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Title: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: CurrieS103 on December 29, 2008, 03:26:06 AM
I just had to pound this guy on a news blog about a Florida gunshow

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2008-12-28/weapons_show_attracts_record_crowds

His comment:

Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Submitted by BarackToTheFuture on Mon. 12/29/2008 at 1:55 am

I realize most of you gun toting right wingers LACK a college education because you simply do not like to THINK. No, you prefer to REACT. That's what you are doing here again. You don't go out and rationally buy a gun or ammo for RATIONAL reasons. You go out and do something for an irrational reason or no good reason at all. You do it because everyone else you 'respect' is doing it.

Why don't you just try THIS? Think before you ACT. You elected GWB and voted for McCain why? We all know you don't know why! Nobody that voted for Bush and McCain could be clearly thinking about their actions. Bush is arguably going to go down in history as one if not the WORST President ever. This isn't an opinion, it's likely to be recorded in history far and wide. McCain/Palin weren't far behind (or in front) at all! Don't you feel the least bit FOOLISH to have proudly voted for the WORST President this country has ever seen? Have you ever stopped to think and realize that Obama could turn out pretty bad and still be better than Bush? If he does good at all, he'll be admired by the world for the rest of your God given lives.


I'm not sure if anything makes sense to you people, but for crying out loud WAKE UP! Obama is your next President. Yes, crime is up and the economy is wayyyyy down and you only have one President to thank for that. The one that's been in for the past 8 count 'em 8 LONG YEARS. In short, if you are going to buy a gun make sure you get a good deal. If you already have a gun or two, wait a bit. Chances are, Obama will improve the economy and thus lower crime. The price of guns and ammo will drop again. What goes up must come down, etc. Quit being stupid, and maybe we'll catch you on the flipside voting for Obama - the winner of the next Presidential election. Yes, you can count on it.

My comment:

Dear BarackToTheFuture
Submitted by curries103 on Mon. 12/29/2008 at 4:16 am

"I realize most of you gun toting right wingers LACK a college education because you simply do not like to THINK..."


Dear BarackToTheFuture


I THINK there is no room for comments like that here

I THINK that my 2 college degrees plus graduate work have nothing to do with common sense which these fellow bloggers exude

I THINK your emotion filled response is that of an unthinking, blind follower

I KNOW the democratic Congress and White House WILL go after the 2nd Amendment, maybe not 20 Jan...but soon

I KNOW I spent over 20 years voluntarily serving my country as I am sure others here have, so you are free to make endless emotional rants on blogs like this - that would be the 1st Amendment

I KNOW the Founding Fathers of our great nation placed the right to bear arms 2nd because tyranny threatened by the 1st will act upon the masses to ensure retention of power, just ask Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Mao.

I KNOW you are thinking that can't happen here...WANNA BET!


"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference." - George Washington
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: Rastus on December 29, 2008, 06:09:18 AM
No offense to MB, but when did it get passed down from on high that journalism and English are such a huge dang accomplishment for a college degree?   Over half the roustabouts and roughnecks I knew offshore could get a degree in journalism or English could do well in those courses and most of them didn't have a high school diploma.  Those were crip courses...easier even than the psychology (which I foolishly squandered time taking and "achieved" a minor in) I took to impress the ladies with.  And...Curries, as you I've got a couple of degrees as well...and not in some flunky (sorry again all you English teachers and important probed, err, truth probing journalists) dang course like journalism or (here it comes, "hell hath no fury like a teacher scorned") or education.

Not that extremely intelligent people don't excel in life and have journalism and teaching as a passion and do well or greatly benefit society with it...but the mass of reporters, etc...well heck...we talk about their lack of reason, lack of clarity of thought and mindless drivel endlessly on this board.  For that matter, look at the NEA and the anti-American stance they enjoy promoting to our detriment.

I think the news media gives the internet way too much credit for the downfall of the daily printed word.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 29, 2008, 07:08:31 AM
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If he does good at all, he'll be admired by the world for the rest of your God given lives.
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In the eyes of his followers and most of the media, all he needs to do is not get convicted of any crime to earn that admiration, and even if that happened most would explain it away as persecution, prejudice or corruption.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: ericire12 on December 29, 2008, 08:07:24 AM
I realize most of you gun toting right wingers LACK a college education

Actually I have two degrees.... I have an undergraduates degree in business as well as a masters degree in business administration not to mention a minor in music.......... ASSHOLE!  >:(
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: jaybet on December 29, 2008, 08:30:09 AM
Well said Curries! And thank you for the Washington quote I had never seen...it is a GEM. If you want to know the true intent of the 2nd amendment, look no further than that quote.

I will admit I don't have a degree. I got caught up in the moment (for about 10 years), thought I'd be a rock star, a flash in the pan marriage, etc. Then came the love of my life, and my family and a life that has included five different businesses, (two at a time for awhile), the fire service where I climbed to chief, EMS, coached basketball, rasied three kids and got THEM through college, a career in field engineering and construction, and a musical career that, while not producing fame and financial bonanzas, has spanned 40 years and has been incredibly rewarding. I never realized that I did all of that without the capacity to think.

Educated people are not always thinkers, they are not always effective, and they are not always right, except in their own minds (as we ALL are). Our Constitution acknowleges our rights to pursue our own beliefs and our own dreams. Unfortunately many times the people this asshole is praising are the people who DON'T have a clue...restricting the rights of others seems to be the way they approach a problem.

Change a few words, twist a phrase very little...and it's the voice of Hitler youth.
Ya gotta get off the Kool Aid, kid...it's not good for ya.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: CurrieS103 on December 29, 2008, 08:53:44 AM
Actually I have two degrees.... I have an undergraduates degree in business as well as a masters degree in business administration not to mention a minor in music.......... ASSHOLE!  >:(

Well put!
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TSB on December 29, 2008, 04:11:13 PM
This is laughable and it's typical leftist rhetoric and completely unsupported by facts.

The A-typical uneducated voter leaned heavily toward Obama and about 60% of the votes cast for the President Elect were cast by people who have no idea who Joe Byden, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid are and know nothing of the three branches of the Federal Government.  These are FACTS supported by exit polls on November 4th.  If they were required to take the basic test for citizenship, most would never score high enough to become citizens.

It's what makes the DNC more powerful every election cycle, it's called "THE DUMBING DOWN of AMERICA"...!!!



Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TAB on December 29, 2008, 04:48:11 PM
W should not have been elected the 1st time.

oooooooo the great MBA... oooooo so impressive...

yeah lets see, I have a degree in Math with a minor as structural engineering and a masters in math...   But he is right, his MBA( that his daddy bought) is better cuz he went to a ivy league school...  Much better then me starting off at a JC, going to a CSU then finally a UC.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: Bill Stryker on December 29, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
Bar-rack* to the Future must be very very young. He must not remember the two worst presidents in history. No 1 Jimmy Carter and No 2 Bill Clinton. The bad part about those two is that they are still doing bad things as ex-presidents.

*Spelling and emphasis added.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: pops1911 on December 29, 2008, 07:22:34 PM
You idiot Bush bashers have no clue either! Be thankful you live in a country that allows you to have an opinion to voice. Bush will be proven to be one of our best presidents in spite of popular opinion today. You can thank the news media for their 'help' in bashing him & enticing the ignorant masses to follow suit - the same idiots that voted for BHo & Barney Frank, Pelosi ...... You will get what you deserve & I hope you enjoy it!

The rest of us will as usual, try to fix things & if you get run over too bad.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TAB on December 29, 2008, 08:15:58 PM
You idiot Bush bashers have no clue either! Be thankful you live in a country that allows you to have an opinion to voice. Bush will be proven to be one of our best presidents in spite of popular opinion today. You can thank the news media for their 'help' in bashing him & enticing the ignorant masses to follow suit - the same idiots that voted for BHo & Barney Frank, Pelosi ...... You will get what you deserve & I hope you enjoy it!

The rest of us will as usual, try to fix things & if you get run over too bad.



How so?     
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: runstowin on December 30, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
 If you already have a gun or two, wait a bit. Chances are, Obama will improve the economy and thus lower crime. The price of guns and ammo will drop again. What goes up must come down, etc. Quit being stupid, and maybe we'll catch you on the flipside voting for Obama - the winner of the next Presidential election. Yes, you can count on it.

I'm not holding my breath you fool.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: runstowin on December 30, 2008, 02:04:21 PM
This is laughable and it's typical leftist rhetoric and completely unsupported by facts.

The A-typical uneducated voter leaned heavily toward Obama and about 60% of the votes cast for the President Elect were cast by people who have no idea who Joe Byden, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid are and know nothing of the three branches of the Federal Government.  These are FACTS supported by exit polls on November 4th.  If they were required to take the basic test for citizenship, most would never score high enough to become citizens.

It's what makes the DNC more powerful every election cycle, it's called "THE DUMBING DOWN of AMERICA"...!!!

THE DUMBING DOWN of AMERICA is a synonym for PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM and AMERICAN COLLEGE and UNIVERSITY SYSTEM.


Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TAB on December 30, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
The best thing they can do to fix the econ is nothing.


Let the companys go under of file chapter 11 so they can reorganize.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TSB on December 30, 2008, 02:27:49 PM

THE DUMBING DOWN of AMERICA is a synonym for PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM and AMERICAN COLLEGE and UNIVERSITY SYSTEM

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: pioneer on December 30, 2008, 03:41:26 PM
Let's see, what other "idiots" in history believed passionately in the God given right of self defense by force of arms...
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Samuel Adams
James Madison
Benjamin Franklin
Alexander Hamilton
Etc., etc., etc.
"Idiots all!"
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: TAB on December 30, 2008, 03:43:25 PM
Let's see, what other "idiots" in history believed passionately in the God given right of self defense by force of arms...
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Samuel Adams
James Madison
Benjamin Franklin
Alexander Hamilton
Etc., etc., etc.
"Idiots all!"


you do know that bush said he would sign another AWB if it made it too his desk right?   

He was no friend of gun owners.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: Fatman on December 30, 2008, 04:24:46 PM

you do know that bush said he would sign another AWB if it made it too his desk right?   

He was no friend of gun owners.

*sigh* political move, TAB. Always was. Can we stop beating this now?

From CNN, the gun-owner's best friend:

Quote
President Bush says he will sign a bill renewing the assault weapons ban if Congress passes it. How likely is that?

"There are not the votes to pass the bill," explained House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, a Texas Republican, on Wednesday. "If the president asked me, I would tell him the same thing."

Democrats blame President Bush.

"George W. Bush says 'I'm for that.' Never asked the Congress to pass it. Never stood up. Caves in to the NRA," said Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry on Friday.

Senate majority leader Bill Frist said, "I think the will of the people is consistent with letting it expire. So it will expire.''

But a National Annenberg election survey shows two thirds of the public favors extending the ban. So why won't Congress pass it?

"The NRA, with all of its selfishness, has the ability to go into certain districts and defeat people," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, on Thursday.

The Democrats learned that lesson in 1994, just after Congress passed the assault weapons ban.

"President Clinton, after the '94 election, thought this issue probably cost the Democrats the House of Representatives," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.

Why should the minority on this issue have so much power? Simple: They vote the issue.

"Gun owners and hunters that know guns deeply, resent the mischaracterizations and the fact that the other side is attempting to mislead the American public on this," said LaPierre. "And they will go to the polls and vote against the congressmen that go with the lies."

Most gun control supporters do not vote the issue. So even though they are in the majority, their views don't matter.

"When the general public is not so aroused, small interest groups can have a greater say," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, on Thursday.

They can even get the political Play of the Week.

Let's say you're a member of Congress and two-thirds of your constituents favor renewing the assault weapons ban. So you vote for it. Are you safe?

No. Because you are likely to lose more votes from the minority who oppose the ban -- and who will vote against you for that reason alone -- than you will gain from the two-thirds majority who agree with you but will not vote for you for that reason alone.


I take issue with "2/3 wanted it extended", and that we are the minority we are talking Annenberg Foundation, after all.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: tt11758 on December 30, 2008, 05:31:39 PM
The best thing they can do to fix the econ is nothing.


Let the companys go under of file chapter 11 so they can reorganize.

TAB, you and I agree on something!!  I'm not sure which of us should be more frightened by that!!   lol
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: Fatman on December 30, 2008, 06:00:06 PM
TAB, you and I agree on something!!  I'm not sure which of us should be more frightened by that!!   lol

I didn't want to mention that, I was frightened and went into denial.

And I'm disappointed the financial wizards responsible for this mess didn't have the decency to leap from the tallest building. I expected them to act more honorably than the ACORN crowd and the politicians.
Title: Re: Ya know, this is the kind of LUNACY that got GWB elected TWICE
Post by: Hazcat on December 30, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
I didn't want to mention that, I was frightened and went into denial.

And I'm disappointed the financial wizards responsible for this mess didn't have the decency to leap from the tallest building. I expected them to act more honorably than the ACORN crowd and the politicians.

The RNC MIGHT actually be waking up!

EXCLUSIVE: RNC draft rips Bush's bailouts

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/30/rnc-pushes-unprecedented-criticism-of-bailouts/