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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: runstowin on October 12, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
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Perhaps this perverse indoctrination is coming to a school in your neighborhood.
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Trust me, the city is a diffrent country... great place to vist, but I would not want to live there.
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If this kind of public school indoctrination can occur in a school in San Francisco, it can happen in any rural public school in America.
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If this kind of public school indoctrination can occur in a school in San Francisco, it can happen in any rural public school in America.
I have one question for you, whats wrong with them going to a wedding? Besides the entire waste of class time.
I am a big time beleaver in giving kids all the options/arguments/sides on something and letting them make thier own mind up.
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Sorry,
Not at that age!
You are obviously not a parent.
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I have one question for you, whats wrong with them going to a wedding? Besides the entire waste of class time.
I am a big time beleaver in giving kids all the options/arguments/sides on something and letting them make thier own mind up.
Skip the rodeo....take them to a bullfight so they can discern between the different levels of interaction with animals. For that matter,don't describe "good touch bad touch" with dolls...they can figure it out from looking at porno movies.
"My daddy has a boyfriend" shouldn't ever enter kindergarten conversation.
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I have one question for you, whats wrong with them going to a wedding? Besides the entire waste of class time.
I am a big time beleaver in giving kids all the options/arguments/sides on something and letting them make thier own mind up.
I'm a big time believer in keeping my son away from perverts. My job is to be a parent not a facilitator. I don't say to my son lets look at both sides of the illegal drug issue, and if you chooses to take meth then more power to you. I know the difference between right and wrong, it is my job to instill principles that are appropriate in my son's mind, both by what I say, and how I conduct myself.
And yes I am narrow minded and opinionated.
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Skip the rodeo....take them to a bullfight so they can discern between the different levels of interaction with animals. For that matter,don't describe "good touch bad touch" with dolls...they can figure it out from looking at porno movies.
"My daddy has a boyfriend" shouldn't ever enter kindergarten conversation.
what if that is actually true?
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Sorry,
Not at that age!
You are obviously not a parent.
I think its a complete waste of class time, but the question still remains... whats so wrong about exposing children to homosexaul relationships? Homosexuallty can be nature, nuture or a combo of both.
that said I am 100% strait,but I don't have a prob with people wanting to be with the one they love.( I'm talking about adults here.)
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I have one question for you, whats wrong with them going to a wedding? Besides the entire waste of class time.
I am a big time beleaver in giving kids all the options/arguments/sides on something and letting them make thier own mind up.
Tab, you gotta be kidding. Anyone can be taught anything when they are young....they'll believe the moon is made of cheese if you tell them long enough. Buddy, you've been living in the land of no moral absolutes (except absolutely liberal or the liberals will gang up on you like they accuse others of doing) too long.
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Tab, you gotta be kidding. Anyone can be taught anything when they are young....they'll believe the moon is made of cheese if you tell them long enough. Buddy, you've been living in the land of no moral absolutes (except absolutely liberal or the liberals will gang up on you like they accuse others of doing) too long.
Schools should not teach morals... that is the parents job, but I does not bother me that children are exposed to the real world in school.
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Now you know why an increasing number of PARENTS are home schooling. Something california has done it's best to prohibit. This story is just more crap from the land of fruits and nuts.
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Schools should not teach morals... that is the parents job, but I does not bother me that children are exposed to the real world in school.
Schools should not counter the morals parents have chosen to instill in their children. Readin' wrightin' 'rithmatic'. PERIOD!
If YOU don't mind YOUR child being exposed to degenerates that is YOUR business. Don't even THINK that you have any right or duty to impose YOUR depravity on MY child.
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who is to say they are degenerates? after all it was thier teachers wedding.
Like I have said, I think it was wrong and should not have been done, but I want to know why its wrong... what I don't want is "its my kids, I raise them how I want" I want " I think its wrong becuase..."
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Sorry, It IS my child (kids are goats) and I will raise him to my morals.
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haz... so why is it wrong?
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Tab,
What you don't seem to grasp is that I do not have to justify my beliefs. And I will pass those beliefs onto my child the way I want. NO ONE has the right to change that.
Tell me why you think it is right. Tell me why you should even have a say on the up bringing of my child (assuming that he is not starved or beaten and that he does not harm others with out provocation).
What gives you the right to teach my child what you think is right or to decide that my child is ready for such lessons??????
Just WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
It is MY CHILD! Got that now?
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so why is it wrong?
same reason we don't teach religion in public schools. not everybodies beliefs are equal and at this age children are very easily influenced by parents, teachers, etc.. if I want my child taught in a religious school, I send him/her to a private school. I don't think there's any parent that, although they may accept their children being gay, want's them to be taught to be gay. and yes, you immerse them in this kind of environment from the beginning and they can be influenced. teach them to be tolerant yes, but this, >:( I don't think so..
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The problem is that all institutions have a moral point of view, the moral point of view of the public school system happens to be in diametric opposition to mine. It is bad enough that I have to deal with the socialist, entitlement, materialistic, obsessed brats that are far to often the product of this indoctrination. My son is simply to good for that, I think all children are.
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My son is simply to good for that, I think all children are.
+10000
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There is something else I would like to point out... under CA law there needs to be a "permission" slip signed for every single field trip. So unless she broke the law( and this is one of the few things that will get a teacher fired in CA) all of the parents had to approve... or were too dumb to sign something with out reading it.
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I'm being good ;D I'm NOT trashing TAB for his advocating exposing children to DEVIANT sexual practices at an age when a Playboy book in their possession is a CRIME, I'm not insulting him, I'm not even pointing out to him that the Bible says such behavior is an abomination to God. I'll just remind him to make sure his NAMBLA dues are paid and sit here feeling smug about how NICE I'm being.
Got to disagree with TAB's last post though, breaking the law is NOT sure to get a Ca. teacher fired.
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not every one beleaves in the bible. Infact most of the world does not.
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not every one beleaves in the bible. Infact most of the world does not.
You have a valid point there TAB. I don't consider myself a Christian, but I have to ask this. Have you noticed that most of the world including Ca. is F%*KED UP ? Wars, revolutions, plagues (like AIDS) dictatorships, tyranny, oppression.
Makes you wonder don't it ?
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You have a valid point there TAB. I don't consider myself a Christian, but I have to ask this. Have you noticed that most of the world including Ca. is F%*KED UP ? Wars, revolutions, plagues (like AIDS) dictatorships, tyranny, oppression.
Makes you wonder don't it ?
But if you beleave in the bible, then it would just be people having free will... you know the way god intended. If you don't, its just humen nature. So its damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Schools should not teach morals... that is the parents job, but I does not bother me that children are exposed to the real world in school.
This nation was founded on Christian morals. Schools always taught morals...at least up to the 50's and 60's which in no small way coincides with our downward spiral as a nation. It takes a generation to fall...or hadn't you noticed?who is to say they are degenerates? after all it was thier teachers wedding.
Like I have said, I think it was wrong and should not have been done, but I want to know why its wrong... what I don't want is "its my kids, I raise them how I want" I want " I think its wrong becuase..."
God said that homosexuality is a sin in the Bible. You choose not to believe that's OK...you have that free will, but that does not make it right nor does your belief have any bearing on the fact that the last great sin a nation embraces before it falls is homosexuality. Do your own history.not every one beleaves in the bible. Infact most of the world does not.
So? I thought the USA was the greatest nation on earth, why are we not the desireable place we once were...or does that slide in "status" not coincide with drifting away from God? One might only look at the drift of politicians from that of statesmen to the lying dogs they are today.
But if you beleave in the bible, then it would just be people having free will... you know the way god intended. If you don't, its just humen nature. So its damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No it's damned if you do..there is nothing in the Bible about human nature or free will being a defense for sin. The only defense for sin is the blood of Jesus Christ. This is what I believe and this is what is in the Bible. You can believe what you want, that is your free will. Schools have "always" taught solid Christian moral principles as our nation's laws are/were based on the Bible as cited by our Founding Fathers in their writings. Anyone can say otherwise, but that would not be the fact of foundation and would be in conflict with actual letters written by the founders and cited by our leaders throughout the centuries of our existance.
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And to the same Divine Author of every good and perfect gift we are indebted for all those privileges and advantages, religious as well as civil, which are so richly enjoyed in this favored land.
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
Two quotes:
The first one from a man known as the "father of the constitution" and the author of the second amendment, James Madison.
The second from the father of our country, George Washington, from his farewell address.