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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tt11758 on November 07, 2008, 05:39:32 PM
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Holy Crap!!! It's already begun!!!
From the website of the Sioux City (IA) Journal:
PAPILLION, Neb. (AP) -- Two Papillion-La Vista South High School students have been suspended after allegedly using insensitive language about President-elect Barack Obama.
School officials say the juniors made the comments during a social studies discussion of the presidential election. Officials say the students' comments about Obama had racial and religious undertones, but officials declined to detail what, specifically, the students said.
Neither did school officials reveal the names of the students.
Principal Enid Schonewise (SHOW-neh-wise) said the suspension fell under the school district's harassment policy. She says any language considered offensive based on gender, race, religion or ethnicity is not tolerated.
http://siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2008/11/07/news/latest_news/9384d179b64f39bc862574fa0058bd40.txt (http://siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2008/11/07/news/latest_news/9384d179b64f39bc862574fa0058bd40.txt)
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Old news. Not this incident, just the latest. Schools, the center of learning where free expression should be a given, are some of the least free places in this country. Speak your mind and you will be punished - unless the teachers and principal agree with you. Then you can spout off all you want.
Two words: home schooling
expect b-ho and his minions in the NEA to go after them too, real quick. Can't have independent thought now, can we?
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Schools have become the most closed, narrow minded, politically correct, factually incorrect locations on the national real estate.
Academics....
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Old news. Not this incident, just the latest. Schools, the center of learning where free expression should be a given, are some of the least free places in this country. Speak your mind and you will be punished - unless the teachers and principal agree with you. Then you can spout off all you want.
Two words: home schooling
expect b-ho and his minions in the NEA to go after them too, real quick. Can't have independent thought now, can we?
So true. We homeschool. There is a lot I can take, and I have no doubt we are facing an incredible burden with the new regime (not administration) coming in. Taxes, I expect; punitive social laws, I expect; restrictive gun laws, I expect, but messing with my children it is time to fight. My mother is a retired teacher that had to belong to the NEA so I know how twisted the NEA is from what she has told me and what I see in the media. I very much believe that children need to be protected from the NEA and their liberal Gestapo mindset. What price is there to attach to your child having their mind polluted with socialist-marxist thought?
There are a lot of good teachers...so don't blow a gasket on what follows. Teachers do not deserve worship and the ultimate word in raising your child....the parent is the ultimate decision maker in raising up their child. Liberal teachers will tell you how to raise your child if you let them....don't let them. The liberal teacher will not assume any of the blame for a child pregnancy, child drug use, and other aberrant behaviour but will very much leave the parent to pick up the pieces and grade the parent for the failure. A couple of the smartest people I've worked with and for did not have college degrees...so come to grips with this....and some teachers are outright brilliant...but now...and don't blow a gasked OK...teaching is a not tough subject in college...you don't have to be anywhere near an Einstein or Obama to be a teacher....said that now get over it and don't worship or bow down to the next teacher that is telling you how to raise your child. Be bold and unwavering when a liberal teacher shows your child, your spouse, you or your beliefs disrespect and turn the conversation towards exposing their shortcomings. You can win this but...it may come with a price....so what is your child's unpolluted mind worth?
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We thought about private Christian school, public school and home school. We went with public. However, we have the advantage of being in a small town and know all the teachers and administrators. That gives us the ability to oversee our children's education, and if there is an issue we could correct it at home quickly. Over all what we did was raise two children with their eys wide open and able to fight. And, they are both fighters!
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We thought about private Christian school, public school and home school. We went with public. However, we have the advantage of being in a small town and know all the teachers and administrators. That gives us the ability to oversee our children's education, and if there is an issue we could correct it at home quickly. Over all what we did was raise two children with their eys wide open and able to fight. And, they are both fighters!
Excellent. The small town schools are a lot more responsive to individual parent's wishes.
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Schools have become the most closed, narrow minded, politically correct, factually incorrect locations on the national real estate.
Academics....
DUH, what do you expect from socialist indoctrination centers ? When we went to school, back in the REAL US teachers taught you HOW to think, since the socialist infiltrators got control of the NEA they try to teach WHAT to think.
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Excellent. The small town schools are a lot more responsive to individual parent's wishes.
But keep an eye on them anyhow. Sometimes the curriculum is set at the state level, teachers don't have all the say, and most draw from NEA resources just cuz it's easier than developing their own.
Read the text books, especially any of the softer sciences (history etc.), watch how they spin things.
Be involved.
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But keep an eye on them anyhow. Sometimes the curriculum is set at the state level, teachers don't have all the say, and most draw from NEA resources just cuz it's easier than developing their own.
Read the text books, especially any of the softer sciences (history etc.), watch how they spin things.
Be involved.
What is taught as "History" in text books bears very little resemblance to anything on THIS planet.
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History is all about the guy that wrote it... more spin then a DC press confrence.
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But keep an eye on them anyhow. Sometimes the curriculum is set at the state level, teachers don't have all the say, and most draw from NEA resources just cuz it's easier than developing their own.
Read the text books, especially any of the softer sciences (history etc.), watch how they spin things.
Be involved.
The curriculum was not a major issue. We were able to stay on that very easily. The bigger issues came with personal politics coming into the classroom. You ever wonder why every school that does mock elections sees huge victories by certain groups? Go look at what signs are in the teachers' yards!
The other side of the issue is the Christian school faces the same type of prejudice, only it tended to be along our beliefs. I would rather have discussions at home over how to make decisions, and when they are getting one side of the debate at school and the other from us the lessons were easy. I read about a class that had an election, and BHO won by a landslide. However, one child admitted voting for him (changed their vote) because they noticed that the students picking up the ballots were peeking, and the class had been given the "Pro Obama talk." What kind of teaching opportunity does that present at home?
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Two words: home schooling
+1000
I am a single parent, so I do the next best thing, I send my son to a good Christian private school.
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Two words: home schooling
+1000
I am a single parent, so I do the next best thing, I send my son to a good Christian private school.
Sure would be nice if you could get even a partial tax rebate for not putting one's child in a public school. Everyone pays taxes to support schools, but at a minimum it would be cool to get $$$$'s kicked back for the years one's child was in school and out of the public "skoolz" system.
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I have never known a kid that was home schooled to be "well adjusted" There is something to be said about letting children interact.
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I have never known a kid that was home schooled to be "well adjusted" There is something to be said about letting children interact.
OK, Tab, once more - never mind, pointless.
I have known dozens if not hundreds of thoughtful, respectful, well adjusted and very capable kids who were home schooled. Home schooling does not mean isolated and solitary, it is about removing government dogma and indoctrination from our children's lives.
Unless, by "well adjusted", you mean parroting the gummint line. Classic left coast mindset.
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I have never known a kid that was home schooled to be "well adjusted" There is something to be said about letting children interact.
TAB!!! I'm home schooled.. at least for 4 years. it was also better for me because I had less distractions to get my attention away from my studies. I also spent that time 'isolated' because I was on a sailboat in Mex, and Central America. (great way to grow up). home schooling is only as good as the parents that teach the children. I am lucky in that my folks are very independent and I was allowed to do things that other people never get the oportunity to do. (within reason). I am considering home school for my step son because I believe he needs the discipline in his studies that he cannot get in school. like I said, the education that the child recieves is only as good as the parent or teacher that teaches the child.
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i'm just speaking from exp... About 90% of the kids I went to hs with that were home schooled had lots and lots of probs, with social skills. None of them did well in college either( IE, the second they got away from thier parents they went nuts, most droped out or got the boot)
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I also realize that many of these kids are home schooled because they already have issues, a last resort. also we have some freaks that shouldn't have had children to begin with, teaching their kids some really wierd stuff... cult types.
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I also realize that many of these kids are home schooled because they already have issues, a last resort. also we have some freaks that shouldn't have had children to begin with, teaching their kids some really wierd stuff... cult types.
which oddly enough the cult types seem to be the extreme right... just saying.
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which oddly enough the cult types seem to be the extreme right... just saying.
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I have never known a kid that was home schooled to be "well adjusted" There is something to be said about letting children interact.
That is part of why we did not home school. However, there are several children in our community that are home schooled and do very well, and even better than many in traditional settings. The secret is in how the parents handle the social parts of the child's life. A parent can do a good job or they can screw it up, but that is the same with any setting.
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which oddly enough the cult types seem to be the extreme right... just saying.
You mean like the b-ho cult?
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Columbine High School, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold two well adjusted public school students.
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Columbine High School, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold two well adjusted public school students.
Charles Whitman, a well-adjusted student of a public university.
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Sure would be nice if you could get even a partial tax rebate for not putting one's child in a public school. Everyone pays taxes to support schools, but at a minimum it would be cool to get $$$$'s kicked back for the years one's child was in school and out of the public "skoolz" system.
I agree, I am not happy with paying school tuition, and paying taxes to fund the government indoctrination system.
I am also pretty mad about having to deal with the product of government education.
While not universal the norm from my experience is that these indoctrinated ones have almost no knowledge of either American or world history, have limited vocabulary, don't know what spelling is, they do know all about their rights, and about government entitlements.
They also know all about smoking cigarettes, and dope. They know how to pay for tats and piercings. They know all about talking on a cell phone and text messaging, when they are supposed to be working, are good at cussing and making crude remarks, and, oh yes to them work is a four letter word.
Just some modest observations.
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I counted (something I learned in school, back in the old days) W-O-R-K it IS a four letter word. ;D
Want them to learn ? Teach reading, writing, and arithmetic (no calculators) Then make THEM teach you about History and science, that way not only do they learn the subjects but they also learn critical thinking, composition, and research skills
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I counted (something I learned in school, back in the old days) W-O-R-K it IS a four letter word. ;D
Want them to learn ? Teach reading, writing, and arithmetic (no calculators) Then make THEM teach you about History and science, that way not only do they learn the subjects but they also learn critical thinking, composition, and research skills
At my son's private Christian school the students average at the 80th percentile on SATs.
Unfortunately they don't have time at his school to learn how to safely fornicate and such.