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Title: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Marshal Halloway on January 02, 2009, 09:38:47 AM

We receive a ton of emails about The Best Defense series and the #1 is this:

Q: Can a copy of the show be purchased on DVD or will it be available for download?

A: At this time, Best Defense will only be available on Outdoor Channel. If DVDs become available, it will be after the season's first rerun which ends at the end of June.

Videos with outtakes and footage which has not been used on the show, will be available on DownRange.TV in the near future.



Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Maximilian on January 07, 2009, 08:01:31 PM
That will be Awesome. I smell Christmas gifts.
 ;D
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on January 07, 2009, 08:20:28 PM
Hi Marshal,
For the life of me, I can not figure out why OC/SG have not distributed their shows on iTunes or allowed them to be purchased on DVD. To me that seems like the biggest no-brainer in television. But I hasten to add that I don't know a wit about how those agreements are made, so maybe it's beyond my grasp for a reason.  :-\

Can you tell us why that has never been done?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Marshal Halloway on January 07, 2009, 08:36:37 PM

Actually, Shooting Gallery and Cowboys (shows produced by Outdoor Channel) was available on DVD a couple of years ago. These were previous episodes and seasons not on a rerun.

It is all a matter of putting logistics together and resources to make it happen.

We are looking into the options, so stay tuned....

If Best Defense becomes available through other media, it will not happen during 1st and 2nd quarter '09.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on January 07, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
Actually, Shooting Gallery and Cowboys (shows produced by Outdoor Channel) was available on DVD a couple of years ago. These were previous episodes and seasons not on a rerun.

It is all a matter of putting logistics together and resources to make it happen.

We are looking into the options, so stay tuned....

If Best Defense becomes available through other media, it will not happen during 1st and 2nd quarter '09.

I don't know about the rest of the DRTV community, but I know I would be willing to pay for premium content like those shows. I like to download episodes of the "The Office" from iTunes and download other series from other networks to watch the shows I like when I want. I also like to cook so I bought the DVD series of "America's Test Kitchen" (all 8 seasons) and get alot out of the shows too; many delicious meals.....

Anyway, I will be keeping an eye out for any new developments.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 08, 2009, 01:09:58 AM
Heck ya ! It's the only way I'll get to watch.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Pathfinder on January 08, 2009, 06:07:52 AM
Actually, Shooting Gallery and Cowboys (shows produced by Outdoor Channel) was available on DVD a couple of years ago. These were previous episodes and seasons not on a rerun.

It is all a matter of putting logistics together and resources to make it happen.

We are looking into the options, so stay tuned....

If Best Defense becomes available through other media, it will not happen during 1st and 2nd quarter '09.

Mighty big IF there . . .
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: CurrieS103 on January 08, 2009, 07:37:13 AM
Heck ya ! It's the only way I'll get to watch.

Only way I will see it also.  I would have to double my Direct TV bill to get the Outdoor channel
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: luvmy45 on January 15, 2009, 07:28:29 PM
Only way I will see it also.  I would have to double my Direct TV bill to get the Outdoor channel

OC is only $1.99/month ala cart on the Dish system. You might look at switching.

Brian
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: vtj0505 on January 17, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
I got all excited when I read that there where some old seasons of shooting gallery out there on DVD, but alas, my ebay searches keep turning up nothing other that some terrible looking movie staring Freddie Prince JR.

I understand that authoring DVD's in an investment and takes some production and organization.  I would think that posting a show on itunes would take a little less work and investment, but, knowing apple, im sure that that it isnt exactly straight forward.

Still, there must be something....  there are other digital video dl services out there, and what about just doing it yourself?  Look at the porn industry:  hundreds of thousands of guys with a camcorder and some naked girls can figure out how to sell downloadable video, how hard can it be?

Id be happy to pay  for individual episodes of shooting gallery and best defense  or even a "download every episode"  subscription-based service. 

You guys have been constant innovators in terms of your shows and content,  just apply some of that same mindset to distribution!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Teufeldog on January 19, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
I'm another one of those individuals who doesn't have cable/sat TV. My means of watching shows is via Hulu.com, iTunes store and tvrss.net. It would fantastic if you guys could arrange a "Season Pass" on iTunes or Hulu. I'd pay for the episodes and not have to worry about the release of a DVD. Not having to make DVD runs would save you folks some dinero too. I doubt anyone out there will DVR the shows, re-encode them and stick them on tvrss.net.  :(
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 20, 2009, 01:04:20 AM
I'm another one of those individuals who doesn't have cable/sat TV. My means of watching shows is via Hulu.com, iTunes store and tvrss.net. It would fantastic if you guys could arrange a "Season Pass" on iTunes or Hulu. I'd pay for the episodes and not have to worry about the release of a DVD. Not having to make DVD runs would save you folks some dinero too. I doubt anyone out there will DVR the shows, re-encode them and stick them on tvrss.net.  :(

Should explain how to do that for guys like Rastus, and I think Alfsuave, who switched from cable to satellite or vice versa and lost all their recorded episodes.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on January 20, 2009, 05:24:22 AM
any way that I can get my hands on it in Aust. for any of the shows would be good


if iTunes store is one way to do it then Please try and get it on the Australian iTunes store 

Please, please  as I would love to watch the shows 
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 20, 2009, 11:35:45 AM
any way that I can get my hands on it in Aust. for any of the shows would be good


if iTunes store is one way to do it then Please try and get it on the Australian iTunes store 

Please, please  as I would love to watch the shows 

Doesn't your Govt. consider that sort of viewing to be something worse than "slasher porn". Wouldn't you get in trouble for it ?
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on January 20, 2009, 09:46:41 PM
This is still something that we are working on, guys.....   We'll be sure to make an announcement as soon as a solution has ben worked out!


Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on January 21, 2009, 02:49:59 AM
Doesn't your Govt. consider that sort of viewing to be something worse than "slasher porn". Wouldn't you get in trouble for it ?

probably 

it would get banned under the new "internet" censorship thing they want to do here as well to protect us from our selves


hmm they will love watching what I surf hehe   better go and get my tin foil hat on just in case
This is still something that we are working on, guys.....   We'll be sure to make an announcement as soon as a solution has ben worked out!


Cool 
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rastus on February 01, 2009, 05:49:25 AM
Should explain how to do that for guys like Rastus, and I think Alfsuave, who switched from cable to satellite or vice versa and lost all their recorded episodes.

I switched for DirecTV to Dish and the hardware changed so I lost a few of the shows I liked.  The SG shows like :Snubbies, Lies and  Videotape with Walt Rauch, the 22 Rimfire show in that fantastic facility out in CA that introduced Tactical Solutions to us...those were my favorites and one of the NRA shows where I was in "This Old Gun". 
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Conagher 45 on February 01, 2009, 01:51:07 PM
I would definetly  purchase season 1 if it came out on DVD. I was babeling about the show to our D.T. and firearms instructors at work, this would breath some new life into our old same,same training.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: RTFM on February 11, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
Yup -ODC if your reading, know that I'd buy the 1st season in DVD if it were offered.

Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: L.E. Keeney on February 14, 2009, 03:46:47 PM
I would buy Best Defense on DVD tomorrow if it was offered. That show packs so much info into every show that you have to watch it more than once to get it all.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: mattcfii on February 15, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Itching to see Best Defense but no Outdoors Channel subscription, yet! Thanks for the Dish al carte tip, I didn't realize that was an option for single channels.  One more reason I love Dish Network! 

I would love to see a DVD option or iTunes download to go with Down Range Radio Podcasts.  I have a DVR but would prefer other the options for long term reviewing.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: D-Man on February 16, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
DirecTV allowed me to do the same thing. Well worth the $1.99 per month to add the Outdoor Channel.

Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: dburg30 on February 25, 2009, 11:16:32 AM
I don't know about the rest of the DRTV community, but I know I would be willing to pay for premium content like those shows. I like to download episodes of the "The Office" from iTunes and download other series from other networks to watch the shows I like when I want. I also like to cook so I bought the DVD series of "America's Test Kitchen" (all 8 seasons) and get alot out of the shows too; many delicious meals.....

Anyway, I will be keeping an eye out for any new developments.

Thanks again!

I'm new here, but I would happily pay for premium content / downloadable episodes HERE.   I dont want to pay itunes, I want the money to stay here with the people that share our love.     I know I'm new here, but I would pay to watch them here or be able to download them.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: drichards0418 on March 08, 2009, 12:25:17 AM
I have to say that since I started to carry concealed I have been on an all out hunt for information in any form.  My goal is to be informed so I can keep my wife and two sons safe.  Me too, of course.  But as a husband and father I worry about them more than I do myself.  As you all know there is a ton of information out there.  It is my opinion that in the 9 episodes that I have seen, I missed the first one :(, Rob, Michael, and Michael have presented a lot of information.  I have learned a lot and have been integrating many new things into my training.  I think The Best Defense is the best thing shy of one on one professional training.

So to Rob and the Michaels
Thank you!!!  If a DVD set becomes available I want one.

Thanks again.

Drichards0418

PS:  I have the DVR set to record all episodes.  I'll get the rerun on 4/1/09
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on March 09, 2009, 05:43:38 AM
Thanks guys.... we're still trying... in fact, I just sent out another email to the person I am working with at OC a few moments ago. Fingers Crossed.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on March 09, 2009, 05:58:18 AM
Thanks guys.... we're still trying... in fact, I just sent out another email to the person I am working with at OC a few moments ago. Fingers Crossed.

Cool mate  thanks for the update
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on March 09, 2009, 06:15:52 PM
Thanks guys.... we're still trying... in fact, I just sent out another email to the person I am working with at OC a few moments ago. Fingers Crossed.

Thanks for the update, Rob. My fingers and toes are crossed.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: vtj0505 on April 10, 2009, 12:33:08 AM
Thanks guys.... we're still trying... in fact, I just sent out another email to the person I am working with at OC a few moments ago. Fingers Crossed.

Thanks for the update(s) Rob.  It makes waiting easier to know that someone (with co-host written under their name) is also trying to do something about it. 

Thanks again for the great show / being awesome.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on April 10, 2009, 08:36:26 AM
Update... We have hope that the DVDs will be available at Mr. Janich's Stay Safe Media site by the end of the month!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: shooter32 on April 10, 2009, 08:48:39 AM
Update... We have hope that the DVDs will be available at Mr. Janich's Stay Safe Media site by the end of the month!

Nice!!! Thanks for the extra work it took to get it on DVD ;D
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: cooptire on April 23, 2009, 02:41:58 PM
Update... We have hope that the DVDs will be available at Mr. Janich's Stay Safe Media site by the end of the month!


SWEET! That will make my tv viewing life so much easier.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: ericire12 on April 23, 2009, 02:45:58 PM
Update... We have hope that the DVDs will be available at Mr. Janich's Stay Safe Media site by the end of the month!

I smell a DRTV giveaway coming soon!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on April 24, 2009, 01:19:12 PM
Stand by for an expected shipping date and the ability to pre-order!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: m25operator on April 24, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
That is really great, I record the episodes, but so many on this forum have never seen it, and can't get it. Outstanding, I expect not a bad business move either. ;)
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on April 24, 2009, 11:10:26 PM
Stand by for an expected shipping date and the ability to pre-order!

Credit card standing by.....
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: JohnBrantuk on May 02, 2009, 02:56:18 PM
Stand by for an expected shipping date and the ability to pre-order!

That's GREAT news!  I just discovered "Best Defense" and I will purchase DVDs for myself, my USAF son, my married daughter, my gun club, my range, my best friends, etc., etc.!

EVERYONE needs to watch and study these great techniques and tips!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on May 14, 2009, 07:13:27 PM
Now Available for Pre-order at the I.C.E. Training Online Store!
http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-35/NOW-available-on-DVD%21%21%21/Detail (http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-35/NOW-available-on-DVD%21%21%21/Detail)

Pre-order price for the ENTIRE Season is $29.95. The first batch will ship by June 1st!


Thanks to all of you who expressed interest and inspired us to get this done!

-RJP


Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: cooptire on May 14, 2009, 08:52:23 PM
AWESOME!  Just ordered it as a gift for................ me!  ;D
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on May 14, 2009, 09:55:04 PM
Credit card standing by.....

Ordered it a few minutes ago.....Can't wait for the first week of June to arrive......  :)
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: pdouble60 on May 20, 2009, 08:13:57 AM
Is there any new info on being able to buy the DVD's?
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on May 20, 2009, 08:23:44 AM
crap  I had better check

what region is the DVD encoded in   ???
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: DonWorsham on May 20, 2009, 08:46:19 AM
Is there any new info on being able to buy the DVD's?

Now Available for Pre-order at the I.C.E. Training Online Store!
http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-35/NOW-available-on-DVD%21%21%21/Detail

Pre-order price for the ENTIRE Season is $29.95. The first batch will ship by June 1st!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: True_Texan on May 20, 2009, 10:09:24 AM
crap  I had better check

what region is the DVD encoded in   ???

I would assume since it was recorded here in the USA, it would be NTSC format and not PAL. If so, just pick up a cross format DVD player. I bought a cheap DVD player a few years ago that will play NTSC, PAL, Xvid, Dvix, VCD, and dang near everything else.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on May 20, 2009, 10:20:52 AM
I would assume since it was recorded here in the USA, it would be NTSC format and not PAL. If so, just pick up a cross format DVD player. I bought a cheap DVD player a few years ago that will play NTSC, PAL, Xvid, Dvix, VCD, and dang near everything else.

NTSC  is cool  the TV and DVD player will work

issue is Aust DVD is region 4  US is 1

just working out if  I will need to get around that  ;)
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on May 21, 2009, 08:51:11 PM
Philw,

I wasn't ignoring you.. just waiting for an official answer. Don't want to put out bad info or guesses at this point.....

-RJP
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on May 21, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
Philw,

I wasn't ignoring you.. just waiting for an official answer. Don't want to put out bad info or guesses at this point.....

-RJP

all good mate   ;D

I won't be able to get my order in for a few months   ( I will though either way  on the encoding )
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on May 26, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
Got confirmation today that there is NO REGIONAL CODING on the DVDs.

-RJP
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on May 27, 2009, 06:43:48 AM
thanks heaps mate


I will get the order in around the end of June   ;D
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on June 07, 2009, 01:22:43 AM
Now Available for Pre-order at the I.C.E. Training Online Store!
http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-35/NOW-available-on-DVD%21%21%21/Detail (http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-35/NOW-available-on-DVD%21%21%21/Detail)

Pre-order price for the ENTIRE Season is $29.95. The first batch will ship by June 1st!


Thanks to all of you who expressed interest and inspired us to get this done!

-RJP

Rob,
Have the DVDs started shipping? If not, do you have an ETA?

-FA
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 07, 2009, 09:11:23 AM
Thanks for the recent orders, guys!

There was a production delay at OC, I am hoping to get an update tomorrow. As of Thursday, the DVDs had not shipped to our distribution facility. We have left the pre-shipping price in place and will continue to do so until the items are in stock. There was no indication that the delay should be very long!

-RJP
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 10, 2009, 02:39:12 PM
We are still in "stand by" mode.. waiting to here from my contact at Outdoor Channel with an update. As of May 11th it was "10 Biz days", so we thought we built in plenty of delay time...  And here we are. Reduced pricing still stands. I'll update by Friday!

-RJP

EDITED TO ADD: Still waiting.....
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 18, 2009, 09:11:22 PM
Great News: I was told today by Outdoor Channel that the DVDs shipped to our distribution center. That means some of you should get your DVDs by the end of next week!

(Finally!).

-RJP
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: cooptire on June 20, 2009, 09:49:42 AM
Not to be premature or anything  ::), but do you plan on offering TBD:S on DVD as well.   ;D

Summer is definitely not the optimum viewing time for me, unfortunately and I am REALLY looking forward to the next iteration of the show!
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Michael Janich on June 23, 2009, 01:01:42 PM
"The Best Defense" Season One is now available as a DVD set from Stay Safe Media!!!

The wait is over--order yours now!!!

http://www.staysafemedia.com/product.php?proid=80


Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: shooter32 on June 23, 2009, 01:05:16 PM
"The Best Defense" Season One is now available as a DVD set from Stay Safe Media!!!

The wait is over--order yours now!!!

http://www.staysafemedia.com/product.php?proid=80


Stay safe,

Mike


YES!!!! ;D
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Pathfinder on June 23, 2009, 07:50:55 PM
Is the DRTV discount still available? In the chaos of being laid off and looking (so far fruitlessly) for a new job, I didn't get the order in.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob Pincus on June 24, 2009, 08:54:10 AM
Path,

The DVD Sets actually started shipping to customers yesterday!  The pre-order price is no longer available... but since you publicly pleaded before I made this announcement, call my office... they're expecting your call and will provide discount.

***

Everyone who ordered should be receiving their sets soon... I got my first copies on Monday!

***


Thanks again to all who pushed to make this happen!

-Rob
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: philw on June 24, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
Cool   :) 


Haven't forgotten   

still planing on getting it     don't worry about that you will be shipping one over to Aust  mate

just will be in a month or so   just waiting for the Tax cheque to come back   :)


Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on June 26, 2009, 07:59:30 PM
Just to report that I received my set today and have watched the first two episodes- I am impressed! I look forward to watching the rest over the next few weeks. Thirty bucks plus shipping was a great investment!

Rob, Mike and Michael:
Please consider doing this for the following seasons of TBD, as they are timeless with the principles taught.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Rob10ring on June 30, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
"The Best Defense" Season One is now available as a DVD set from Stay Safe Media!!!

The wait is over--order yours now!!!

http://www.staysafemedia.com/product.php?proid=80


Stay safe,

Mike

I'm glad that I waited to order Forever Armed, so I could group this with the same shipping. I can't wait to see both. I'm another guy who's cable company doesn't offer Outdoor Channel.
Title: Re: FAQ: Best Defense on DVD or Download?
Post by: Superheat on July 24, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
I'm all for a capitalistic society but $40 plus shipping seems high for 13 x 22min.  But I guess I'll have to spring for it.....