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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: nzfh on December 30, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
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Hi guys. Quick question, I want to try out a 22 LR conversion on a glock 19.
I found two possibles. Advantage arm or Ciener 22 conversion kits.
If any one has any advice on these or another kit,Please give me a heads up.
thanks
JAY
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Just buy a dedicated .22 pistol instead. You will have a much better shooter and it will in turn yield much better practice.
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Thanks ericire12
But I live in a commie state and a new pistol is easier said than done.
I have two 22 rifles and want to give the pistol a try.
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I feel for ya. Why dont you try moving back to the good old US of A.... oh wait.... Pelosi+Reid+Obama = We are all screwed!
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Jay I feel for ya, my feedback on Ceiner is very negative on the glock, I've owned 2 for 1911 and they did work pretty well and were decently accurate, 2 1/2" at 25 yards. The negativity on the glock is failure to feed, failure to eject, if the round makes it into the chamber it will go bang.
On the advantage, I hear better news, but not great, some work some don't, I have not dealt with them directly, but their customer service has to be better than ciener, I'd call him a d**k, but that's part of a man and it has a head on it. ;) His customer service has a well earned reputation for abysmal and he is arrogant. I was complimenting him at the shot show for his 1911 conversion and how well it shot, He asked what kind of groups I was getting, and I said 2 1/2" at 25, and he said you must not know how to shoot, it should shoot an inch all day. >:( Here is a little clue for everybody, if you can shoot an iron sight pistol into 2 1/2" at 25 yards as a rule, and these were 10 round groups, you can probably shoot an inch if the pistol is capable. Off the bench of course. I hate to recommend the 1911 conversions due to the man, not the product.
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WOW :o
Thanks guys. I will wait on getting the kit.
jay
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Suppose, just suppose, a top end Glock .22 conversion was headed for the market...more when I can tell you!!!
Michael B
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Nice. Can't wait :)
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I have an Advantage for my G17 with about 1k rounds through it with only a rare feed using the recommended Mini-Mags. Nothing like for working on the fundamentals. You can shoot twice as many rounds at half the price.
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Suppose, just suppose, a top end Glock .22 conversion was headed for the market...more when I can tell you!!!
Michael B
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Suppose, just suppose, a top end Glock .22 conversion was headed for the market...more when I can tell you!!!
Michael B
You got my attention! I'm listening... :D
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Suppose, just suppose, a top end Glock .22 conversion was headed for the market...more when I can tell you!!!
Michael B
Something that mimics the actual weight of a Glock? (Like the Advantage Arms unit, but it is LIGHT in weight)
Maybe something whose magazine capacity is truly Glock like?
;)
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I'll bet the name starts with TS.
Am I getting warm?
Richard
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I hope it's good whoever it is.. I have read some good articles about the Advantage Arms one.. but magazines are had to get from what I hear. I dunno.. never shot one yet.. I do hope that someday you can readily get one that works well for Glocks.. because not only would I buy several.. I'm sure thousands of other Glocker's would too.. and somebody would make some $ no doubt.
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I hope it's good whoever it is.. I have read some good articles about the Advantage Arms one.. but magazines are had to get from what I hear. I dunno.. never shot one yet.. I do hope that someday you can readily get one that works well for Glocks.. because not only would I buy several.. I'm sure thousands of other Glocker's would too.. and somebody would make some $ no doubt.
Or you could just buy a used G17 -- probably for about the same price. You would not save as much money as you would with a .22 conversion and you would not recoup your investment as fast.... but you would have a Glock in a real caliber to add to the collection.
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This reply came from another topic, which I removed because it was redundant. The quote below is a quote from ericire12:
"$265 bucks for a conversion...... $389 for used G17 (I've seen them regularly in $350 range)
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/654_774/products_id/411535918
Like I said in another post....buy a used G17. You would not save as much money shooting 9mm as you would with a .22 conversion and you would not recoup your investment as fast.... but you would have a Glock in a real caliber to add to the collection. It will also be a better shooter and give you more realistic practice.
Or just buy yourself a dedicated .22 caliber pistol to practice with -- also would be a better shooter and yield better practice.
*Also, reference Bane's comment here:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=4559.msg54242#msg54242"
Thanks, Eric. My purpose for the conversion is to practice with the gun I carry. I shoot the G30 at IDPA matches and their classifiers. In practicing with gun I carry, my theory is that I will become more proficient with it and be able to handle it without having to think about it should it be necessary. To be sure, I will practice with regular .45 ACP rounds but nowhere near as much as with the .22 LR.
I remember a SG episode where MB is talking about this issue; MB if I have this wrong, please correct me. He was saying, and I am paraphrasing him, that the body doesn't really differentiate between shooting the .22 and larger calibers, it's the muscle memory that is generated that is key.
And thanks to the others for providing their feedback. I will wait to see if a better solution emerges at SHOT.
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I have an Advantage Arms conversion for my G17. I use it every time I shoot which is several times weekly. It is very accurate (1" @ 7 meters routinely, 5 rds) but the slide is much lighter than the 9mm slide. Not an issue for me. If fits in my IWB holster so it is good for draw practice as well as shooting drills.
22s are very ammo sensitive. AA advises what to use and what not to use. I use Rems cuz they are cheap but I have had FTFs with this ammo. CCI had no such problems. I had FTE problems with both but with a Q tip and polishing media, I smoothed the chamber a little and that eliminated the problem entirely. 40 gr solids work better than 36 HPs.
Mags can be found in several gun shops in the area and are some $25 each.
I looked at Ceiner several times and they reportedly have had problems so I never bought one.
I like the kit and shoot it a lot.
Road Hog
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I just received an Advantage Arms conversion kit for my Glock 30 and I can recommend it to one who wishes to get some range time without having to empty the 401K (if it still exists ;)) to cover the cost of ammo.
With an extra magazine, the setup for my pistol was $305 to my door and it took approximately 4 weeks for it to arrive. I have 300 rounds through it and have experienced some FTF issues with CCI Mini Mags (AA recommended ammo) and some Federal high velocity ammo (AA does not recommend it), but I'm not complaining. One negative was that I had to adjust the rear sight in the dovetail as it was too far to the left; it does have the Glock target sights. I do plan to change the sights to XS sights I normally carry on the G30.
Overall, I am impressed with the setup and I can see where I will benefit from the added practice shooting with it.
Next on my list is a Tactical Solutions conversion for one of my 1911s.....
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Suppose, just suppose, a top end Glock .22 conversion was headed for the market...more when I can tell you!!!
Michael B
A year and three months later and I am still holding my breathe. I really want a great .22LR conversion kit for my Glock M-22 and not happy with the Ciener or AA. Hate to buy one and next week the want I tried to wait for comes out.
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Could this be it?????
Tactical Solutions TSG-22 GLOCK .22 Conversion:
http://www.tacticalsol.com/store/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=13
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As MS said, Tactical Solutions is putting out a glock .22 conversion top end this summer. Should be pretty good if you can wait a few months to get it. I know that can be difficult for some! :P ::) :o
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As MS said, Tactical Solutions is putting out a glock .22 conversion top end this summer. Should be pretty good if you can wait a few months to get it. I know that can be difficult for some! :P ::) :o
Saw a preview and it showed the standard model for $350 and Threaded Model for $415......yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope they are not that much but they look great and super high quality. I just don't know if I will be willing to pay that much for just a conversion. Maybe Chiappa will make a .22 Glock clone like their Model 1911-22. Haven't shot one yet but every review I have read really liked them. Start the e-mail campaign for one.
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Saw a preview and it showed the standard model for $350 and Threaded Model for $415......yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope they are not that much but they look great and super high quality. I just don't know if I will be willing to pay that much for just a conversion. Maybe Chiappa will make a .22 Glock clone like their Model 1911-22. Haven't shot one yet but every review I have read really liked them. Start the e-mail campaign for one.
Well their is an advantage of having the conversion instead of another gun and that's getting to use the same trigger, magwell, and maybe even the same style of sights. I think that's worth a lot! I would love to have a conversion for the M&P or make M&P9-22 like the M&P15-22.
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The TS Glock conversions should be here early summer...I know that they've been working to get them 100%; what I've seen so far is they'll be the best on the market. I just dropped TS a note asking for an update, and am hoping to (fingers crossed) arrange a DRTV discount on them for you guys!
Michael B
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The TS Glock conversions should be here early summer...I know that they've been working to get them 100%; what I've seen so far is they'll be the best on the market. I just dropped TS a note asking for an update, and am hoping to (fingers crossed) arrange a DRTV discount on them for you guys!
Michael B
If they need to send one out for testing I would gladly work it into my busy schedule, lol. Well I hope you get to test one soon. They look top quality. If you can swing a discount that would be awesome.
Thanks Michael.
Mark
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The TS Glock conversions should be here early summer...I know that they've been working to get them 100%; what I've seen so far is they'll be the best on the market. I just dropped TS a note asking for an update, and am hoping to (fingers crossed) arrange a DRTV discount on them for you guys!
Michael B
whether the discount for DRTV works out or not the military folks on here should know Tactical Solutions does give a 10% mil discount!