The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: alfsauve on December 16, 2008, 03:45:54 PM
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As a number of you do, I monitor MoveOn.org. They're currently polling their membership for the "hot" issues. I was tempted to reply with some conservative comments, but each response is tagged to a userid, and I don't want to be dropped. It's way too much fun reading their missives.
Right now they've taken about 50,000 user ideas and are trying to prioritize them. Mostly, along the lines of Health Care, out of Iraq, impeach Bush, and legitimize gay marriage. They're doing a poor job of categorization. I've read about 40 of the "criminal justice" ideas but haven't run across anything on gun control......yet. I can't post a link, because again you need a userid. But I'll keep you posted if a relevant issue crops up.
Some of these people are so.........how do you say politely?..........shallow thinkers. Many blame "profit" and "lobbyists" for all the evils in the USA, as if the liberals don't benefit from profit or use lobbyists.
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shallow thinkers.
Mental midgets
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When you want to stop lurking a site and move on to actually doing something on the site, I always like to go to bugmenot.com - a great place to get bogus logins that others have used and then posted so anyone can get into the sites. Especially useful for newspapers that require "registration" before getting access to a news article.
Here's what they had for moveon.
Account Details
Username youbet
Password sdfghj
Other
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Alf,
Did you make sure to sanitize your keyboard when you finished?
;D
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Alf,
Did you make sure to sanitize your keyboard when you finished?
;D
I hope he used a mouse condom. ;D
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Alf,
Did you make sure to sanitize your keyboard when you finished?
;D
They make finger condoms just for such occasions.
(https://shop.briggscorp.com/img_catalog%5C539_7800_0021_Lr.jpg)
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I can't post a link, because again you need a userid. But I'll keep you posted if a relevant issue crops up.
Didn't you mean to say: But I'll keep you posted if a relevant crap issues up.
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You know, they really don't have a grasp, even a fingernail hold, on reality.
Okay, they asked me to vote for the top issues. It was really easy because they worded them so.o.o.o.o open-ended.
1) Restore civil liberties. Of course, I'm thinking, things like, CCW and open carry WITHOUT a license. No security checkpoints at airports. Can the ATF. repeal, 1968, 193x laws.
2) Reform campaigns and elections. Oh duh. Of course, but I'm thinking, no ID no vote. Non-citizen- no vote. Dump all the campaign finance laws.
3) Improve public schools.
I mean how stupid are their "real" supporters? The ones who send them money?
Nothing on Gun Control. Most of the rest as socialistic. Universal Health Care, free college, etc.
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They go through life with their heads in the sand. But they do make good bike racks! ;D
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They go through life with their heads in the sand. But they do make good bike racks! ;D
There's a reason to get 'fat tire' bikes back on the street if I ever saw one.
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3) Improve public schools.
My answer, absolutely destroy the public schools.
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3) Improve public schools.
My answer, absolutely destroy the public schools.
No, that is not the answer. Limiting educational opportunities was long the chosen method by which the Church and state controlled the populace, if you can not read you have to take the word of the person who can, usually the local Govt. officials or Priest.
Public secular education was started in dark ages France when the King realized that he needed people who could read and write to properly administer his kingdom, but if he relied on the Church he could never trust their loyalty, in the event of a dispute between King and Pope their loyalty would go to the source of their education.
The answer to the problem is to eliminate "tenure" among teachers. The rest of us are subject to being fired for poor quality work, why should teachers be any different ? Perhaps if teachers were held responsible for the test results of their students they would return to the proven method of teaching HOW to think and quit trying to teach WHAT to think.
Locally we have a socialist activist "Professor" at a local college who writes a weekly column in the news paper, this past monday he mentioned that many in the area have proposed an end to tenure and went on to spend many column inches talking about educators and dissent, what he failed to mention was that if he spent more time teaching and less time dissenting his students would be better qualified for their jobs.
PHD = Piled Higher and Deeper
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3) Improve public schools.
My answer, absolutely destroy the public schools.
Actually it's a lot easier than that. Let each parent decide where their students go to school, be it private or public. The "per student" amount goes to the school the student decides to attend. Competition will take care of the rest of it.
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I started this post to alert everyone that MoveOn was on the move, in case they decided to zero in on gun control. Good news is they haven't. Not even in the top 10. Geo Saros and company do bear constant watching BECAUSE, they could work gun control into almost any of these issues. so, it's down to DefCon 4 for now.
Here are their key issues for the coming year by percentage of "members" voting.
1. Universal health care 64.9%
2. Economic recovery and job creation 62.1%
3. Build a green economy, stop climate change 49.6%
4. End the war in Iraq 48.3%
5. Improve public schools 21.6%
6. Restore civil liberties 16.8%
7. Hold the Bush Administration accountable 15.2%
8. Gay rights/LGBT equality 8.6%
9. Increase access to higher education 7.6%
10. Reform campaigns and elections 5.7%