The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: jaybet on January 05, 2009, 08:04:42 PM
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I was at the range during the holidays with my two sons-in-law, one of whom is a conservation officer. After some clay shooting we were popping away with the handguns. I had them both try the MB M&P9 and they both loved it. The LEO was especially interested since his dept was thinking of going to .40 from 9mm Glocks, and I suggested they might think of the M&Ps.
Then my son-in-law let us try is off duty gun, a little bitty Glock 26. I had never tried one before and FIRST TIME I shot as accurately as I had with my M&P. It was amazingly accurate considering the limited grip. Wow. Makes me think that if his dept. switches I might have to try to get the thing off of him.
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I've read of compact Glocks being quite accurate too. I've heard of some other compact guns being even more accurate than full-sized guns. Para is the one I've heard that about the most. It goes against everything we thought we knew about barrel length, huh? If they do sell the baby Glocks save one for me. I need a 9x19 for my collection.
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I have a Glock 30 and it makes make a ragged hole in the middle, no problem
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I have shot qualifiers with both a G26 & G27 and found them very accurate to shoot. I do need the magazine extensions or my draw and grip suffer.
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Yea, now if they would take the D..n finger grooves off them. I shot a first gen. 26 and loved it. Didn't have the $$$ at the time or I might have gotten one.
Richard
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Love my glock 26, carry IWB. It's as accurate as any 4 or 5 inch pistol I own. But I do shoot and carry it with the mag extensions. With them on I can get a full grip on it.
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Cant say enough good things about my 26....
Yea, now if they would take the D..n finger grooves off them.
Richard
They can be ground off..... Belt sander anyone?
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Cant say enough good things about my 26....
They can be ground off..... Belt sander anyone?
Use a soldering iron and burn them off like warts, maybe?
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A Glock that is accurate? Impossible! Everyone knows that only 1911 pistols are accurate! ;)
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Yea, now if they would take the D..n finger grooves off them.
I was just noting how much I like the groove-less grip on my 2nd generation Glock 23. However I am interested in trying out the new 22RTF (rough texture frame). It was just approved for CA and even though I have a 22 already, I might get one. The grooves do seem to be a little more useful on the shorter guns, when you're not using mag extensions.
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One finger groove like on some of the Olympic Arms pistols (formerly made by M-S Safari Arms) would fit practically everyone since there's nothing between the last 2 fingers. I'd love to see a Glock like that. Especially a mid-size 9mm. I'd buy one.
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Yes, I know I can take the FG's off but I compete with what I carry and that would be ATR. The Gen. 4 looks good but seems to still have the FG's. Forgot to mention in this thread that the FG's don't fit my hands or the other way around.
Richard
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My 27 is deadly accurate for a gun that size. I lucked up with the finger grooves, but I hate the arch on the back side of the grip. I CCW with a standard magazine to help with printing, but my back-up mags have the Pearce extension for the one extra round.
I never liked the Glock until I tried the 27. Now I just wish I'd have gotten a G30....the G36 Slimline in .45 acp looks good.
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I'm glad this post is about Glock. We all know how much I love Glock. ::) And I'm glad to see that there are others that like them too. I've found every Glock to be a fine weapon. And so far in my personal testing they are more accurate than M&P's. I've shot many Glocks and several M&P's in head to head competition with the same ammo. The Glocks are more accurate. One of the last times at the range a few others and I all shot three magazines out of the smallest Glock 9mm and the smallest M&P 9mm. Amazingly, all three of us shot more accurate with the Glock. Now as far as likes, one like the Glock best (yours truely ::) ...one liked the M&P (although he agreed it wasn't as accurate) and one liked both about the same. They both are great guns. M&P's are close and are great weapons too. But, they ain't no Glock!
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I'm glad this post is about Glock. We all know how much I love Glock. ::) And I'm glad to see that there are others that like them too. I've found every Glock to be a fine weapon. And so far in my personal testing they are more accurate than M&P's. I've shot many Glocks and several M&P's in head to head competition with the same ammo. The Glocks are more accurate. One of the last times at the range a few others and I all shot three magazines out of the smallest Glock 9mm and the smallest M&P 9mm. Amazingly, all three of us shot more accurate with the Glock. Now as far as likes, one like the Glock best (yours truely ::) ...one liked the M&P (although he agreed it wasn't as accurate) and one liked both about the same. They both are great guns. M&P's are close and are great weapons too. But, they ain't no Glock!
Hawkfish,
Funny it was reversed for me with static slow fire shooting. I shot the M&P 9 full size more accurately than my Glock 19. HOWEVER in shooting any course with movement, either mine or the targets such as an IDPA course, I did much better with the Glock. I assume that is because my trigger reset is much better with either of the Glocks. All the pistols have nightsights so that part is a wash. The M&P was a prize and I thought it might be good house gun but after some shooting the Glock still has the job.
Yes my 1911 is more accurate than the either the Glock or M&P but my wife can't dependably operate it so it's not up for consideration. In fact she prefers the SW642 with CT grips I bought her. It's "cute" in her mind and that must mean something a little more important than stopping power or magazine capacity or rate of fire in her pretty little head.
Ratcatcher55
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Ratcatcher55, That is interesting. I've never seen an M&P out-shoot a Glock yet. Not to say yours won't. I've just not seen it yet. And it's not just my biased opinion that I base my results on ... because I have had other M&P, Sig, and XD fans to shoot along with me and compare too. I like them all. Some do shoot better than others too.. (i.e. one Glock may be little more accurate than another Glock).. but out of a group of eleven people total... gun nuts.. cops.. average joes.. so far, all agree that the Glock was a more accurate weapon. Sounds like you got a good M&P.. and there ain't nothing wrong with that... ;)
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I'm a 1911 man myself and have never shot the M&P or XD but I've shot a couple Glocks and Sigs and while they might not be my first choice it's only because I prefer single action triggers, DA seems long to me but otherwise I would not be able to pick a favorite ,nor would I feel nervous trusting my life to any of them.
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I'm a 1911 man myself and have never shot the M&P or XD but I've shot a couple Glocks and Sigs and while they might not be my first choice it's only because I prefer single action triggers, DA seems long to me but otherwise I would not be able to pick a favorite ,nor would I feel nervous trusting my life to any of them.
Me either.. Although I would prefer the Glock for several reasons, any one of them would work in a pinch. All of them are pretty darn good these days.
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Jumping in...
I was a died in the wool SIG fan, P229 .40 S&W was my daily also had a P220 .45 ACP and a P226 9mm
I did not love or hate GLOCK pistols, I just thought Sig was "it" for me.
I have a friend in Mass. that keeps telling me how his GLOCK 17 is a ball to shoot, over his Sig P226, 3 years ago I ran across a GLOCK 17 2nd Gen New In Box, (Still had the copper grease on rails) for $399, I bought it on a whim.
Took it out and I was able to shoot circles around any of my sigs that I have owned and loved for 6+ years.
Out of the box, the GLOCK just worked better for me. - Didn't really want to believe it, but hey if it works.
So I've ended up trading the P229 towards and AK, the P220 for a GLOCK G26 9mm sub compact and the P226 is about to go away for a G30 .45 ACP or a G29 10mm.
No issues EVER for me with the GLOCKS though my sister in law can limp wrist the 17 - I have no issues, all shoot circles around my Sigs I owned and I do not miss them.
I have looked at the M&P and the XD's and see no need for the extra safety's - in 2007 Rob Latham was here in town and had two XD's fail on him. One with a broken firing pin and another refused to go in to battery after the 4th round fired, evern after a field strip and mag changes.
That turned me off to the XD;s and was slightly embarrassing to Rob. He was there to sell them for Springfield during a try before you buy event.