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Title: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on November 30, 2008, 06:58:14 PM
So come 6 am( if the LEOs show up on time.... never have before)  I'll be doing a forced eviction.

A little base line, guy lost his wife, got into meth, no rent for 6 months.  I know nothing about him other then what was on his renters app and credit report.  He was a bean counter, clean credit.  There will be 2 officers an employee of mine.  You can not carry a gun.   


What would you do?

I've done this many times before, I do have a game plan.   
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Fatman on November 30, 2008, 07:30:04 PM
Sleep late.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on November 30, 2008, 07:32:58 PM
I'm not voiding a contract that grosses me 70k a year.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Big Frank on November 30, 2008, 07:41:03 PM
One of my anti-gun co-workers had a family member murdered while trying to collect rent. Be careful. If I couldn't defend myself I wouldn't be there without the police. Maybe you can bribe them into showing up on time and doing their job.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Jim Urban on November 30, 2008, 07:46:14 PM
Man Up... Evict the POS

If you survive, you keep the contract. If you die, you won't need it.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Fatman on November 30, 2008, 07:51:27 PM
Man Up... Evict the POS

If you survive, you keep the contract. If you die, you won't need it.

 ;D

TAB, I meant wait for the police to show.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Big Frank on November 30, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Man Up... Evict the POS

If you survive, you keep the contract. If you die, you won't need it.


LOL.  :)
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 30, 2008, 08:36:18 PM
Knock on the door and throw him out. If he does something dumb that's what the Cops are for, They can probably haul him off for possession any way. If he's spending all his money on meth he would only have a gun to sell, not shoot.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: m25operator on November 30, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Hey, Tab, don't want to take this lightly, although it will work out fine. Stake out the premises, and wait for LEO'S, if the subject comes out on his own before that, confront him on the way to the car, with all the necessary paperwork, and have somebody or somebodies covering your 6, eyeball the person, looking for weapons and if it don't look right, wait till tomorrow. Maybe He doesn't have a weapon but he's 6'6" 250LBS, Unless your bigger than that or your employee's are, back off, or at least let the air out of his tires to buy more time, until the LEO'S get there. Can you bring pepper spray?

Good luck. :-X
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on November 30, 2008, 09:13:30 PM
A big part of the prob is the cops... I've done 30-40 of these, unless there is a felony going on, they pretty much say, "are you.....?  we here by serve you this notice of eviction...  Get out."

Then leave.  Oh yeah did I mention we have to  pay for this service.   The only time I saw them do anything was when they guy had drugs in plan sight. 
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 30, 2008, 09:16:59 PM
At 6AM he might.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Rob10ring on November 30, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
Wow! Crappy situation. Be careful.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: MikeBjerum on November 30, 2008, 09:41:46 PM
As for the actual point of serving the papers you have the support you need.  However, watch yourself as they will not babysit you around the clock.  Remember, after all is said and done the police will only be minutes away with seconds count!
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: SwoopSJ on November 30, 2008, 11:49:20 PM
Maybe He doesn't have a weapon but he's 6'6" 250LBS

If he is a meth addict, I think the 250 lb part is a non factor.  Also, it is California, if he bothers to eat he's probably still weak from living on tofu and sprouts.   ;D  Just kidding!  Good luck, Tab.

Swoop
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: SigShooter on December 01, 2008, 01:10:52 AM
I've done this many times before, I do have a game plan.  

Since I'm not familar with your job, I take it you're like a repo guy but for rented properties? Anyway, you said you have a game plan. Follow it. That's the best option, especially if it's written down in a policy and your lawyer approves of it, ect. I would not do anything that hasn't been established as a Standard Operation Procedure, because in the event he sues you, you're going to have to defend your actions and explain why you devivated from your own SOP. I wouldn't recommend that situation, not that I'm giving you legal advice. Also, don't dwell on everything going wrong, cause you'll find a way to make it happen. Just have a positive mental attitude about ruining this guy's day.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on December 01, 2008, 01:21:09 AM
I'm a general contractor that has property man/maint biz on the side.  The procedure is laid out by law, its very easy to fallow, but a PITA.   really, one more lawsuit against me would be nothing.  I'm currently being sued by 1 party and suing 5.   All but one of those is from a contractor I was subing for disapearing on a spec house.  The other is a bounced check tht I will most likly never see a dime of.   On the plus side I have a nice arangement with my lawyer... we both have a tab.  currently she ows me money, but that won't last.

The prob is the LEOs here do not serve or protect, which is a damn shame since I have to pay for them to serve the eviction notice( state law)   There has only been one of these where they stayed longer then about 10 mins.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: 1776 Rebel on December 01, 2008, 08:53:35 AM
Well by this time the episode should be over. Would like to hear how it turned out. My two cents would be to tip the cops next time. I am sure that would make them much more attentive now and in the future. Just reality.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Fatman on December 01, 2008, 09:18:49 AM
I'm a general contractor that has property man/maint biz on the side.  The procedure is laid out by law, its very easy to fallow, but a PITA.   really, one more lawsuit against me would be nothing.  I'm currently being sued by 1 party and suing 5.   All but one of those is from a contractor I was subing for disapearing on a spec house.  The other is a bounced check tht I will most likly never see a dime of.   On the plus side I have a nice arangement with my lawyer... we both have a tab.  currently she ows me money, but that won't last.

The prob is the LEOs here do not serve or protect, which is a damn shame since I have to pay for them to serve the eviction notice( state law)   There has only been one of these where they stayed longer then about 10 mins.

Hence his screen name.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on December 01, 2008, 02:53:53 PM
Well long story short, they were 41 mins late, but I was thier 1st of the day   ::)

I had all the paper work plus a floor plan ready for them... They could have care less about any paper work.  They were there 4 mins.  They cleared the house taped the notice in the window and left.   Its like they the $165 this time  ::) .


Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 01, 2008, 05:00:56 PM
So come 6 am( if the LEOs show up on time.... never have before)  I'll be doing a forced eviction.

A little base line, guy lost his wife, got into meth, no rent for 6 months.  I know nothing about him other then what was on his renters app and credit report.  He was a bean counter, clean credit.  There will be 2 officers an employee of mine.  You can not carry a gun.   

What would you do?

I've done this many times before, I do have a game plan.   

Unarmed?
Wait on him to walk out and try to wipe a booger on him.....when he runs away, lock the door and take what's left of his stuff.
 ;D
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: TAB on December 01, 2008, 05:34:13 PM
Unarmed?
Wait on him to walk out and try to wipe a booger on him.....when he runs away, lock the door and take what's left of his stuff.
 ;D

I think you pretty much summed up the prob with the sd/ccw commuinty.   That being that if you don't have a gun, you can't defend yourself.  If you really have that mind set I highly doubt you will be able to defend yourself with a gun.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 01, 2008, 06:23:25 PM
You would be surprised at how many people who carry a gun are not really prepared to use it if the SHTF.
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: Big Frank on December 02, 2008, 10:27:24 PM
So what's the best non-gun defense against a large caliber assault booger with a high capacity feeding mechanism?
Title: Re: Lets talk about SD...
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 03, 2008, 10:48:17 AM
So what's the best non-gun defense against a large caliber assault booger with a high capacity feeding mechanism?

Laughing hysterically........ ;D

Frank, you just coined a new term.    :D

Don't let Sarah Brady in on this or sneezing will be on 'the list'.
"We must ban all assault boogers to protect the innocent"