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Title: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: Hazcat on December 05, 2008, 09:30:56 AM
TAMPA — Noah Herron had never given much thought to personal safety. The Bucs reserve running back and former Green Bay Packer had never had to.

"I grew up in the country not being able to even see my neighbor's house. We didn't lock our doors at night," said Herron, a native of Mattawan, Mich., in the southwest part of the state. "I even felt like Green Bay (Wis.) was a small town and nothing would ever happen there. I slept many nights with my doors unlocked. So, with that being said, after feeling threatened for my life, I think (protection) is necessary."

Herron had never seen himself as a gun owner. But his outlook changed in May, the instant a would-be burglar climbed through a first-floor window in his house while Herron was upstairs in his bedroom. Herron, 5 feet 11 and 218 pounds, thwarted the burglary by disabling one of two suspects, beating him with an unscrewed bedpost. The suspect was hospitalized.

In the event there's a next time, Herron, 26, figures he'll be more prepared. Now he owns a gun.

Firearms have become a popular means of protection for many NFL players. But the dangers of irresponsible gun use have taken center stage again, this time in the wake of Giants star Plaxico Burress' accidental, self-inflicted gunshot wound last weekend, a shooting that has ended his season and drawn weapons charges in New York City.

It has been widely debated why Burress, 31, and others consider guns a necessity. Herron isn't the only Buccaneers player who can make a compelling case for having guns — legal, registered ones — accessible.

Cornerback Phillip Buchanon survived a home invasion in 2006. At least six men in ski masks burst into his suburban Atlanta house and held him and friends at gunpoint for more than an hour. The men took valuables — electronics, jewelry, clothing — and Buchanon's luxury SUV. He also was pistol-whipped.

"I look at everything differently after that incident," Buchanon, 28, said.

Without getting specific about his position on gun ownership, Buchanon dropped a hint that he, too, has armed himself.

"I'm protecting myself," he said. "Believe that. I'm not going to tell the world, but trust me. I protect myself."

The NFL frowns on guns. Its weapons policy "strongly" recommends that players not own them. Weapons are expressly prohibited on the premises of all NFL facilities and a number of other locations, ranging from places hosting team functions to team hotels.

But players can't be prohibited from legally possessing guns in other environments and having a concealed-weapons permit in states where that's legal. Given players' exorbitant salaries — and the public knowledge of their earnings — gun ownership can appeal to professional athletes.

But some remain wary of it.

"I always feel like it's never a positive when you start talking about weapons," guard Davin Joseph, 25, said. "I don't want that on my mind, the fact that I maybe took somebody's life. And you don't want (a gun) involved because it can always escalate a situation. And it seems like it never ends in a positive way. It's either going to be you getting hurt or somebody else getting hurt. Sometimes, a cooler head is the best way to handle things."

Receiver Michael Clayton, 26, owns multiple weapons but emphasizes responsible use.

"You have to really know your weapon," he said. "It's not just something you carry around and mess with. You need to know how to handle it, how to take it apart, everything. It has to be your best friend, because if you're in a situation where you have to use it, you can't be messing up.

"I have a family to protect, and I will protect myself at all times. But I'm very careful with my weapons. I use them at the range, and everything I do with them is legal. I keep them locked up around my kids, and I take all the precautions you have to take with weapons."

To some extent, avoiding trouble is something a player has control over. In the case of Burress, some Buccaneers wondered why he felt it necessary to carry a gun into a nightclub.

"It's foreign to me to have to worry about something like that, to think you have to have a gun to be safe," linebacker Barrett Ruud, 25, said. "I've never gone anywhere where I felt like I wasn't safe … and I probably wouldn't go anywhere where I felt unsafe."

Times staff writer Rick Stroud contributed to this report. Stephen F. Holder can be reached at sholder@sptimes.com.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/article925096.ece

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Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: ericire12 on December 05, 2008, 10:03:51 AM
well put
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 05, 2008, 01:36:23 PM
Was that actually written by a real reporter and published in a real newspaper?

WOW !!!
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 05, 2008, 02:04:33 PM
I sent this Gentleman a thank you note for actually knowing something about his subject instead of just spewing liberal propaganda.
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: Hazcat on December 05, 2008, 02:06:17 PM
Was that actually written by a real reporter and published in a real newspaper?

WOW !!!

Not only that, the St Pete Times is a FAR left paper!
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 05, 2008, 02:08:53 PM
Is Mr. Holder still employed there  ;)
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: tt11758 on December 05, 2008, 03:09:12 PM
It's either going to be you getting hurt or somebody else getting hurt. Sometimes, a cooler head is the best way to handle things."


If somebody is going to get hurt, better the OTHER guy, thank you very much!!  And the only problem with the "cooler heads" approach is that miscreants don't often seem to possess them.
Title: Re: Some Tampa Bay Buccaneers can make a compelling case for owning handguns
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 05, 2008, 04:05:07 PM
Good report. Good perspective from those involved (NFL players).
I hope the libs don't go after unscrewed bedposts.