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Title: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Dharmaeye on November 18, 2008, 10:14:22 PM

  “This is no laughing matter,” Krause said.  “The cow tax and the pig tax are parts of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act.”

http://www.wyfb.org/NewsFeeds.aspx?file=Links/NWS281b9276fe1f.htm&ID=530&from=front
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: runstowin on November 18, 2008, 10:24:08 PM
We the people better get up to speed and get rid of the EPA.
I am by the way religiously  vegan, I eat animals that ate vegetables, and I promote the releasing of CO2 into the atmosphere, plants need it to grow.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Fatman on November 18, 2008, 10:25:01 PM
I'm helping end the methane problem, without taxes. You can, too. Eat more livestock.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 12:53:07 AM
I'm helping end the methane problem, without taxes. You can, too. Eat more livestock.

I'm doing my part. When I went to Burger King a couple days ago and got a Whopper I made sure it was a triple with cheese.  :D  I help eliminate those methane producing cows 3 times faster. If I knew pigs were a problem too I would have got double bacon on it. Oh, well. I still have several coupons for Wendy's. Buy 1 get 1 free = death to the methane producers.

P.S. Manure makes great fertilizer for plants that take carbon out of the atmosphere and sequester it so it's never in the air again.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2008, 08:01:47 AM
Deepwater, Haz Jr and I all had steak last night so we are holding up our end of solving this problem. ;D
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: tumblebug on November 19, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
 BEEF the best........................... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: ericire12 on November 19, 2008, 09:58:24 AM
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p.s. I'm going deer hunting this afternoon.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: shooter32 on November 19, 2008, 10:16:31 AM
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p.s. I'm going deer hunting this afternoon.

Good luck E.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2008, 10:18:38 AM
E,

Here's wishing you a BBG!  ;D
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 10:24:11 AM
Mmmmmm, murrrder.  :P  I'm going to eat at a German restaurant today. They don't know how to cook a steak, so the cows are safe for now. I might eat a chicken or two instead.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2008, 10:43:07 AM
Mmmmmm, murrrder.  :P  I'm going to eat at a German restaurant today. They don't know how to cook a steak, so the cows are safe for now. I might eat a chicken or two instead.

Yeager Schnitzle (pounded veal in mushroom gravy) with Spatzle (noodles), YUM!
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 11:05:22 AM
Yeager Schnitzle (pounded veal in mushroom gravy) with Spatzle (noodles), YUM!

Schnitzel is actually a pig's butt unless you get Viener schnitzel, then it's veal. They don't make very good ham in Germany so they slice the pig's butt thin, pound it, bread it and fry it. Yum indeed.

I get two free chicken dinners in October for my birthday, one at each of two restaurants, and my mom gets two in November so we eat out 4 times. I went into the place across the street from this one last week thinking I was going to have jaeger schnitzel, my favorite meal of all time, but instead I got the BAVARIAN COMBINATION PLATE; Kasseler Rippchen (Smoked Pork Loin), Schnitzel (Breaded Loin of Pork), and Sauerbraten (Marinated Beef) with Potato Cheese Puffs, Baked Dressing, and Sauerkraut. The meat was, as my ex used to say, as tender as your eye. It was darned tasty too. No vegan meals for me.

They have a wusrt combination plate and some other goodies like that too but are famous for all you can eat family style chicken dinners will all the trimmings. The buttered noodles have crumbled cheez-it crackers or something like that on them. Every dinner comes with home-made bread and jam and chicken noodle soup and a few salads as appetizers. 3 hours until I go stuff myself again. I can hardy wait.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2008, 11:08:49 AM
Schnitzel is actually a pig's butt unless you get Viener schnitzel, then it's veal. They don't make very good ham in Germany so they slice the pig's butt thin, pound it, bread it and fry it. Yum indeed.

I get two free chicken dinners in October for my birthday, one at each of two restaurants, and my mom gets two in November so we eat out 4 times. I went into the place across the street from this one last week thinking I was going to have jaeger schnitzel, my favorite meal of all time, but instead I got the BAVARIAN COMBINATION PLATE; Kasseler Rippchen (Smoked Pork Loin), Schnitzel (Breaded Loin of Pork), and Sauerbraten (Marinated Beef) with Potato Cheese Puffs, Baked Dressing, and Sauerkraut. The meat was, as my ex used to say, as tender as your eye. It was darned tasty too. 3 hours until I go stuff myself again. I can hardy wait. No vegan meals for me.

They have a wusrt combination plate and some other goodies like that too but are famous for all you can eat family style chicken dinners will all the trimmings. The buttered noodles have crumbled cheez-it crackers or something like that on them. Every dinner comes with home-made bread and jam and chicken noodle soup and a few salads as appetizers.

Can ya get me a 'to go'?  ;D
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 11:11:51 AM
Can ya get me a 'to go'?  ;D

Yep. That'll be $20.99 plus tip and shipping. It's getting down to 29 degrees here tonight so it should still be good if I overnight it.  ;)
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: shooter32 on November 19, 2008, 12:16:07 PM
Yep. That'll be $20.99 plus tip and shipping. It's getting down to 29 degrees here tonight so it should still be good if I overnight it.  ;)

You guys are making this kraut hungry ;D
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2008, 12:26:11 PM
You guys are this kraut hungry ;D

I'll have you know I'm half KRAUT!  ;D
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: shooter32 on November 19, 2008, 12:27:58 PM
I'll have you know I'm half KRAUT!  ;D

100% for me. Just wish I could speak it :-[
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: nupe on November 19, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
This is abosolutly retarded  >:(.  Before my father, my family's main income has been farming and ranching. Now my dad and my uncle still ranch, but they have to also work steady paying jobs to make a decent living since we don't have a big enough ranch to bring in enough income.  Plus the only reason that I'm going to college is so I can save up enough money to buy my own land, equipment, and add on to my herd.  So if this thing goes through that means that I would have to work a steady paying job for longer before I would be ranch full time.  That is if I would be able to at all, because I'm pretty sure that most of the small, private ranches would probably be put out of buisness.  And do these people think that if they can shut down ranches that livestock will simply quit reproducing and "releasing harmfull gasses."  :P   Sorry that just gets on my nerves,  thanks for letting me vent.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 05:03:09 PM
Message for HazMat the Psychic Cat  ;)

Today's dinner was Pan Fried Pork Schnitzel with Wild Forest Mushrooms - Tender slices of pork loin dusted with flour, pan-fried to a golden brown and topped with wild forest mushroom gravy, and melt-in-your-mouth oh-so-yummy buttered spaetzle (German egg dumplings) in chicken broth. In other words, Jaeger Schnitzel and spaetzel, just like you said, Haz. I didn't even know they had that on the menu!!! One of the mushrooms was a Morel. I believe it's the only one I've ever had in my whole life. I decided to pass on this month's special, roasted half duckling for it. So, somewhere there's a pig with 3 slices missing, and if anyone releases harmful gasses into the environment it'll be me, not the pig. I had my 2 German meals for the year, now it's back to American, Mexican, Chinese, Italian, ...
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
Nupe, you can vent all you want. Just don't ask me to pull your finger.  ;D  I guess you have to work 8 hours a day at your regular job then 16 hours a day on the ranch. Most of the family farmers have already been driven out of business and the ranchers are next. I hope you make it, as we need all the independant farms and ranches we can get.

I thought it was supposed to be government OF the people, BY the people. It doesn't really work that way does it? Too much meddling where they have no business IMO. And if I can't afford beef I'll take an old nag or something else instead. There's too much carnivore blood in my system to give up meat now.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: nupe on November 19, 2008, 07:23:12 PM
Nupe, you can vent all you want. Just don't ask me to pull your finger.  ;D  I guess you have to work 8 hours a day at your regular job then 16 hours a day on the ranch. Most of the family farmers have already been driven out of business and the ranchers are next. I hope you make it, as we need all the independant farms and ranches we can get.

I thought it was supposed to be government OF the people, BY the people. It doesn't really work that way does it? Too much meddling where they have no business IMO. And if I can't afford beef I'll take an old nag or something else instead. There's too much carnivore blood in my system to give up meat now.


Since I've been going to college I moved into town.  I've also had to cut way back on the cattle that I own, and thus I don't have as much responsibility, so now I usually just help when ever I'm needed instead of being more involved with the day to day chores.  Hopefully it wont be that way for too much longer though.  Also as far as government goes (and I hope that this is okay to post on here if not let me know) for those of you from South Dakota, Ken Knuppe is running for governor in 2010.  He was recently the president of Stock Growers Association of South Dakota and supports a real commonsense government.  He is getting lots of support both in South Dakota and from people in other states, because of the type of person that he is and the stances that he takes (In other words not the normal stances taken by politicians most in D.C.)
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 19, 2008, 10:26:45 PM
We need more governors like that. Mine isn't even American. Well NOW she is (I guess). And she's going to be part of BHO's transition team and maybe even end up on the supreme court. Ugh. We just can't get rid of her even with term limits so she can't get re-elected.
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Hazcat on November 20, 2008, 08:02:10 AM
Jumbo,

I'm jealous!  I haven't had a good scnhitzle since I left Germany in 1981!

Nupe,

Vent all you want.  Sounds like you have a good life plan going, keep at it and good luck!
Title: Re: Why large government will turn us into vegans
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2008, 10:49:21 PM
Haz, I didn't say it was a GOOD one did I?

My first jaeger schnitzel was outside of Fort Polk before I went to Germany. Our ex-DI supply sergeant had some too and said that ain't nothing but a pork chop with gravy on it. That's okay, I like pork chops. Then I got to eat the real deal for a couple years. I even had schnitzel sandwices with a squeeze of lemon to snack on. Everyplace I had jaeger schnitzel was different but all of them in Germany were great. My favorite place had a light colored gravy with diced mushrooms. This one was brown gravy with huge chunks of wild mushrooms. Most were somewhere in between, like sliced mushrooms in brown gravy. The German schnitels were so big they hung off the side of the plate, but here they have to use a different cut of meat and it's a lot smaller. I miss the salad I got with it in Germany too. IIRC it was just cucumbers and onions wth a vinagrette type of dressing. I liked getting french fries and dipping them in the gravy too. I need to take an eating vacation across Europe.  :P

I've been living on brats, chilli, and cheese for a couple days because it was on sale. Time to nuke some more. I don't know how many cows and pigs met their demise because of me, but there will be more. I don't care what it costs either. I'll buy less if I have to but won't give up meat. I'm having turkey for Thanksgiving but genuine Honeybaked Ham for Christmas. Another pig bites the dust. My uncles had a bull so mean that after he kicked my uncle one time to many we got our revenge on the bull by eating him and his son. One time I saw my uncle "tenderize" that bull with a claw hammer when it kicked at him. Home-grown, corn fed the last 6 months, and hung for 2 weeks. YUM!!!