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Title: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ultima ratio on December 17, 2008, 04:29:30 AM
Got your attention? :D

This looks like an acceptable way to carry a Glock holsterless.

http://www.themalabarfront.com/product_info.php?products_id=1617&osCsid=dcf56e2891fd73f94caf1ee3e4c960d0

(http://www.themalabarfront.com/images/VanGuard1.JPG)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Rob Pincus on December 17, 2008, 05:03:27 AM
While I am not horrified by that device, keep in mind that there is more to a good holster than simply keeping the trigger from getting pulled. Securing the gun while moving/running/falling/etc and providing a consistent position/orientation for drawing the pistol are just about as important.
It is something I would like to check out more closely, especially for off-body use as noted at the website.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 17, 2008, 05:42:54 AM
Can I wear it with the cord around my neck?  ;)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Hazcat on December 17, 2008, 05:44:39 AM
Can I wear it with the cord around my neck?  ;)

Dope on a rope?


;D
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 17, 2008, 05:46:13 AM
Mexican carry: a Glock near your ****.  :o
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ericire12 on December 17, 2008, 08:27:16 AM
Dope on a rope?


;D

Ouch
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 17, 2008, 03:00:31 PM
You have GOT to be kidding?? This could cause a hell of a mess in the bathroom if you're in a hurry.

I think I'd rather take my chances with it in a pocket.

Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: TAB on December 17, 2008, 04:57:42 PM
just don't get an erection...   You really might blow your load.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 17, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
just don't get an erection...   You really might blow your load.


That's like telling the sun not to rise in the morning either.  ;)


Birth control by Glock.  :o
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: TAB on December 17, 2008, 07:10:14 PM

That's like telling the sun not to rise in the morning either.  ;)


Birth control by Glock.  :o


lets give free glocks to all the gang bangers... we may just get lucky.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 17, 2008, 07:11:57 PM

lets give free glocks to all the gang bangers... we may just get lucky.


No more "banging" after the bang.  ;D
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ellis4538 on December 17, 2008, 07:13:24 PM
Woudn't that be rope on a dope?

Richard
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Rob10ring on December 17, 2008, 07:21:32 PM
That seems pretty ridiculous. …and what would the lanyard b for? This might only be suited for the glove compartment?
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: HAWKFISH on December 29, 2008, 08:36:13 PM
I dunno. I don't think there is a good way to carry a Glock (other than in your hand) unless it's in a holster. And that is coming from me... probably the biggest Glock fan of all-time.  :) It does look cool. But, I wouldn't carry it concealed on me like that. And even if you put it in a briefcase or something... still why not just use a holster?
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Pathfinder on December 29, 2008, 08:44:14 PM
I dunno. I don't think there is a good way to carry a Glock (other than in your hand) unless it's in a holster. And that is coming from me... probably the biggest Glock fan of all-time.  :) It does look cool. But, I wouldn't carry it concealed on me like that. And even if you put it in a briefcase or something... still why not just use a holster?

Better yet, why not just use a Sig??   ;D

 8)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Fatman on December 29, 2008, 08:53:41 PM
I'm with Fuzdaddy. I'd probably use something like this in a quick access gun box where grabbing for the pistol may be under less than optimal lighting conditions. Should keep you from hitting the trigger prematurely. Tie the other end of the lanyard off and it would rip the guard off at your set distance.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 29, 2008, 09:51:50 PM
Warning: Mexican Carry May Result In Decocking!
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: m25operator on December 29, 2008, 10:24:10 PM
Glock or not, I have mexican carried a lot, bottom line, it's good for what I use it for now, which is, knock on the door at the wrong time, holster is off, a quick tuck and go answer the door, not necessarily open it, say " who are you and why are you here? "  a noise in  the back yard that is not right, same thing, the quick tuck IWB is convenient, but not condusive to running or loose clothing, I have felt the pistol come out of or down my pants, coming out you can readjust, when it go's down is much worse. I dropped a Walther pp .380 into a toilet because I was so used to it, I did not remove it before I let down my pants and SPLOOSH,  there it was, luckily I had not become fully engaged at that time, some paper towels and some judicious cleaning later saved it, the gun, not my honor. The Mexican carry is from your car or bedroom to the front door, No mas, no menos. Field expedient, no more. Now this clever device does have some application, but it won't keep the pistol from migrating. Up or down.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 29, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
I have tucked a pistol into my waistband to answer the door or go out to the mailbox but never carried it any farther that way. Most of the time I put it in back where it's less visable and won't blow off any vital organs if I have an AD. A front jeans pocket also works in those situations if the gun is big enough that the grip can't go down into the pocket. Looping my belt around it seems to work good too. Almost like a beltslide holster.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: DesertMarine on December 30, 2008, 02:48:54 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell is "Mexican carry"?  Sounds like pistol stuck inside your trousers w/out holster.  I have yet to see a Mexican from either side of the border carry a pistol that way.  Only ones are the Mexicans in the movies played by non-Mexicans with stupid accents like Eli Wallach and John Saxon.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ericire12 on December 30, 2008, 02:54:38 PM
I carried my Glock 17 La Raza style once on a camping trip..... it was NOT chambered BTW -- Its the Indian not the arrow, Plaxico!   ;)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Fatman on December 30, 2008, 03:06:36 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what the hell is "Mexican carry"?  Sounds like pistol stuck inside your trousers w/out holster.  I have yet to see a Mexican from either side of the border carry a pistol that way.  Only ones are the Mexicans in the movies played by non-Mexicans with stupid accents like Eli Wallach and John Saxon.

Quote
If you go back to the roots of this term, you find that there is no racism, nor anything else pejorative in "Mexican Carry." The lore of the gun tells us that back in the 19th Century, the Mexican vaquero, much like the American cowboy, was an independent and self-reliant sort who often made it a point to carry a handgun. Alas, the history of 19th century Mexico was entailed one despot rising after another. The day came when the average citizen was stripped of his former right to go armed when he wished.

This did not sit well with the fiercely freedom-loving caballeros. They grudgingly took off their gun belts and holsters, because possession of those accoutrements would be seen as evidence that they had violated the draconian new laws that disarmed them. However, they defiantly kept their handguns, simply stuffing them into the waistband behind their ordinary belt. If the Federales hove into view, the citizen would simply slip his revolver into some discreet place where he could retrieve it later.

Thus, as I understand the history of the matter, there's nothing culturally negative about "Mexican Carry," as it became known. When we use the term, we're paying homage to generations of men south of the border who refused to give up the right to protect themselves and their families because petty tyrants attempted to make them helpless.

Theory and Practice

As noted in the Handgunner Annual piece, professionals have gotten away from Mexican carry. The gun can shift inside the waistband. It can even slip out unnoticed when you lie down for a nap. On a sedentary day that involves nothing more strenuous than a walk through the mall, you may get by with Mexican carry, but the moment action takes place--running, fighting, you name it--the chance increases exponentially that the insecurely-held pistol may become dislodged.

Some handguns carry better this way than others. One fellow thrust a cocked derringer, loaded with a .410 shotshell, inside his waistband. The spur trigger struck the edge of his belt, and the pistol fired, emasculating him. A proper trigger guard, and preferably both a heavy trigger pull and a manual safety, will go far to prevent accidental discharges in Mexican Carry.

Revolvers don't work well for this. The belt holds the widest part, the cylinder, and when gravity goes to work there's no catch point to keep the wheel-gun from sliding down the trouser leg. Old time cops wrapped rubber bands around their stocks to prevent this, but it was only a marginally efficient expedient. The slim, flat-sided 1911 (not called "old slabsides" for nothing) is more stable and comfortable than most when carried this way. However, shifting against the body can sometimes wipe off the safety catch. If the safety lever is ambidextrous, there's no holster to protect the outside lever from being wiped to the "off" position by the forearm. At such moments, the grip safety doesn't seem so extraneous after all. A striker-fired auto like the Glock? Glock itself strongly recommends not carrying with a round in the chamber unless the pistol's trigger guard area is properly protected by a holster. When the gun's manufacturer talks, I listen.

Excerpt from here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_51/ai_n8591504 (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_2_51/ai_n8591504)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on December 30, 2008, 05:09:31 PM
Thanks for explaining that so I didn't have to. IMO the OSS "string holster" is better than nothing at all. It's just a string looped around your belt or belt loop with a loop big enough to stick the pistol in but small enough that it couldn't slide through.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Ksail101 on December 30, 2008, 06:43:12 PM

lets give free glocks to all the gang bangers... we may just get lucky.

Will they all get these sights free of charge too????

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/08/22/sideways_gun_sight.jpg
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ericire12 on December 30, 2008, 06:58:08 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/ConcealedCarry.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: ericire12 on December 30, 2008, 06:58:31 PM
(http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/28/illegal_to_carry.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Michael Bane on January 03, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
Mexican carry with a Glock? Depends on how much you like Mr. Weasel!

Michael B
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on January 03, 2009, 10:00:54 PM
Wally the one-eyed wonder weasel is my best friend. I'd never do anything to hurt him.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Maximilian on January 04, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
So exactly what do you "anchor" the parachute cord to?  :o
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 04, 2009, 01:46:17 PM
So exactly what do you "anchor" the parachute cord to?  :o

Belt loop
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Ckott on January 05, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Mexican carry with a Glock? Depends on how much you like Mr. Weasel!

Michael B


The wife and I are both very fond of Mr. Weasel.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on January 05, 2009, 10:18:23 PM
So exactly what do you "anchor" the parachute cord to?  :o

Parachute?

Not to Mister Happy, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 07, 2009, 04:50:59 PM
Better yet, why not just use a Sig??    ;D

 8)

Umm.. lol because a Sig ain't no Glock! I've almost bought a Sig a time or two but after shooting them and comparing them to my Glocks... there is no comparison. I know Sigs are good and I like them alright. But, the Glock design fits me like and glove and I love them.  :D
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: HAWKFISH on January 07, 2009, 04:52:38 PM
Mexican carry with a Glock? Depends on how much you like Mr. Weasel!
Michael B

Yep!
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Arvinator on January 08, 2009, 06:58:09 PM
After reading all the replies, I would like to say that I have carried a S&W, Sig, and a Beretta a few times "Mex" to go check the mailbox, or to jump in the truck to run to a drivethru to get a pizza, etc. I do not suggest "Mexican" carry or going without a holster while on foot, due to the chance of much physical movement could speed up the loss of the pistol being concealed/carried. The pistol is going to be there, so go ahead and put it in a holster, that is just smarter. After being a full time cop for 18 years still on the job you will see all kinds of holsters, and a decent belt holster will go a long ways to keeping your sidearm safe and handy just in case you need it...
Title: Re: Mexican Carry with a Glock
Post by: Big Frank on January 08, 2009, 07:02:01 PM
If you need your gun it's better to have it on your side and not falling down your pant leg.