What I posted falls under the opening paragraphs of the declaration of Independence, and is backed by the historical facts that socialist take overs of formerly free societies are always accompanied by violence, generally started by the socialists and not answered by the anti communists until to late to do any good as one example look at the so called "Russian Revolution" of October 1917, the Czar had abdicated in MARCH, what was over thrown in October was representative govt. The Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Czar, they overthrew the other parties.
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We need to be mindful that there are varmints lurking around this site looking for evidence that gun owners and conservatives have thrown McCain/Palin overboard..... we just need to make sure that we dont add any fuel to the fire, and think about how things we say might look when taken out of context.
Consider that John McCain and Sarah Palin have spent little or no time in the New England states since the primaries!
Who has turned their collective backs on whom?
I'll shut up now....
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Nine to one the people on DRTV say McCain is giving it away.
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;Ddone the math ;D
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Consider that John McCain and Sarah Palin have spent little or no time in the New England states since the primaries!
Who has turned their collective backs on whom?
I'll shut up now....
Sarah Palin is in Laconia this Wednesday.
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Sarah Palin is in Laconia this Wednesday.
Good for you Tom! Tell her I said hello....she reminds me of my wife!
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Good for you Tom! Tell her I said hello....she reminds me of my wife!
Tom...if you happen to see Morgan Fairchild....tell her the same for me.
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Tom...if you happen to see Morgan Fairchild....tell her the same for me.
She's kind of old for me but give her my best as well... ;D
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Sorry to disappoint but I'll be at work on the other side of town :(
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Sorry to disappoint but I'll be at work on the other side of town :(
And less than 8% of the people here seem to have confidence in John McCain's presidential campaign skills....
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That doesn't suprise me. The GOP has distinct lines of seperation right now. The far right, the right, the just right of middle and the fence walkers. We had so many candidates this cycle that it fractured the party down those lines of seperation from the begining.
Every section had a viable candidate in mind and we end up with the guy that is actually falling off the left side of the fence and needed Mrs. Palin to drag him back to the middle. I respect the man for his military career but what he's done since 1980 has been less than impressive. Maybe next time!
It won't take very long for the American public to realize that O'Bama is completely unqualified for the position. Right now, it's all emotion and someone said in another post, if it's below the fold on the front page of the Sunday paper, no one is going to read it.
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That doesn't suprise me. The GOP has distinct lines of seperation right now. The far right, the right, the just right of middle and the fence walkers. We had so many candidates this cycle that it fractured the party down those lines of seperation from the begining.
Every section had a viable candidate in mind and we end up with the guy that is actually falling off the left side of the fence and needed Mrs. Palin to drag him back to the middle. I respect the man for his military career but what he's done since 1980 has been less than impressive. Maybe next time!
It won't take very long for the American public to realize that O'Bama is completely unqualified for the position. Right now, it's all emotion and someone said in another post, if it's below the fold on the front page of the Sunday paper, no one is going to read it.
He has been campaigning front and center on the national stage for how long now? He has had how many"coincidental" controversies pop up now? He is pulling away in all major polls and it is now crunch time...... :-\
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Consider that John McCain and Sarah Palin have spent little or no time in the New England states since the primaries!
We haven't even SEEN a McCain ad on TV in weeks in MD/DC. The local radio stations in DC are 2 to 1 Obama to McCain ads.
It won't take very long for the American public to realize that O'Bama is completely unqualified for the position. Right now, it's all emotion and someone said in another post, if it's below the fold on the front page of the Sunday paper, no one is going to read it.
The "average" voter in this country DOESN"T care if he's QUALIFIED or not. They'll vote for him anyway. There is a slim chance that in the next couple of weeks some of these "voter irregularities" and the other questionable tactics/issues will be reported out by someone but who will see it? The MSM report that? Yeah right. Blogs? The average person doesn't look at them. So other than hearsay and what most people will blow off as political BS how do you convince the "average" voter? Unless Obuma gets arrested for his involvement with Fannie Mae (not illegal), and blocking Saudi and Iraqi peace negotiations (not going to happen) he's got it in the bag almost wilthout McCain or Palin going soft.
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He has been campaigning front and center on the national stage for how long now? He has had how many"coincidental" controversies pop up now? He is pulling away in all major polls and it is now crunch time...... :-\
I meant after (IF) he's elected Eric. Hopefully he'll fall flat on face the first time a real crisis arises and we can get rid of him after his first term or figure out a way to impeach him.
I can't stand this guy either! Just wanted to make that clear!
Tim
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OK...I locked the poll down. Let's wait a bit after tonight's debate and see if we think he improved he methodology.