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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Walter45Auto on June 26, 2007, 11:19:15 PM
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I have a Rock Island Government 1911, that I'd like to concealed carry now and then. Other than my Fanny pack, or a belly band, I only have 2 holsters for this gun. One's a Vertical Shoulder holster which requires a fairly thick Jacket to conceal, and is a real pain to draw from. The other is an M12 Military style, which is just about impossible to conceal. Tried with a vest over it, but the Butt of the gun sticks way out. I'm thinking about trying a Bianchi Carrylok for it. But I prefer IWB. The problem with IWB, is the damned hammer is the original 1911 style, and tends to stick me in the side. Any holster suggestions??
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(http://www.axcessmypics.com/photos/photo01/2e/9f/81d0e3bf7e4c.jpg)This is a Bianchi IWB that I ordered out of Midwayusa catalogue a couple of years ago. I wouldn't want a 1911 holster without the extra leather.
Defensivecarry.com has a long list of holster links
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Walter45auto, I have the same pistol . Try this holster. http://www.gunnersalley.com/product/H715 try it appendix, works like a charm
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I use a Bianchi Professional which appears to be in agreement with the first response. The three cell mag pouch is a modified London Bridge Trading company Ltd. pouch I added a paddle to the back of it. the spare mags stay in the truck or my briefcase & would only be carried anticipating a tight spot (14 rnds. out of a P14-45 should be enough). The holster is comfortable but wear the right belt with it (WIDE) or it may change angles,the extra leather behind the hammer & safety are a plus! Have had no problem with a lite shirt over it. ;D have never been asked if I'm carrying.
(http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL433/1045441/16974678/262569435.jpg)
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That bianchi is one of the holsters I've looked at for it. Looks like what I need. Someone on glocktalk.com reccomended a Milt Sparks Versa Max II, but I wanted to get some other ideas. As for the Don Hume, I have that one for my GLOCK and it works very well. But it's not what I'm looking for for the 1911.
KABAR2, Exactly how wide a belt do I need?
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Walter45Auto
My suggestion is to check out clipgrip. This system works welll for me and my S&W 1911.
http://www.ajaxgrips.com/ajax/clipdraw
Hope it helps man,
tex
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Take this with a grain of salt, as I don't (yet) have a 1911, but I can vouch for the Milt Sparks VMII. Not only is the fit
and finish as good as anything I've ever seen, the belt loops can be changed out with an allen wrench for loops to fit
a different belt. I've got one for my USP compact, and ordered one for my P220 Compact the day I bought the gun...
That was two months ago, so I'm about halfway through the anticipated wait - that's the only drawback to the VMII. But
it's worth the wait. (Also worth noting, the long delay is partially due to demand, mostly due to the fact that it's a new gun
for them. They probably have some 1911 holsters made up already as it's much more common, but I'd call to check for
sure.)
[Context - 85% of time using that gun/holster, wearing typical business suit and dress shirt, plain black belt. No issues,
no printing. IWB, but not under shirt.)
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I 'm 5'8" 150 pounds and I use an Uncle Mike's Side Kick WB
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Try WWW.FIST-INC.COM They have a good selection and you can get different cant, hammer guard or whatever.
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Just looked at the Fist-Inc.com. Really looks like a good set up for what ever pistol you are carrying. I am thinking of trying one for my Para LTC. With the available cants, either straight, forward or extreme forward and with the different belt clips and slots available it should be just what we need regardless of body size. Give it a look it might work for you. Good shooting.
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Walter45auto check out the Wilderness Tactical belts MB is always talking about. They are on my to get list. Whatever you do make sure you get a gun belt not a bigbox special. I've had 2 leather dress gun belts for years and can carry a fully loaded Para P14 w/spare mag to a match, compete, stand around and BS and wear it home no problem.
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Does anyone make a butt DOWN shoulder rig. I'm to skinny for horizontaland butt up doesn't work under a sweatshirt.
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I'm 6' and 130 lbs... and I had np with a galco jack ass rig.
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterG3.asp?ProductID=653&GunID=28
its got more of a downward angle them most. The normal shoulder stuck out with 5" didn't have a prob with my commader length.
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Give a look to the Wilson Combat "Featherweight". I carry a commander sized gun in one and it works well for me. I like the protection for the safety lever that this holster provides. I ordered mine several years ago, the regular leather was out of stock, and the nice guy on the phone sold me the sharkskin model for the same price as the leather.
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/l_featherweight.asp
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I have used a Milt Sparks Versa Max II for a couple years now, love it. Conceals the pistol very well and is about as comfortable as you can get wearing a full size 1911. Extremely well made. Only downside is a very long wait to have one built, probably looking at about 6 months.
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I have been using a Aker White Lightning or Classic 3 Slot open top (I've had it for a while and can't remember) for IDPA, as I live in a state that isn't that gun friendly for a CCW, using a Commander size 1911. I do have a light shirt that I wear over it. I did have a Galco similar to the 3 slot (?Pancake/FLETCH?) but the thumb snap was designed that the hammer had to be down. The Aker I can carry C&L'd. I have been looking at getting a Blade-Tech UCH IWB for it in the future. The last IWB I had for it (don't remember mfgr/model) really didn't stay where I wanted it but it did hide most of the gun and the frame sat in a good spot to hide the rest with an untucked shirt.
I'm always weary of shoulder rigs. I just don't like that I'm always pointing my weapon in the wrong direction while trying to get it out, mainly at MY arm. Additionally it is nearly impossible to secure if the "baddy" wants to get your weapon. A belt holster you can leverage your arm against the gun to keep it in place while a shoulder rig you can only clamp your arm down, not enough to keep a determined opponent from getting it.
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Because of body type (pronounced FAT) I can't wear IWB holsters but I hear a lot of people brag on the Milt Sparks Summer Special and copies.
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The Clipdraw is definitely not what I'm looking for here. I've got the Uncle Mike's Sidekick holster, and it doesn't work for me with that gun. I'll consider the Fist holsters. There's a few other IWB holsters I've been looking at for it.
http://www.dmbullardleather.com/1429711.html (They're about 3/4 of the way down the page.)
http://www.gun-holsters.com/h_pages/inside_pants.html
http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/Belt_Holsters/Inside_The_Waistband/inside_the_waistband.html
On the High Noon ones, I'm trying to decide between the Down Under, the Tail Gunner, the Closing Argument, and the Tail Gate, If I decide on either of them.
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Because of body type (pronounced FAT) I can't wear IWB holsters but I hear a lot of people brag on the Milt Sparks Summer Special and copies.
Being rotund myself, I have no problem sharing a waistband with even a service revolver. Thing is, I've been shrinking in waistband, so even my size 46 jeans have enough room for a traveling companion, though I can't take advantage of that fact.
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I wore Wilson's Lo-Profile when I competed in IDPA with my CQB Compact. Worked great for CCW also.
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/l_lo_profile.asp
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I carry a Gov Model in the winter in a Simply Rugged Sourdough holster, holds the gun close and it doesn't have any snaps or retention system other than the tight fit of the holster. I have them for some of my other guns as well, worth a look.
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Well, went to the gun show yesterday, and came home with a Kimber BP Ten II. Stopped by the WRB Concealment table, because they sell Don Hume holsters. Tried a 715 with the BP Ten, and it wouldn't fit the double stack gun, due to its fat grip. So I picked up a PCCH, and tried it, and it fit perfectly. So I bought it, and it works perfectly with either my RIA or my new Kimber.