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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MikeO on July 05, 2007, 08:57:43 PM

Title: M&P45 v HK45 v G21SF
Post by: MikeO on July 05, 2007, 08:57:43 PM
I had a chance to try all three at the DOE/NTC SPOTC 2007.

http://www.spotc.doe.gov/video/

I liked the M&P45 the best of the bunch. Fit my hand best, handled best for me.

The HK45 was nice, but the grip is too long for me. They squeezed the mag to make it narrower, so now the HK45 10 shot mag is taller than a USP 12 shot mag. The HK45c is about the size of the USP45c and held 8 rounds. HKs LEM is OK, but I would prefer either in DA/SA w safety.

I know there is a difference between the G21 and G21SF, but I can't feel it. Still too thick for me. What they shoulda done is sqeeze the G21 mag so it's a thinner 10 shooter instead of a 13 shooter. That would be  better pistol than the G37 GAP.

Liked the M&P in 9/45 better than 40 (I like most guns better in their 9/45 versions than 40). Liked the M&P45 better than the FNP40. They didn't have a FNP45 to shoot, but the grip looks too long for me. Shoulda made it a shorter 10/12 shooter w a mag sleeve for the longer 14 mag if you want more. Kinda like SA did w the XD45 compact frame (another good gun).

Now I have two of my own M&P45s; both black, one w safety and one w/o safety.

Also got to try the HK416 (5.56), HK417 (7.62), and HK MP7 (4.6). All very nice.

Title: Re: M&P45 v HK45 v G21SF
Post by: texcaliber on July 05, 2007, 10:14:26 PM
good video MikeO, look like some poud Americans! Bet they took it to them Brits hard.  :)
Title: Re: M&P45 v HK45 v G21SF
Post by: coltman45 on July 19, 2007, 08:59:20 AM
I have both the M&P45 and the Glock21. Haven't taken the opportunity to shoot either one but so far I like the M&P the best....It fits my had better....I was curious who makes a holster for th M&P45. Have checked several holster manufacturers and nobody makes a holster as of now. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: M&P45 v HK45 v G21SF
Post by: DonWorsham on July 19, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
DOE/NTC SPOTC 2007.

http://www.spotc.doe.gov/video/


Great video. I envy their youth and conditioning. To quote Peter Sellars in The Wrong Box, I've not always been like you see me now.
Title: Re: M&P45 v HK45 v G21SF
Post by: MikeO on July 19, 2007, 10:25:03 AM
The M&P45 fits the Blackhawk CQC holster like it was made for it. Fits well enough in the Fobus for the G21 too.

The new Fobus Evolution series will have a specific model for the M&P.