Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: rojawe on October 18, 2008, 04:54:33 PM
Title: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: rojawe on October 18, 2008, 04:54:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M
just posting for info and utube has many video's on different kinds of safes.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 18, 2008, 05:44:49 PM
Good info. The security of a safe is dependent on several factors. First is safe quality. Then location and attachment is key. A safe needs to be in a tight space with no leverage room and it needs to be secured to the floor or foundation as securely as possible. I know one guy who bought a fairly nice safe and didn't bolt it down. His house was broken into and they took a dolly and stole the whole safe intact. I also know one guy who basically built his gun closet around his safe. It is bolted through the floor to a 1/2 inch steel plate with 3/4" bolts, in a room just barely wide enough to open the door. Mine is bolted in a corner, but I hope to get into a closet after my boys have vacated the premises and freed up a closet.. ;D
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Majer on October 18, 2008, 05:57:47 PM
This is a friends safe that was broken into using the tools in their garage. They gained access to the garage by breaking into their Jeep and using the remote garage door opener. This happened while they were on vacation. About 30 handguns, 15 rifles and some jewelry was lost. The safe company covered most of it but there were some guns stolen that couldn't be replaced.when you install a safe like this make sure it is bolted in place properly. (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/Majer357/ChaChassafe-1.jpg)
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: TAB on October 18, 2008, 06:58:29 PM
Most safes can be opened up in less then 5 mins, by people that have basic heavy construction tools( which can be rented for next to nothing) and knowlegde of thier use. I'm not talking about a torch.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Rastus on October 18, 2008, 07:11:25 PM
Hook the safe and the garage doors to the alarm system.
Stuff the garage with so much junk they can't get to the safe....
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: TAB on October 18, 2008, 07:36:03 PM
Alarms do not work. they are long gone before anyone gets there.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Rastus on October 18, 2008, 07:53:42 PM
Alarms do not work. they are long gone before anyone gets there.
Mine will wake up my armed neighbors.....helps to live in quiet a rural development. Besides....the busy body down the hill will probably want to know why they aren't parking according to covenents......
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: TAB on October 18, 2008, 07:58:58 PM
Good neighbors are way better then any alarm. Most break ins happen during the day. You know, when most people are at work. only the foolish and those that want to hurt people break in to homes at night.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Rastus on October 18, 2008, 08:50:47 PM
And we homeschool...so there is almost always someone at home.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Big Frank on October 18, 2008, 11:44:46 PM
I have some things in my favor; 1. My safe is bolted to the studs of an outside wall on the second story of my house. If they cut the wall open and push the safe out the hole, the noise of it crashing in the driveway should attract some attention. :) 2. It's in a corner with a wall next to the side they need to pry on. Maybe 4" from the wall to the edge of the door. Certainly not 4 feet of room to swing a prybar around in. 3. It's not obvious that I even have a safe when you walk into the room. 4. No matter where I am in the house, awake or sleeping, they have to get past me physically to get to the safe. It's not a panic room but it is my place to retreat to. It's where I will make my last stand if need be. That's why my guns are in that particular room. I can't believe anyone keeps them in a garage. Garages get broke into all the time. 5. NRA Armscare.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: blackwolfe on October 20, 2008, 05:58:53 PM
I was talking to a dealer the other day about one of his cutomers that had a safe stolen. The swine chainsawed the outside wall around the safe, hooked a chain to the safe, pulled it outside through the wall to the back part of his property, where it was loaded up and hauled away. I forgot how big he said it was other than it was an extreamly large safe.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: ericire12 on October 20, 2008, 08:25:25 PM
I was talking to a dealer the other day about one of his cutomers that had a safe stolen. The swine chainsawed the outside wall around the safe, hooked a chain to the safe, pulled it outside through the wall to the back part of his property, where it was loaded up and hauled away. I forgot how big he said it was other than it was an extreamly large safe.
If they can successfully do all that, then they can have it.
Title: Re: How safe is your gun safe
Post by: Big Frank on October 20, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
Since a guy like me can think of the idea of cutting a hole in the wall with a chainsaw and pushing the safe out the hole, it doesn't really suprise me that the bad guys thought of it too. I am a little surprised that they actually did it and got away with it. Now I know I'm not just paranoid about things like that, but being a victim of 6 thefts in 3 years is enough to make anyone paranoid. :(